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Re: [DeTomaso] Trouble logging into POCA June 29, 2016
by Mike Reilly 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

I had issues with my membership renewal going through and contacted Michael Shortt. He quickly responded and helped me out. If you still have problems accessing it I would contact him if you can’t figure it out or get help elsewhere. I found him very helpful and responsive. Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Asa Jay Laughton<mailto:asajay@asajay.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:14 AM To: Himes, Terry (397C)<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trouble logging into POCA June 29, 2016 Hi Terry, No, they didn't. They created new accounts for all active POCA members or those expiring shortly. Each member should have received an email with their username and password. Once logged in a person could change their username and password. If you are a POCA member and didn't receive an email, you should contact the club and ask for it. If you weren't or aren't a POCA member, then the new website doesn't have a login for you ad all "logged in content" is for POCA members only. Asa Jay Quoting "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov>: > I've never been able to login! Did they bring over all users & > passwords from the old POCA site? > > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Dawn Spacecraft Team > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > Fax: (818) 393-3147 > thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> > 🇺🇸 > > From: DeTomaso > <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton > <asajay(a)asajay.com<mailto:asajay@asajay.com>> > Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:56 AM > To: > "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Trouble logging into POCA June 29, 2016 > > Is anyone else having trouble logging in to the POCA web site this > morning? > Asa Jay > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired > & Shelley Marie > Spokane, WA > ****************************** > [1]http://w7tsc.org > [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com > > References > > 1. http://w7tsc.org/ > 2. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ -- Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home ****************************************************** http://www.w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I had issues with my membership renewal going through and contacted Michael Shortt. He quickly responded and helped me out. If you still have problems accessing it I would contact him if you can't figure it out or get help elsewhere. I found him very helpful and responsive. Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 From: [2]Asa Jay Laughton Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:14 AM To: [3]Himes, Terry (397C) Cc: [4]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Trouble logging into POCA June 29, 2016 Hi Terry, No, they didn't. They created new accounts for all active POCA members or those expiring shortly. Each member should have received an email with their username and password. Once logged in a person could change their username and password. If you are a POCA member and didn't receive an email, you should contact the club and ask for it. If you weren't or aren't a POCA member, then the new website doesn't have a login for you ad all "logged in content" is for POCA members only. Asa Jay Quoting "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes(a)jpl.nasa.gov>: > I've never been able to login! Did they bring over all users & > passwords from the old POCA site? > > > "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, > stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" > > Terry W. Himes > JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory > Dawn Spacecraft Team > Rosetta Sequence Team Lead > Phone: (818) 393-6261 > Cell: (818) 653-8213 > Fax: (818) 393-3147 > thimes(a)jpl.nasa.gov<[5]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> > > > From: DeTomaso > <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@serve r.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Asa Jay Laughton > <asajay(a)asajay.com<mailto:asajay@asajay.com>> > Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:56 AM > To: > "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.c om>" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.c om>> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Trouble logging into POCA June 29, 2016 > > Is anyone else having trouble logging in to the POCA web site this > morning? > Asa Jay > Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired > & Shelley Marie > Spokane, WA > ****************************** > [1]http://w7tsc.org > [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com > > References > > 1. [6]http://w7tsc.org/ > 2. [7]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ -- Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home ****************************************************** [8]http://www.w7tsc.org [9]http://www.teampanteraracing.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [10]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 2. mailto:asajay@asajay.com 3. mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. http://w7tsc.org/ 7. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 8. http://www.w7tsc.org/ 9. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/ 10. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Video of Supercar event in Spain
by Charles McCall 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Since the list is pretty quiet of Pantera content. here's an 8-minute video of the Supercar event we attended a few weeks ago in Northern Spain <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy6dSwncKyI> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy6dSwncKyI Some pretty impressive hardware, and a moderate number of cars from England. The speaking part only lasts a minute or so. This was the warm-up to the trip to Le Mans classic and the associated tour - we leave in 4 days, not like we're counting the seconds or anything. Since the list is pretty quiet of Pantera content... here's an 8-minute video of the Supercar event we attended a few weeks ago in Northern Spain [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy6dSwncKyI Some pretty impressive hardware, and a moderate number of cars from England. The speaking part only lasts a minute or so... This was the warm-up to the trip to Le Mans classic and the associated tour - we leave in 4 days, not like we're counting the seconds or anything... References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy6dSwncKyI

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Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by Garth Rodericks 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Hey Dennis, Change out those stock brake pads for a set of Porterfield 4RS pads! It's a huge brake upgrade that will greatly improve your car's braking performance. Do it now before you have an accident! Those original pads are crappy and will wear out your rotors before they wear out themselves. I pulled mine off at 90,000 miles and they still looked like brand new pads, but the Porterfields gave me substantially better brake performance! Cheers!Garth --- Original Message ---So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? Hey Dennis, Change out those stock brake pads for a set of Porterfield 4RS pads! It's a huge brake upgrade that will greatly improve your car's braking performance. Do it now before you have an accident! Those original pads are crappy and will wear out your rotors before they wear out themselves. I pulled mine off at 90,000 miles and they still looked like brand new pads, but the Porterfields gave me substantially better brake performance! Cheers! Garth --- Original Message --- So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the c alipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. Bleed the system wi th new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on . I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding proce ss but that did not happen. I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from lo oking at them last year. The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around cause d a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lin es. I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas?

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Status of the list
by Kurt Byrnes 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Somehow this thread has been resurrected. Just to be clear, I have had NO threats for a while now. From my research, the list is covered under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. The section basically says that online intermediaries that host or republish speech are protected against being held legally responsible for what others say or do, within reason. Also, as soon as you submit something to the public (in this case, the list), you can't claim copyright and insist removal. You knowingly posted it to the public. So, can we PLEASE put the issue to sleep. If anything further develops, I'll be sure to let everyone know. Please resume normal DeTomaso talk. Thank you, Kurt

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Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by Dennis Valdez 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Thanks Mike, So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? Thanks, Dennis > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Dennis, > > You got it exactly right! Those two lights cover those three functions. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the >> Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as >> it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs >> are suspect. >> The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general >> hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a >> brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these? >> <FullSizeRender.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] IMPEACH
by gonancy＠juno.com 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Personally I'm sick of reading and hearing ( my husband is Jack DeRyke's son, so I hear A LOT ) about Shortt. POCA use to be a pleasant, friendly club. Tired of this regime, I wish for the old days, GoNancy ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216

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Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

In a message dated 6/28/16 7:49:15 PM, sjcarguy60(a)yahoo.com writes: > So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses > to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. > >>>Good! > >Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the > pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might > come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. > >>>Be grateful for that at least! > > >I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new > from looking at them last year. > >>>Stock pads suck. While you were in there it would have been very beneficial to replace them with Porterfield pads. > >The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines > >>>Most people just tuck them out of the way and tie them to the other harness wires... > > and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them > around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new > metallic brake lines. > >>>It only takes one. There are two white/black wires which come from the warning light and go to the sensors on the pads. If the pad wears enough for the sensor to contact the surface of the disc, it completes the ground and illuminates the light. Sounds like perhaps one of your wires is now in close proximity to a metal (as opposed to the old rubber) hose and that is making the electrical connection. I would suggest removing the wires from the flex hoses, taping the ends with electrical tape, and then tucking them away and securing them to some other wires. (Alternately, if you really have stock pads that still have the tabs, you could always just plug the wires back into the pads!) > > >I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit > and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? > >>>Just isolate them better and you should be fine..... Cheers! Mike P.S. Do you have Bill Taylor's fantastic electrical diagrams? They are available for download from www.panteraplace.com. I will send you the relevant diagram separately.... In a message dated 6/28/16 7:49:15 PM, sjcarguy60(a)yahoo.com writes: So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. >>>Good! >Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. >>>Be grateful for that at least! >I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. >>>Stock pads suck. While you were in there it would have been very beneficial to replace them with Porterfield pads. >The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines >>>Most people just tuck them out of the way and tie them to the other harness wires... > and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. >>>It only takes one. There are two white/black wires which come from the warning light and go to the sensors on the pads. If the pad wears enough for the sensor to contact the surface of the disc, it completes the ground and illuminates the light. Sounds like perhaps one of your wires is now in close proximity to a metal (as opposed to the old rubber) hose and that is making the electrical connection. I would suggest removing the wires from the flex hoses, taping the ends with electrical tape, and then tucking them away and securing them to some other wires. (Alternately, if you really have stock pads that still have the tabs, you could always just plug the wires back into the pads!) >I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? >>>Just isolate them better and you should be fine..... Cheers! Mike P.S. Do you have Bill Taylor's fantastic electrical diagrams? They are available for download from www.panteraplace.com. I will send you the relevant diagram separately....

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Dash warning lights on single pod L models
by Dennis Valdez 29 Jun '16

29 Jun '16

Hi Folks, Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs are suspect. The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these? Hi Folks, Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs are suspect. The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these?

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Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Impeach
by marshall smith 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

Yes it is John. We are better than this, believe me. Marshall Smith President, San Diego Panteras -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 6/28/16, John Bennett <jbennett111(a)zoho.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Impeach To: "gonancy" <gonancy(a)juno.com> Cc: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 1:10 PM This is highly unprofessional. Sent using [1]Zoho Mail ---- On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:37:41 -0700 <gonancy(a)juno.com>wrote ---- IMPEACH SHORTTY! RECLAIM POCA, or whatever you want to call it now. I don't know who voted for this guy, but you should be ASHAMED! I WILL BE THE NEW EMPRESS OF THE NEW AND IMPROVED De TOMASO REGIME! ALL HAIL EMPRESS GoNANCY! ( I can't be any worse, can I? Besides, I'm holding the OLD Profiles editor hostage) Is Shortt gonna sue me now? ____________________________________________________________ Fivebreak.com 40 Years of the Same Photo Together, But The Last One is Incredible [2]http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5771e334d859863346a63st02vu c _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://www.zoho.com/mail/ 2. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5771e334d859863346a63st02vuc 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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VIN 6704 For Sale At Park Place, Bellevue, WA / $135K / Not in the Registry
by Mike Thomas 28 Jun '16

28 Jun '16

The ad for 6704 at Park Place Motors, Bellevue, WA is at the link. It is not currently shown in Chuck's registry when I search L models by VIN, nor is it on the PNW roster. Sweet, but expensive. Gooned it up with the Nox bottles IMHO. http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/995/874TH PNND06704 Does anybody know the car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow '74 #6328 The ad for 6704 at Park Place Motors, Bellevue, WA is at the link. It is not currently shown in Chuck's registry when I search L models by VIN, nor is it on the PNW roster. Sweet, but expensive. Gooned it up with the Nox bottles IMHO. [1]http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/9 95/874THPNND06704 Does anybody know the car? Mike Thomas Pres., Panteras Northwest Yellow '74 #6328 References 1. http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/1974-DeTomaso-Pantera/995/874T…

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