June 2016 - DeTomaso - detomasolist.com

Thank you
by Joel Montero 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

I'm not sure who is responsible for recreating this Pantera List Serve, but whoever you are, THANK YOU! Joel I'm not sure who is responsible for recreating this Pantera List Serve, but whoever you are, THANK YOU!A Joel

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Re: [DeTomaso] Feel the pain
by thells 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

That car has been listed on Craigslist in LA with no price for some time now, unfortunately no VIN either: https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5596473017.html Dan -----Original Message----- >From: Emiliano Ballejos >Sent: Jun 2, 2016 12:54 PM >To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Feel the pain > >Sorry, I didn't think to get the VIN, was years before I thought it mattered. > >Plus my eyes were hurting pretty bad from looking at it! > > > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:46 AM, The DeTomaso Registry Guy wrote: >> >> >> >> Sad. >> >> >> Does anyone know the VIN? >> >> Or I will store the data in the registry under an unknown. >> >> Chuck >> >> >> Was it stored in a full compose bin? >> How can people do this to a car??? >> Ken >> >> >> >> I lived in Santa Barbara in the late 80s and early 90s and still go back regularly to visit friends and family. >> >> I've seen this car in person and it is much, much, much worse than it even appears in those photos. >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Clutch Pedal Reduction Kit with Diaphragm Pressure Plate?
by B. SEIB 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

Ken I have a Centerforce Pantera diaphragm clutch. I have the effort reduction kit and the Long throw slave in stainless steel. The pedal effort is still pretty fierce. I would say maybe 40-50 lbs to depress. I'm thinking of going back to the stock slave cylinder which will reduce pedal effort at the expense of less friction plate clearance when depressed. I seem to have an abundance of that. Barry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- Given the mechanical characteristics of a diaphragm pressure plate, does it make any sense to use a clutch pedal kit with one? My recollection is that the clutch pedal kit provides more leverage when the pedal is fully depressed, but a diaphragm pressure plate does that anyway? Ken

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Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch Pedal Reduction Kit with Diaphragm Pressure Plate?
by thells 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

A couple of years ago I replaced a 3 finger 'HAYS' type clutch in my '72 with a McLeod diaphragm type pressure plate and disk along with a new throwout bearing all from Steve Wilkinson. At the same time I also added an effort reduction kit from Bob Byars, this one has roller bearings and is a nice improvement from the stock one which uses bare metal as the bushing surface. The old clutch took a significant effort to use, I'd guess the force was somewhere in the 50 - 60 lb range. Not much fun in SoCal traffic. With the new diaphragm clutch and the kit I can now push the clutch pedal to the floor with my hand. I'd estimate the force required to be around 15 lbs, it's as light as a Honda clutch. I can't speak to any other brands but the McLeod diaphragm clutch from Wilkinson and the Byars effort reduction kit provided a significant improvement over the old 3 finger clutch in my car. Dan -----Original Message----- >From: Dave >Sent: Jun 2, 2016 10:15 AM >To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Clutch Pedal Reduction Kit with Diaphragm Pressure Plate? > > I can give you a measured result Ken. > > With no kit and a dual surface Centerforce: > > - I don't notice it when road driving > - about 20 mins of rush-hour bump&go is OK. > beyond that I have to spend as much time in neutral as I can manage. > > Dave > > > On 6/1/2016 8:50 PM, Ken Green via DeTomaso wrote: > > Given the mechanical characteristics of a diaphragm pressure plate, > does it make any sense to use a clutch pedal kit with one? My > recollection is that the clutch pedal kit provides more leverage when > the pedal is fully depressed, but a diaphragm pressure plate does that > anyway? > Ken > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >[1]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >[2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the li >nks above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message p >osted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant >the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of lis >t messages. > >References > > 1. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Clutch Pedal Reduction Kit with Diaphragm Pressure Plate?
by Ken Green 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

Given the mechanical characteristics of a diaphragm pressure plate, does it make any sense to use a clutch pedal kit with one? My recollection is that the clutch pedal kit provides more leverage when the pedal is fully depressed, but a diaphragm pressure plate does that anyway? Ken Given the mechanical characteristics of a diaphragm pressure plate, does it make any sense to use a clutch pedal kit with one? My recollection is that the clutch pedal kit provides more leverage when the pedal is fully depressed, but a diaphragm pressure plate does that anyway? Ken

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Re: [DeTomaso] Paris Ban Cars before 1997 from the streets
by cengles＠cox.net 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

Dear Jim, Well, as best as I can understand it, the French government knows that the recent deadly floods are part of global warming. It is accepted science that all pre 1997 cars (as well as people) are the root cause of global warming. Ipso facto: ban the cars; stop global warming and save France as well as the world. This is a logical approach as any for the current socialist French administration................... Ah, the French. Apolitical blues, Chuck Engles On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Jim Wallace via DeTomaso wrote: > Paris bans pre-1997 cars from its streets during the week > | | | | | | > > | > > | > | | | Paris bans pre-1997 cars from its streets during the week > Passenger cars built before 1997 and bikes older than 2000 are > weekend-only now. | | > > | > > | > > > WTF......jim > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera Alignment Rear
by Tomas Gunnarsson 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

Do you mean camber? Caster is not adjustable and matters little on a non-steering axle. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Ed Mendez [edducati(a)mac.com] Sent: 2/6/2016 10:02:48 AM To: DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Alignment Rear Setting Caster on a Pantera. Should there be positive or negative Caster in the rear up right? Do you mean camber? Caster is not adjustable and matters little on a non-steering axle. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Ed Mendez [edducati(a)mac.com] Sent: 2/6/2016 10:02:48 AM To: DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera Alignment Rear Setting Caster on a Pantera. Should there be positive or negative Caster in the rear up right?

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Pantera Alignment Rear
by Ed Mendez 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

Setting Caster on a Pantera. Should there be positive or negative Caster in the rear up right?

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Need Pantera Books
by Fred 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

I have a few of the tech books on Pantera, but not all. If anyone has a list of all the tech and parts books, please email me with a list or direcrt me to a dealer who handles them. I DO have the 14 Factory updates, the notes of a member who lists many "fixes", and the larger Tech Info in the 3 ring binder. I'm not looking for coffee table books. As usual, thanks for all past help from incredibly knowledgeable members. Also, let's do everything possible to keep this club vibrant. Virtually all the clubs I belong to in different fields have their intrigue and problems due to difference of opinions. We are better than that. Work out differences one-on-one. Hopefully, there is common ground.

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A pair of 10 in, 2 1/2 ID 550 pound springs for sale, $30 + shipping
by Ken Green 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

If anyone wants these email me. The measure 10 inches so no apparent "sagging". Pretty rough blue paint, need repainting. They were on a pair of shocks I bought and I wanted different rate springs. I had the rate measured when the shocks were rebuilt. Ken If anyone wants these email me. The measure 10 inches so no apparent "sagging". Pretty rough blue paint, need repainting. They were on a pair of shocks I bought and I wanted different rate springs. I had the rate measured when the shocks were rebuilt. Ken

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