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Hooking an MSD 6AL Rev Limiter to disengage the A/C Compressor
by Rob Dumoulin 10 Jun '16

10 Jun '16

It appears engine revs killed my Sanden rotary compressor. That or it was a cheaper build. Regardless, my new motor will rev even higher and this time I am installing a high-pressure shut-off valve. In addition, I'd like to use the rev limiter feature of the 6AL to shut off the compressor so I won't kill another one. I have heard of such a mod but have not seen technically how to make it work. Anybody know what MSD parts are needed and how to hook it up to the A/C? Rob It appears engine revs killed my Sanden rotary compressor.A That or it was a cheaper build.A Regardless, my new motor will rev even higher and this time I am installing a high-pressure shut-off valve.A In addition, I'd like to use the rev limiter feature of the 6AL to shut off the compressor so I won't kill another one. I have heard of such a mod but have not seen technically how to make it work.A Anybody know what MSD parts are needed and how to hook it up to the A/C? RobA

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Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
by cengles＠cox.net 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Dear Stephen, A philosophical response to the question: "....what POCA does for me.." What the new POCA does for you is to give you more value for your membership and a better membership experience. What the old POCA did with volunteers and enthusiasts in the days before the internet, was to provide a nationwide organization that aided and abetted information and experience about the difficulties and joys of owning a Pantera. The bright eyed amateurs would type out newsletters and mail them. The newsletters and the Profiles improved with time, but they both provided a framework for Pantera owners across the nation to benefit from their fellow members. Outside of southern California, it was the only therapy for being the "Lone Ranger" in Enid, Oklahoma, for example. With the incorporation of the Vegas Rally, a national meeting provided the faces to connect with the names and the opportunity to socialize and build relationships. Finally, the old Forum extended that to the internet with the results that we all are familiar with. Currently, the new POCA offers all the high tech satisfaction of digital cable attainment of various and sundry benefits. Historically, the old POCA was the foundation of the relationships and friendships and Pantera ownership that we have today. Philosophically yours, Chuck Engles On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Stephen wrote: > I believe that Thomas gets to the heart of the issue with the current > POCA > leader. There have been a number of times that MS has responded to > posts I > put out on there on the previous forum in a way that made me wonder > why I > bothered to post at all. It took me a while to distinguish between > the > several Mikes that posted on the previous forum - it was the short one > that > I figured out first - and I quit reading his responses. Especially > when I > realized that he really doesn't know it all, and that his technical > guidance > was flawed as often as it was correct. > > I know that the short is doing his best to put together his idea of a > better > POCA site. And I know it will offer a lot. No doubt. NTL, his > amazing > ability to piss folks off with his truly marginal interpersonal skills > is > well known, and totally inappropriate for a person in his position. > POCA is not this forum - and, well, vice versa. 3 years ago, when my > wife > and I bought 5332, I likely would have put up with the shorts crap to > get > what we needed - as I did in the past. Today - well, 5332 is a dream > to > drive, and I have this forum. Tell me again what POCA does for me - > other > than to remind me that some folk make terrible leaders? > > Stephen Nelson > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf > Of Thomas Törnblom > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 1:36 AM > To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA > > 1) You can't do much about family, love it or hate it. > > 2) If you have an issue with a colleague, step away, if it is with > management, get a new job > > 3) If you have an issue with the current leadership in a club you pay > to be > part of, then quitting, even temporarily, would at least send a fairly > strong message that something is wrong, or else the club may not be > for you > anymore. > > As I've said before, I will likely not renew my POCA membership when > it is > due, and if I were ten years younger I would also get a new job. > > Life's too short to having to deal with a*holes. > > Thomas > > Den 2016-06-08 kl. 08:48, skrev Ed Mendez: >> Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who love >> you. > We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't agree > with? > Quit because of a family member you don't get along with? If we all > did that > none of us would be working in our day jobs, or have a family at all. >> >> I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother and >> that > would really piss off my mom. >> >> Just saying. >> >> Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen for >> a > while, there's a whole big world out there. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus >> >>> On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve(a)snclocks.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of >>> your POCA membership - right now the leadership is proving to be >>> just plain polarizing. Just don't let go of this forum! And, one >>> day, when hoof in mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin. >>> >>> Stephen Nelson >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >>> Behalf Of gonancy(a)juno.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM >>> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA >>> >>> Dear Forum, >>> Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and >>> spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put it >>> out to the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney >>> know that I am ending my membership in POCA effective immediately. >>> That means my associate member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving >>> also. Mike has the June issue at the printer's right now. It will be >>> his > last issue. >>> As an aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA >>> website, even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate >>> member, > not a "true " >>> member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it. How >>> do you like that? Makes him sound like a second class citizen. >>> >>> It's been a great 25 years, >>> GoNancy Haney >>> >>> P.S. I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was all >>> I could do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I >>> could not believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a >>> real > piece of work. >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Nextiva vFAX >>> Why Do You Still Have An Old Fax Machine? >>> >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5757934166446134075b2st03vuc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of >>> the > list. >>> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >>> approve the archiving of list messages. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use > the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve > the archiving of list messages. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not >>> exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list >>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>> >>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>> etc.) use > the links above. >>> >>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward >>> any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or > approve > the archiving of list messages. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Re: [DeTomaso] New POCA video
by Asa Jay Laughton 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Here is one we put together for Team Pantera Racing a few years ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3MGZFYjz8 Asa Jay Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net> wrote: >Never was a motorhead fan because of the raspy voice. Now, 'Fuel' by >Metalica or select instrumentals by Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, or Andy >Timmons, that will get your blood going. > >Nice production on both videos. I like the image portrayed! > >Rob > >On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > >> Why? If it's the music yes a little too mellow for me, I would have put >> in some Motoerhead. >> >> >> >> Like this video I did for the San Diego Fun Rally - Go rock or go home. >> :) >> >> [1]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus >> >> On 10/06/2016, at 08:16, [2]audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: >> >> Yikes! My head hurts. >> Whoever made that might want to consider switching to decaf. >> Sent using Hushmail >> On June 8, 2016 at 3:11 PM, "Ed Mendez" <[3]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: >> [1][4]https://vimeo.com/169922457 >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus >> References >> 1. [5]https://vimeo.com/169922457 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> [6]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use the links above. >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the >> list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >> or approve the archiving of list messages. >> >> References >> >> 1. https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg >> 2. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com >> 3. mailto:edducati@mac.com >> 4. https://vimeo.com/169922457 >> 5. https://vimeo.com/169922457 >> 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com >> 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >> the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> > > Never was a motorhead fan because of the raspy voice. A Now, 'Fuel' by > Metalica or select instrumentals by Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, or Andy > Timmons, that will get your blood going. > Nice production on both videos. I like the image portrayed! > Rob > On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > > A A Why? If it's the music yes a little too mellow for me, I would > have put > A A in some Motoerhead. > A A Like this video I did for the San Diego Fun Rally - Go rock or > go home. > A A :) > A A [1][2]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > A A On 10/06/2016, at 08:16, [2][3]audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: > A A A Yikes!A My head hurts. > A A A Whoever made that might want to consider switching to decaf. > A A A Sent using Hushmail > A A A On June 8, 2016 at 3:11 PM, "Ed Mendez" > <[3][4]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > A A A A [1][4][5]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > A A A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > A A References > A A A 1. [5][6]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > A A _______________________________________________ > A A Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > A A DeTomaso mailing list > A A [6][7]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > A A [7][8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) > A A use the links above. > A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to > forward any > A A message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > the > A A list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > archive > A A or approve the archiving of list messages. > References > A A 1. [9]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > A A 2. mailto:[10]audionut@hushmail.com > A A 3. mailto:[11]edducati@mac.com > A A 4. [12]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > A A 5. [13]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > A A 6. mailto:[14]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > A A 7. [15]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [16]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > etc.) use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of > the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > archive or approve the archiving of list messages. > >References > > 1. mailto:edducati@mac.com > 2. https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > 3. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com > 4. mailto:edducati@mac.com > 5. https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 6. https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 7. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > 9. https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > 10. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com > 11. mailto:edducati@mac.com > 12. https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 13. https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 14. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > 16. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 17. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >_______________________________________________ > > >Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > >Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Here is one we put together for Team Pantera Racing a few years ago: [1]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3MGZFYjz8 Asa Jay Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Rob Dumoulin <rob(a)dumoulins.net> wrote: Never was a motorhead fan because of the raspy voice. Now, 'Fuel' by Metalica or select instrumentals by Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, or Andy Timmons, that will get your blood going. Nice production on both videos. I like the image portrayed! Rob On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Ed Mendez <edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > Why? If it's the music yes a little too mellow for me, I would have put > in some Motoerhead. > > > > Like this video I did for the San Diego Fun Rally - Go rock or go home. > :) > > [1]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > > On 10/06/2016, at 08:16, [2]audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: > > Yikes! My head hurts. > Whoever made that might want to consider switching to decaf. > Sent using Hushmail > On June 8, 2016 at 3:11 PM, "Ed Mendez" <[3]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > [1][4]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > References > 1. [5]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [6]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > 2. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com > 3. mailto:edducati@mac.com > 4. https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 5. https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > Never was a motorhead fan because of the raspy voice. A Now, 'Fuel' by Metalica or select instrumentals by Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, or Andy Timmons, that will get your blood going. Nice production on both videos. I like the image portrayed! Rob On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: A A Why? If it's the music yes a little too mellow for me, I would have put A A in some Motoerhead. A A Like this video I did for the San Diego Fun Rally - Go rock or go home. A A :) A A [1][2]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus A A On 10/06/2016, at 08:16, [2][3]audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: A A A Yikes!A My head hurts. A A A Whoever made that might want to consider switching to decaf. A A A Sent using Hushmail A A A On June 8, 2016 at 3:11 PM, "Ed Mendez" <[3][4]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: A A A A [1][4][5]https://vimeo.com/169922457 A A A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus A A References A A A 1. [5][6]https://vimeo.com/169922457 A A _______________________________________________ A A Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes A A DeTomaso mailing list A A [6][7]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com A A [7][8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) A A use the links above. A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any A A message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the A A list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive A A or approve the archiving of list messages. References A A 1. [9]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg A A 2. mailto:[10]audionut@hushmail.com A A 3. mailto:[11]edducati@mac.com A A 4. [12]https://vimeo.com/169922457 A A 5. [13]https://vimeo.com/169922457 A A 6. mailto:[14]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A 7. 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3MGZFYjz8

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Fwd: Re: NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage
by Dave 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Kurt - I watched that video and thought "damn that was fun". Then about 2 hours later I thought "damn that was fast". Then I remembered hearing a bunch of compression and what sounded like 7000 rpm. dave On 6/9/2016 1:15 PM, Kurt Byrnes wrote: > Thanks Charles. Love your TD. Mine was red for a long time as well. > They are really quite basic but great fun to drive. > > Larry, I will most certainly be racing at Pittsburgh. It is the > highlight of my summer. Hope you can make it. > > It is a fantastic car to race. Even if you go beyond it's limits, it > almost never goes terribly wrong. > > So here's what's been done: > Modern billet crank, rods and pistons. Compression ratio is about > 10.5:1. I run a full race cam, light weight lifters and valve springs > out of England. Although lots of guys run an aluminum "Laystall" > head, I still have a ported and shaved cast iron head. Carbs are TF 1 > 1/2" vs stock 1 1/4". Stock red line was 5200, I try to shift around > 6500 now. I run an external, belt driven single stage wet sump oil > pump and the oil pan has been baffled. The stock oil pumps fail at > higher rpms. It's quite loud, open exhaust through a stainless > header. Stock, they made 56bhp. I'm probably making 120-130bhp now. > > I added a big MGB swaybar in the front as well as shorter, stiffer > front springs and some shims under the a-arms to correct steering > geometry. In the back I have 1" lowering blocks and MG-TF leaf > springs which drop it another 1/2" or so. I have 5.11 and 4.83 rear > ends for short or long tracks. > > I always thought the brakes were pretty good. I raced for years on > stock shoes but switched to Porterfield linings last year. The > biggest difference I see is significantly less brake dust. I've > always been able to lock the brakes. > > I'm one of the last guys to still run full fenders instead of the > cycle fenders. There's definitely weight and aerodynamics > disadvantages but I like the way it looks. I can't get the top speed > some of the other guys get but I know I've gotten close to 120MPH in a > car made with wood. > > Here's a lap and spin at PVGP from 2014. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDSHmbGokoE > > Kurt > > On 6/9/2016 2:58 PM, Charles McCall wrote: >> The NPC may get more NPC.... >> >> Kurt, I've spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of my folks' '52 >> MG-TD and I have to say that I am amazed at your video. >> >> I find it my parents' car a fascinating and fun car to drive - >> everything is >> so mechanical and manual... makes all kind of nice noises and lots of >> sensations. >> >> That being said, I have commented to my wife on several occasions that I >> find it amazing that this car was used as a RACE car. I have been >> out-accelerated by local kids on their bicycles, and I begin planning >> several hours in advance before braking to make sure that I can brake on >> time. Fun? Definitely. Fast? Well... >> >> So I was blown away by your video. How much of that car is stock? It >> sure >> doesn't sound like my parents' car, and it looks like your brakes >> actually >> work. Acceleration looks more than respectable. >> >> Is this like the difference between a bone-stock '72 on Arriva tires >> and a >> GT4 Le Mans racer? Is your '51 heavily heavily modified, or is it just >> well-tuned? >> >> Curious because there is a world of difference between the two nominally >> similar cars... >> >> Thanks! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Kurt Byrnes >> Sent: miércoles, 8 de junio de 2016 20:07 >> To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage >> >> Thanks everyone. I'm driving my 1951 MG TD. This was the second >> feature race for our group. The first race was won by an Elva Mk II. I >> took second place. They handicapped the Elva back to fourth place so I >> was on the pole for the second race. Everyone, including me, expected >> him to overtake me in the first lap so I had made plans to swap >> positions a few times with a friend as long as we held the Elva off. >> Put on a show and all that. The Elva passed him almost immediately so I >> was just trying to stay in front. Fortunately for me, every time he >> would get close to me, we would be lapping traffic and I was able to >> pass at full throttle and he would have to wait to get through a corner. >> >> Larry, I'll be at the event again this year so come on out. >> >> Another event any east coast folks should really consider is the >> Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix at Schenley Park. In addition to being >> the only U.S. vintage race held on city streets, there is a HUGE car >> show all around the race course. This year's marque for the Italian >> section is DeTomaso! See http://www.pvgp.org/ >> >> Kurt >> >> On 6/8/2016 12:30 AM, Mike Drew wrote: >>> Kurt, >>> >>> Looks to me like there was a race and somebody forgot to tell everyone >> else they were in it!!! >>> Well done! >>> >>> What is it you're driving? Looks like a Morgan maybe? >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Here's a few bits of a race I did last summer at Put-In-Bay Ohio. >>>> Back >> in the 50's, there were road races on the island. A few years ago, some >> friends wanted to honor the old races and restart racing on the island. >> Put-In-Bay Road Race Reunion was born. There are round table >> discussions >> with old racers who raced back in the day, a re-enactment of the old >> course, >> rocker cover races, etc. The website is http://pibroadrace.com/ >>>> >>>> The races are now run at the airport. For two days, they close it >>>> down >> in the morning, build the course with hay bales, we race, and they >> tear it >> all back down so planes can land by evening. >>>> >>>> They have an exhibition class that may let Pantera's in so if you're >> looking for something to do in late August, come on out. Races are held >> during the week since PIB is supposed to be the adult version of spring >> break every weekend in the summer. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerjbkhmBCU >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >>>> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>> DeTomaso mailing list >>>> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >>>> etc.) use >> the links above. >>>> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve >> the archiving of list messages. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) >> use >> the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any >> message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. >> They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or >> approve >> the archiving of list messages. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. 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Re: [DeTomaso] New POCA video
by scott＠scottmeadphotography.com 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Cake's "The Distance" would also be apropos... It's the first track I play before attacking the road to Haleakala. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New POCA video From: Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob(a)dumoulins.net> Date: Thu, June 09, 2016 11:20 am To: Ed Mendez <[2]edducati(a)mac.com> Cc: [3]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Never was a motorhead fan because of the raspy voice. Now, 'Fuel' by Metalica or select instrumentals by Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, or Andy Timmons, that will get your blood going. Nice production on both videos. I like the image portrayed! Rob On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Ed Mendez <[4]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > Why? If it's the music yes a little too mellow for me, I would have put > in some Motoerhead. > > > > Like this video I did for the San Diego Fun Rally - Go rock or go home. > :) > > [1][5]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > > On 10/06/2016, at 08:16, [2][6]audionut(a)hushmail.com wrote: > > Yikes! My head hurts. > Whoever made that might want to consider switching to decaf. > Sent using Hushmail > On June 8, 2016 at 3:11 PM, "Ed Mendez" <[3][7]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: > [1][4][8]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > References > 1. [5][9]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > > _______________________________________________ > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [6][10]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [7][11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > References > > 1. [12]https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg > 2. [13]mailto:audionut@hushmail.com > 3. [14]mailto:edducati@mac.com > 4. [15]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 5. [16]https://vimeo.com/169922457 > 6. [17]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > 7. [18]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [19]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [20]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use > the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. > They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve > the archiving of list messages. > __________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [21]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [22]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:rob@dumoulins.net 2. mailto:edducati@mac.com 3. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:edducati@mac.com 5. https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg 6. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com 7. mailto:edducati@mac.com 8. https://vimeo.com/169922457 9. https://vimeo.com/169922457 10. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 12. https://youtu.be/4JqVHtmTrAg 13. mailto:audionut@hushmail.com 14. mailto:edducati@mac.com 15. https://vimeo.com/169922457 16. https://vimeo.com/169922457 17. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 19. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 20. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 21. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 22. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (ma...
by P6746＠aol.com 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com writes: Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <rgg(a)gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com>; "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fórum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <rgg(a)gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com>; "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com writes: Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <rgg(a)gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com>; "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail forum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <rgg(a)gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall(a)gmail.com>; "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage
by Kurt Byrnes 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Here's a few bits of a race I did last summer at Put-In-Bay Ohio. Back in the 50's, there were road races on the island. A few years ago, some friends wanted to honor the old races and restart racing on the island. Put-In-Bay Road Race Reunion was born. There are round table discussions with old racers who raced back in the day, a re-enactment of the old course, rocker cover races, etc. The website is http://pibroadrace.com/ The races are now run at the airport. For two days, they close it down in the morning, build the course with hay bales, we race, and they tear it all back down so planes can land by evening. They have an exhibition class that may let Pantera's in so if you're looking for something to do in late August, come on out. Races are held during the week since PIB is supposed to be the adult version of spring break every weekend in the summer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JerjbkhmBCU

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Re: [DeTomaso] New POCA video
by grayjim＠cox.net 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

Nice video. Nice cars selected. Enjoyed it Jim Gray On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Ed Mendez wrote: > https://vimeo.com/169922457 > > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages.

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Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago)
by Charles McCall 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fórum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... A At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to FranceA for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) A While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. A Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!)A but had gotten to know thanksA to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quiteA helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. A People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest MajorsA - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. A I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! A

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Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 9
by Owen Cooke 09 Jun '16

09 Jun '16

If you cannot get a brake pressure switch that fits you have two options fit a contact switch above the brake pedal or use another pressure switch as used in most older british and european casrs you just need to get fittings to match but you fit them to any part of the main brake lines owen dublin On 09/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com wrote: > Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to > detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > detomaso-request(a)server.detomasolist.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > detomaso-owner(a)server.detomasolist.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." > > > Daily Detomaso List Digest > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Shout out (Forest Goodhart) > 2. Re: Techno Question: How to check U joints integrity? (B Hower) > 3. Re: POCA business on this forum (Dave) > 4. Re: POCA business on this forum (Ken Green) > 5. Re: POCA business on this forum (Dave) > 6. Re: NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage (Kurt Byrnes) > 7. Anybody know.... (Tom Shinrock) > 8. FW: Anybody know.... (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > 9. Re: Anybody know.... (cengles(a)cox.net) > 10. Re: POCA (cengles(a)cox.net) > 11. Re: NPC - Processed some vintage race in-car footage > (Gray Gregory) > 12. Re: POCA (Stephen) > 13. Re: POCA (audionut(a)hushmail.com) > 14. Re: POCA (Ken Green) > 15. Re: POCA (Effie Richards) > 16. Re: POCA (scottcouchman(a)yahoo.com) > 17. Re: POCA (fastgrandma) > 18. Re: POCA Now, Off his meds? (Ken Green) > 19. New POCA video (Ed Mendez) > 20. Re: POCA business on this forum (Ed Mendez) > 21. Re: POCA Now, Off his meds? (Dave) > 22. Re: POCA Now, Off his meds? (Ed Mendez) > 23. Re: POCA Now, Off his meds? (Himes, Terry (397C)) > 24. Re: Anybody know.... (Judith McCartney) > 25. Re: POCA (Charles Engles) > 26. Re: POCA (Will Kooiman) > 27. Re: POCA (Scott Mead Photography) > 28. Re: POCA business on this forum (Will Kooiman) > 29. Re: POCA business on this forum (Ed Mendez) > 30. Re: POCA business on this forum (Will Kooiman) > 31. Yellow Goose for sale (Nolan) > 32. Re: New POCA video (Pantdino) > 33. Re: POCA (Douglas Kelm) > 34. Re: Yellow Goose for sale (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > 35. Re: POCA business on this forum (Jack Donahue) > 36. Re: POCA business on this forum (Konrad Szwab) > 37. Re: POCA business on this forum (Charles Engles) > 38. Re: POCA business on this forum (James coyne) > 39. 2511 and State Farm (Larry Finch) > 40. Re: 2511 and State Farm (L GRAY) > 41. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Tom Shinrock) > 42. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Effie Richards) > 43. Re: POCA business on this forum (Effie Richards) > 44. Re: POCA (Effie Richards) > 45. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Larry Finch) > 46. Re: POCA (MyCars) > 47. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Dennis Valdez) > 48. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Bill Moore) > 49. Re: POCA (Effie Richards) > 50. Re: Shout out (Thomas Tornblom) > 51. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Richard Greenblum) > 52. Re: POCA business on this forum (Robert Pink) > 53. Hooking an MSD 6AL Rev Limiter to disengage the A/C > Compressor (Rob Dumoulin) > 54. Again with the threats! (Kurt Byrnes) > 55. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Larry - Ohio Time) > 56. Re: Again with the threats! (Konrad Szwab) > 57. Re: POCA business on this forum (Dave) > 58. Re: Again with the threats! (cengles(a)cox.net) > 59. Re: Hooking an MSD 6AL Rev Limiter to disengage the A/C > Compressor (Charles McCall) > 60. Re: Again with the threats! (Charles McCall) > 61. Re: Hooking an MSD 6AL Rev Limiter to disengage the A/C > Compressor (Rob Dumoulin) > 62. Re: Hooking an MSD 6AL Rev Limiter to disengage the A/C > Compressor (bill gaino) > 63. Re: Again with the threats! (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) > 64. Re: Again with the threats! (Stephen) > 65. Great things that have happened because of This List (many > moons ago) (Charles McCall) > 66. Re: 2511 and State Farm (Mark Charlton) > 67. Re: Great things that have happened because of This List > (many moons ago) (Bill Lewis) > 68. Re: Again with the threats! (Mark Charlton) > 69. NPC: BBC item (cengles(a)cox.net) > 70. Re: Great things that have happened because of This List > (many moons ago) (Effie Richards) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 16:44:39 +0000 (UTC) > From: Forest Goodhart <forestg(a)att.net> > To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew(a)aol.com>, Thomas Tornblom <thomas(a)hax.se> > Cc: "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shout out > Message-ID: > <620137675.488296.1465404279356.JavaMail.yahoo(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Actually it is not a tapered pipe thread. It is a straight thread with an inverted flare seat. I have not measured the thread pitch but I think it is?SAE as opposed to metric.?Forest > > From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > To: Thomas Tornblom <thomas(a)hax.se> > Cc: "detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com>; Forest Goodhart <forestg(a)att.net> > Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shout out > > Thomas, > > I think it's a tapered pipe thread? > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 7, 2016, at 23:43, Thomas Tornblom <thomas(a)hax.se> wrote: > >> I would be very surprised if it had any thread other than M10x1. >> >> Thomas >> >> Den 2016-06-07 kl. 22:36, skrev Mike Drew: >>> Thomas, >>> >>> The valve block is almost assuredly a Euro Ford part, maybe common with a Transit van or something like that... >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 13:00, thomas <thomas(a)hax.se> wrote: >>> >>>> ? The shuttle valve looks very similar to late 1960:s early 1970:s Volvo. >>>> ? However they did not have a hydraulic switch. >>>> >>>> ? Many European cars of the era had switches that look very similar. >>>> ? Earlier single circuit Volvos, VW, Saab could be potential donors. >>>> >>>> ? What >>>> ? about: [1]http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/search/?text=Brake+light+sw >>>> ? itch >>>> >>>> ? Thomas >>>> >>>> ? 7 juni 2016 kl. 21:36 skrev Forest Goodhart <[2]forestg(a)att.net>: >>>> >>>> ? ? Tom, >>>> ? ? ? I've never found a brake light switch anywhere other than a Pantera >>>> ? ? vendor. I have tried NAPA and other parts stores but without luck. If >>>> ? ? the source of the shuttle valve could be determined you might then be >>>> ? ? able to source one. >>>> ? ? Forest >>>> ? ? ? __________________________________________________________________ >>>> ? ? From: Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> >>>> ? ? To: [4]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >>>> ? ? Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:41 AM >>>> ? ? Subject: [DeTomaso] Shout out >>>> ? ? ? All, >>>> ? ? ? I drove my Pantera from Iowa to St. Charles, IL to attend the Great >>>> ? ? ? Lakes Pantera chapter's Spring Fling.? I've attended all of these >>>> ? ? since >>>> ? ? ? the first one three years ago.? As usual, it was good to see old >>>> ? ? ? friends and meet new ones.? I believe Jon Haas has attended all of >>>> ? ? ? these events to showcase his electronic products designed for the >>>> ? ? ? Pantera. >>>> ? ? ? It is always enjoyable to talk to Jon and see him demonstrate his >>>> ? ? ? stuff. >>>> ? ? ? This year it was fortuitous for me to have Jon attend because for >>>> ? the >>>> ? ? ? first time in 30 years I had car trouble.? The car ran great on the >>>> ? ? ? drive to St. Charles and it ran with no problems to the cars and >>>> ? ? coffee >>>> ? ? ? event we attended on Saturday morning.? Come Sunday morning when we >>>> ? ? are >>>> ? ? ? getting ready to leave the hotel for breakfast, my car wouldn't >>>> ? stay >>>> ? ? ? running.? It started immediately and then died.? Lots of cranking >>>> ? ? ? followed with no start. >>>> ? ? ? Dave Doddek (GLP chapter president)? immediately came to my aid to >>>> ? ? ? diagnose the problem, as he is prone to do.? He pulled a plug wire >>>> ? ? and >>>> ? ? ? determined there was no spark. He checked for moisture in the >>>> ? ? ? distributor cap (there was none), he checked for loose connections >>>> ? on >>>> ? ? ? the firewall (there were none)? he looked at the fuse box for >>>> ? ? anything >>>> ? ? ? out of the ordinary (there wasn't).? By this time Jon joined in the >>>> ? ? ? investigation (after all....I was holding everybody up to go to >>>> ? ? ? breakfast). >>>> ? ? ? During Dave and Jon's troubleshooting, I was able to start the car >>>> ? a >>>> ? ? ? couple of times but then it wouldn't start afterwards.? Dave had >>>> ? ? ? mentioned that the terminal block under the steering wheel column >>>> ? can >>>> ? ? ? cause problems and after looking at it, it was determined that that >>>> ? ? was >>>> ? ? ? the source of my intermittent ignition problem.? My terminal block >>>> ? ? was >>>> ? ? ? corroded so bad that the screws holding the wires could not be >>>> ? ? turned. >>>> ? ? ? Jon said he usually carries that terminal block with him but he >>>> ? left >>>> ? ? in >>>> ? ? ? such a hurry for the event he didn't pack any.? He then proceeded >>>> ? to >>>> ? ? ? make a field repair using a combination of a smaller connector and >>>> ? ? ? spade connectors to connect the wires without the terminal block so >>>> ? I >>>> ? ? ? could drive the four hours home. >>>> ? ? ? As you are all aware, working under the steering column with the >>>> ? seat >>>> ? ? ? in is not very comfortable and there is not much room to work with >>>> ? ? the >>>> ? ? ? short length of wire.? Jon spent at least 30 to 40 minutes on his >>>> ? ? back >>>> ? ? ? fixing my car, which worked perfectly after he was done and got me >>>> ? ? home >>>> ? ? ? without incident. >>>> ? ? ? The help and assistance offered by Dave and Jon were greatly >>>> ? ? ? appreciated by me and demonstrate why I love being a part of the >>>> ? ? ? Pantera family. >>>> ? ? ? Oh...and by the way.? Jon also diagnosed that my brake switch on >>>> ? the >>>> ? ? ? shuttle valve was the reason my brake lights didn't work (as I >>>> ? found >>>> ? ? ? out driving to the cars and coffee) by another Pantera owner >>>> ? driving >>>> ? ? ? behind me.? Is this switch special to the point I need to get it >>>> ? from >>>> ? ? ? an vendor or is it a common NAPA part? >>>> ? ? ? Tom >>>> ? ? ? 5186 >>>> ? ? _______________________________________________ >>>> ? ? Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >>>> ? ? Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>>> ? ? DeTomaso mailing list >>>> ? ? 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