September 2016 - DeTomaso - detomasolist.com

Re: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options?
by cengles＠cox.net 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

Dear Brent, IIRC, they were GE truck headlights that were for sale on Amazon for about $125 each. I cannot recall which truck nor the part number. Good luck Warmest regards, Chuck Engles On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Brent Stewart via DeTomaso wrote: > Excellent, that's what I'd like to do! Thanks Julian... > brent > On Friday, September 9, 2016 9:41 AM, Julian Kift > <julian_kift(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > #yiv5510845250 #yiv5510845250 -- P > {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv5510845250 Brent, > Bill Moore replaced his with some LED drop in units and I have to say > they gave out an exceptional amount of light. > I cannot recall the brand and he's on the PNW cruise this week and > I'm not sure if he is monitoring the list, so I copied him direct. > Julian From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com> on > behalf of Brent Stewart via DeTomaso > <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 9:20 AM > To: DeTomaso List > Subject: [DeTomaso] Headlights - Stock replacement options? .Howdy > all,.Just getting ready for the Ironstone Concours coming up in a few > weeks, and I'd like to update the old headlights so I can drive at > night. I have the stock round ones, and would like to get something > that is a little more modern and brighter..I put these Halogens in my > 240Z and they seem to work > great:.http://www.blackdragonauto.com/Features/Z/ZEL1.htm > .Any reason they wouldn't fit the P-car? What else have y'all > used?.Thanks for your advice!!!.brent.. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive > or approve the archiving of list messages.

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wheel balancing II
by Charles McCall 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

The shop that installed the rubber on my rims yesterday didn't balance them because they don't have equipment that will accept a tire this size. We're talking about rear tires on a GT5-S - 345-35-15's. I remember the shudder that resulted when a weight fell off my daily driver a few years ago. Is this something I should worry about? Or should I drive it and see if it shakes my teeth out first? The shop that installed the rubber on my rims yesterday didn't balance them because they don't have equipment that will accept a tire this size. We're talking about rear tires on a GT5-S - 345-35-15's.A I remember the shudder that resulted when a weight fell off my daily driver a few years ago. Is this something I should worry about? Or should I drive it and see if it shakes my teeth out first?

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Alloy flywheel.
by Michael Barnes 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

Looking for some advise please chaps. I'm having my Cleveland stroked out with all the goodies added, Now I've been offered a centre force flywheel and clutch assembly, it's a lot of money for the flywheel, is it worth it? What do you think? Thanks in advance Sent from Michael's iPhone

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Re: [DeTomaso] Weights for wheel balance on Magnesium
by Tomas Gunnarsson 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

I've only used stick on weights and they don't come in contact with the magnesium. On my track day wheels I have edge mounted weights but on the other hand those wheels don't see much rain. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Charles McCall [charlesmccall(a)gmail.com] Sent: 9/9/2016 9:53:50 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Weights for wheel balance on Magnesium Hi all I'm pretty sure I've read recommendations in this list regarding proper installation of the weights added during wheel balancing, but I don't remember what they were. Are there special considerations that should be taken into account when balancing a magnesium rim and associated tire so as not to damage the magnesium? Thank you! I've only used stick on weights and they don't come in contact with the magnesium. On my track day wheels I have edge mounted weights but on the other hand those wheels don't see much rain. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Charles McCall [charlesmccall(a)gmail.com] Sent: 9/9/2016 9:53:50 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Weights for wheel balance on Magnesium Hi all I'm pretty sure I've read recommendations in this list regarding proper installation of the weights added during wheel balancing, but I don't remember what they were. Are there special considerations that should be taken into account when balancing a magnesium rim and associated tire so as not to damage the magnesium? Thank you!

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Re: [DeTomaso] wheel balancing II
by Tomas Gunnarsson 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

It all depends on how unbalanced they are. The previous owner of my car had never bothered having the wheels balanced. I couldn't feel anything strange when I drove the car. I had the wheels balanced and of course noticed no change. I don't remember the wheels requiring an unusual amount of weights either. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Charles McCall [charlesmccall(a)gmail.com] Sent: 9/9/2016 10:08:58 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] wheel balancing II The shop that installed the rubber on my rims yesterday didn't balance them because they don't have equipment that will accept a tire this size. We're talking about rear tires on a GT5-S - 345-35-15's. I remember the shudder that resulted when a weight fell off my daily driver a few years ago. Is this something I should worry about? Or should I drive it and see if it shakes my teeth out first? It all depends on how unbalanced they are. The previous owner of my car had never bothered having the wheels balanced. I couldn't feel anything strange when I drove the car. I had the wheels balanced and of course noticed no change. I don't remember the wheels requiring an unusual amount of weights either. Tomas <-----Ursprungligt Meddelande-----> From: Charles McCall [charlesmccall(a)gmail.com] Sent: 9/9/2016 10:08:58 AM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] wheel balancing II The shop that installed the rubber on my rims yesterday didn't balance them because they don't have equipment that will accept a tire this size. We're talking about rear tires on a GT5-S - 345-35-15's. I remember the shudder that resulted when a weight fell off my daily driver a few years ago. Is this something I should worry about? Or should I drive it and see if it shakes my teeth out first?

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10x15 Wheel Pantera GTS - Marvic Wheels
by Ed Mendez 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

Hi All, As a favor to me, and for the Pantera community, my good friend at Marvic Wheels in Italy has now made the DeTomaso Pantera 10x15 Campagnolo wheels in magnesium (as the original) and in both the Long and Short rib designs. He is also making the 8x15 fronts brand new in Magnesium as well. These are made and ready for sale. This is great news! Ed Side note: As far as tires, I know that Chip Foose had Pirelli make a run of 15” P7’s so possible we can get some of those as he didn’t use them. > > http://www.marvic.it/en/prodotto/pantera-gts/ <http://www.marvic.it/en/prodotto/pantera-gts/> > > Wheel Pantera GTS - Marvic Wheels > > Pantera GTS - A real Italian-American story. In the late 60s, the Ford Company gave to the Italian De Tomaso the production of a high performance, mid-engined car, for the US market. > > The intent was to counter the fame of Corvette in the USA (General Motors production) and to take advantage of the successes achieved in Europe by the GT40 in both sales and track. > > Thanks to the agreement, Tom Tjaarda together with De Tomaso drew the body, reworking the technical scheme already experienced with the Mangusta. Gianpaolo Dallara had the daunting task of revolutionizing the steel backbone chassis frame of the prototype, to a less expensive steel monocoque: it was a specific request made by Ford in order to ensure a more competitive price with the rivals of the era. > > A Ford 351 Cleveland engine powered by a huge Holley carburetor constitutes the finishing touches, along with self-ventilated brake discs, ZF synchronized transmissions and limited-slip differential. > > In the spring of '71 the public debut and the marketing. > > Thanks to the 3D scan and then the RE of original wheels of the era, Marvic today manufactures and offers the full range of magnesium wheels. Reliable and perfect to let this Italian-American Muscle Car shine again they are in fact all available: the front wheels in 8"x 15" and both versions of rear wheels: 10 "x 15" long and short "ribs". > > Available sizes > Front 8" x 15" > Rear Post. 10" x 15" (short and long ribs) > Available colors > Marvic gold, Grey Aluminium. Other colors on request. Hi All, As a favor to me, and for the Pantera community, my good friend at Marvic Wheels in Italy has now made the DeTomaso Pantera 10x15 Campagnolo wheels in magnesium (as the original) and in both the Long and Short rib designs. He is also making the 8x15 fronts brand new in Magnesium as well. These are made and ready for sale. This is great news! Ed Side note: As far as tires, I know that Chip Foose had Pirelli make a run of 15" P7's so possible we can get some of those as he didn't use them. [1]http://www.marvic.it/en/prodotto/pantera-gts/ Wheel Pantera GTS - Marvic Wheels [cid:6BA2327C-CA22-4B39-80D9-C80A1DC8BEB3@Home] Pantera GTS - A real Italian-American story. In the late 60s, the Ford Company gave to the Italian De Tomaso the production of a high performance, mid-engined car, for the US market. The intent was to counter the fame of Corvette in the USA (General Motors production) and to take advantage of the successes achieved in Europe by the GT40 in both sales and track. Thanks to the agreement, Tom Tjaarda together with De Tomaso drew the body, reworking the technical scheme already experienced with the Mangusta. Gianpaolo Dallara had the daunting task of revolutionizing the steel backbone chassis frame of the prototype, to a less expensive steel monocoque: it was a specific request made by Ford in order to ensure a more competitive price with the rivals of the era. A Ford 351 Cleveland engine powered by a huge Holley carburetor constitutes the finishing touches, along with self-ventilated brake discs, ZF synchronized transmissions and limited-slip differential. In the spring of '71 the public debut and the marketing. Thanks to the 3D scan and then the RE of original wheels of the era, Marvic today manufactures and offers the full range of magnesium wheels. Reliable and perfect to let this Italian-American Muscle Car shine again they are in fact all available: the front wheels in 8"x 15" and both versions of rear wheels: 10 "x 15" long and short "ribs". Available sizes Front 8" x 15" Rear Post. 10" x 15" (short and long ribs) Available colors Marvic gold, Grey Aluminium. Other colors on request. References 1. http://www.marvic.it/en/prodotto/pantera-gts/

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NPC - Anybody driven a new Fiat Spider?
by Rob Dumoulin 09 Sep '16

09 Sep '16

I already have one of the new Fiat 500 Abarths which is very fun to drive. I saw the new Spider in the showroom and it was the only one they had (therefore, they did not offer test drives). It looks very nice, though it did not come with a manual tranny like the 500 and the Abarth version has not been released yet. Anybody get a chance to drive one? I already have one of the new Fiat 500 Abarths which is very fun to drive. I saw the new Spider in the showroom and it was the only one they had (therefore, they did not offer test drives). It looks very nice, though it did not come with a manual tranny like the 500 and the Abarth version has not been released yet. A Anybody get a chance to drive one?

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NPS: also today
by Larry - Ohio Time 08 Sep '16

08 Sep '16

In a blockbuster deal, Liberty Media Corporation and CVC Capital Partners (CVC) announced that Liberty Media has agreed to acquire Formula One from a consortium of sellers led by CVC. Liberty Media, a U.S. corporation, owns interests in quite a range of media, communications and entertainment businesses, including SiriusXM, the Atlanta Braves baseball team. The transaction price represents an enterprise value for Formula One of $8.0 billion and an equity value of $4.4 billion. According to the press release, Liberty will rename the company the Formula One Group after the sale is completed. The consortium of sellers led by CVC will own approximately 65% of the Formula One Group's equity and will have board representation at Formula One to support Liberty Media in continuing to develop the full potential of the sport. In addition, a CVC representative will be joining the Liberty Media Board of Directors. Chase Carey has been appointed as the new Chairman of Formula One, succeeding Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, who will remain on Formula One's board as a non-executive director. Bernie Ecclestone will remain Formula One's CEO. Greg Maffei, president and CEO of Liberty Media, said: "We are excited to become part of Formula One. We think our long-term perspective and expertise with media and sports assets will allow us to be good stewards of Formula One and benefit fans, teams and our shareholders. We look forward to working closely with Chase Carey and Bernie Ecclestone to support the next phase of growth for this hugely popular global sport." Chase Carey, chairman of Formula One, said: "I am thrilled to take up the role of Chairman of Formula One and have the opportunity to work alongsideBernie Ecclestone, CVC, and the Liberty Media team. I greatly admire Formula One as a unique global sports entertainment franchise attracting hundreds of millions of fans each season from all around the world. I see great opportunity to help Formula One continue to develop and prosper for the benefit of the sport, fans, teams and investors alike." Bernie Ecclestone, CEO of Formula One, said: "I would like to welcome Liberty Media and Chase Carey to Formula One and I look forward to working with them." Donald Mackenzie, co-chairman of CVC, commented: "We are delighted Chase Carey is joining Formula One as its new Chairman and that he will be working alongside Bernie Ecclestone. Chase's experience and knowledge of sport, media and entertainment is as good as it gets and we are very pleased to secure his services. Bernie has been a wonderful CEO for us over the last 10 years. There have been many successes and the occasional challenge but there has never been a dull moment and we have had a lot of fun. The combined skills of Chase and Bernie mean that the successes should continue and we wish them well. We would like to thank Peter Brabeck-Letmathe for his outstanding contribution during his tenure as Chairman. His leadership has served the company well, and we are pleased that he will remain on the board as a non-executive director." Race teams competing in the series will be given the opportunity to participate in the investment in Formula One, according the press release, but details are not yet worked out. Certain teams have already expressed an interest in investing after completion of the acquisition. The impact of what Liberty and new Chairman Chase Carey can impose in the near term will probably be very little. After the sale is completed in 2017, however, we expect to see much bigger changes in the way the series is covered in by new media, where it has often lagged behind other major sports. Teams should have more control of their destiny as well, which will create stability for the teams and sponsors. Other than keeping 85-year old Ecclestone as CEO, it seems like a step forward for Formula 1 and its fans. But time will tell. Larry (lets hope they don't blow it) - Cleveland In a blockbuster deal, Liberty Media Corporation and CVC Capital Partners (CVC) announced that Liberty Media has agreed to acquire Formula One from a consortium of sellers led by CVC. Liberty Media, a U.S. corporation, owns interests in quite a range of media, communications and entertainment businesses, including SiriusXM, the Atlanta Braves baseball team. IFRAME: [1]https://s0.2mdn.net/4568611/1459193977459/index.html The transaction price represents an enterprise value for Formula One of $8.0 billion and an equity value of $4.4 billion. According to the press release, Liberty will rename the company the Formula One Group after the sale is completed. The consortium of sellers led by CVC will own approximately 65% of the Formula One Group's equity and will have board representation at Formula One to support Liberty Media in continuing to develop the full potential of the sport. In addition, a CVC representative will be joining the Liberty Media Board of Directors. Chase Carey has been appointed as the new Chairman of Formula One, succeeding Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, who will remain on Formula One's board as a non-executive director. Bernie Ecclestone will remain Formula One's CEO. Greg Maffei, president and CEO of Liberty Media, said: "We are excited to become part of Formula One. We think our long-term perspective and expertise with media and sports assets will allow us to be good stewards of Formula One and benefit fans, teams and our shareholders. We look forward to working closely with Chase Carey and Bernie Ecclestone to support the next phase of growth for this hugely popular global sport." Chase Carey, chairman of Formula One, said: "I am thrilled to take up the role of Chairman of Formula One and have the opportunity to work alongsideBernie Ecclestone, CVC, and the Liberty Media team. I greatly admire Formula One as a unique global sports entertainment franchise attracting hundreds of millions of fans each season from all around the world. I see great opportunity to help Formula One continue to develop and prosper for the benefit of the sport, fans, teams and investors alike." Bernie Ecclestone, CEO of Formula One, said: "I would like to welcome Liberty Media and Chase Carey to Formula One and I look forward to working with them." Donald Mackenzie, co-chairman of CVC, commented: "We are delighted Chase Carey is joining Formula One as its new Chairman and that he will be working alongside Bernie Ecclestone. Chase's experience and knowledge of sport, media and entertainment is as good as it gets and we are very pleased to secure his services. Bernie has been a wonderful CEO for us over the last 10 years. There have been many successes and the occasional challenge but there has never been a dull moment and we have had a lot of fun. The combined skills of Chase and Bernie mean that the successes should continue and we wish them well. We would like to thank Peter Brabeck-Letmathe for his outstanding contribution during his tenure as Chairman. His leadership has served the company well, and we are pleased that he will remain on the board as a non-executive director." Race teams competing in the series will be given the opportunity to participate in the investment in Formula One, according the press release, but details are not yet worked out. Certain teams have already expressed an interest in investing after completion of the acquisition. The impact of what Liberty and new Chairman Chase Carey can impose in the near term will probably be very little. After the sale is completed in 2017, however, we expect to see much bigger changes in the way the series is covered in by new media, where it has often lagged behind other major sports. Teams should have more control of their destiny as well, which will create stability for the teams and sponsors. Other than keeping 85-year old Ecclestone as CEO, it seems like a step forward for Formula 1 and its fans. But time will tell. Larry (lets hope they don't blow it) - Cleveland References 1. https://s0.2mdn.net/4568611/1459193977459/index.html

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Re: [DeTomaso] NPS: also today
by bill＠incendium.com 08 Sep '16

08 Sep '16

Fight nice u 2 ! CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)OhioTimeCorp.com> Date: 2016-09-08 12:31 PM (GMT-08:00) To: audionut(a)hushmail.com, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPS: also today Block me! -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of audionut(a)hushmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:18 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPS: also today Dammit Larry! This is a Pantera Forum, not a trivia dumping ground! Sent using Hushmail On September 8, 2016 at 12:15 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" wrote:In a blockbuster deal, Liberty Media Corporation and CVC Capital Partners (CVC) announced that Liberty Media has agreed to acquire Formula One from a consortium of sellers led by CVC. Liberty Media, a U.S. corporation, owns interests in quite a range of media, communications and entertainment businesses, including SiriusXM, the Atlanta Braves baseball team. The transaction price represents an enterprise value for Formula One of $8.0 billion and an equity value of $4.4 billion. According to the press release, Liberty will rename the company the Formula One Group after the sale is completed. The consortium of sellers led by CVC will own approximately 65% of the Formula One Group's equity and will have board representation at Formula One to support Liberty Media in continuing to develop the full potential of the sport. In addition, a CVC representative will be joining the Liberty Media Board of Directors. Chase Carey has been appointed as the new Chairman of Formula One, succeeding Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, who will remain on Formula One's board as a non-executive director. Bernie Ecclestone will remain Formula One's CEO. Greg Maffei, president and CEO of Liberty Media, said: "We are excited to become part of Formula One. We think our long-term perspective and expertise with media and sports assets will allow us to be good stewards of Formula One and benefit fans, teams and our shareholders. We look forward to working closely with Chase Carey and Bernie Ecclestone to support the next phase of growth for this hugely popular global sport." Chase Carey, chairman of Fight nice u 2 ! Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: Larry - Ohio Time <Larry(a)OhioTimeCorp.com> Date: 2016-09-08 12:31 PM (GMT-08:00) To: audionut(a)hushmail.com, detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPS: also today Block me! -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of audionut(a)hushmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:18 PM To: detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NPS: also today Dammit Larry! This is a Pantera Forum, not a trivia dumping ground! Sent using Hushmail On September 8, 2016 at 12:15 PM, "Larry - Ohio Time" wrote:In a blockbuster deal, Liberty Media Corporation and CVC Capital Partners (CVC) announced that Liberty Media has agreed to acquire Formula One from a consortium of sellers led by CVC. Liberty Media, a U.S. corporation, owns interests in quite a range of media, communications and entertainment businesses, including SiriusXM, the Atlanta Braves baseball team. The transaction price represents an enterprise value for Formula One of $8.0 billion and an equity value of $4.4 billion. According to the press release, Liberty will rename the company the Formula One Group after the sale is completed. The consortium of sellers led by CVC will own approximately 65% of the Formula One Group's equity and will have board representation at Formula One to support Liberty Media in continuing to develop the full potential of the sport. In addition, a CVC representative will be joining the Liberty Media Board of Directors. Chase Carey has been appointed as the new Chairman of Formula One, succeeding Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, who will remain on Formula One's board as a non-executive director. Bernie Ecclestone will remain Formula One's CEO. Greg Maffei, president and CEO of Liberty Media, said: "We are excited to become part of Formula One. We think our long-term perspective and expertise with media and sports assets will allow us to be good stewards of Formula One and benefit fans, teams and our shareholders. We look forward to working closely with Chase Carey and Bernie Ecclestone to support the next phase of growth for this hugely popular global sport." Chase Carey, chairman of

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NPC: on this day
by Larry - Ohio Time 08 Sep '16

08 Sep '16

On September 8, 1966 at 8:30 pm ET, a new series premiered on the NBC television network. Neither the network nor the studio had any confidence in it and Variety panned it as "an incredible and dreary mess of confusion and complexities." Never a ratings hit, it barely ran three seasons before cancellation, yet this unsuccessful show called Star Trek went on to become a cultural phenomenon whose influence continues to reverberate half a century later, not only in entertainment, but in its impact on science and technology. Larry (Live Long and Pantera) - Cleveland On September 8, 1966 at 8:30 pm ET, a new series premiered on the NBC television network. Neither the network nor the studio had any confidence in it and Variety panned it as "an incredible and dreary mess of confusion and complexities." Never a ratings hit, it barely ran three seasons before cancellation, yet this unsuccessful show called Star Trek went on to become a cultural phenomenon whose influence continues to reverberate half a century later, not only in entertainment, but in its impact on science and technology. Larry (Live Long and Pantera) - Cleveland

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