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Copyright law
by Kurt Byrnes 24 May '16

24 May '16

If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh!

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Re: [DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
by Charles Engles 24 May '16

24 May '16

Dear Ken, The tone and timbre of this old email is only slightly less intense than the current ones I am aware of. The internet seems to release his inhibitions........ Warmest regards, Chuck Engles PS: I know Scott Black and he is a prince. -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:56 PM To: detomaso(a)detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr. Short's temperament. A few folks on the forum did not take kindly to the negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to line his own packets. Ken ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga(a)gmail.com> To: Art Stephens <artstephens(a)charter.net> Cc: DeTomaso A <detomaso(a)realbig.com>; scott black <timepiecepr2(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of Detomaso List postings I can't find another post by you. You may very well have the best of intentions. However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news ( that was on Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading me to question your motives, seeing that your business targets the automotive marketplace does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like creating a problem that you can offer to help fix for a fee. There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy Lube franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as being such is nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You above all others should know that to be true. Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind, esp. one that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass and watches TV instead of watching their car probably deserves whatever they get. There is no excuse for the crooks, they should have been arrested, that is nothing more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be watching and would ALWAYS request your parts. I personally ask for the new oil filter and date it myself with a sharpie "for my own records". Fluids changes can be checks by examining the dipstick for the color of the replacement fluids and lastly if they don't meet your expectations, refuse to pay until proof has been furnished, the last thing they want is a car blocking the bay or the police to show up if they are indeed crooks, too much attention and the last thing a crook wants is attention. Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to take and if you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space for a backyard buddy so that I could easily do those routine things myself, then it is your responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody else ever will. Michael in Savannah On 8/24/07, Art Stephens <artstephens(a)charter.net> wrote: > > Thank you Scott. I don't do business with them and it looks like I >never will! > > Art > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "scott black" <timepiecepr2(a)yahoo.com> > To: "DeTomaso A" <detomaso(a)realbig.com> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM > Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC > > > > > > > > 4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business > >with > any > > Jiffy's in your town? > > > > > > > http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200k > .asx > > > > Scott Black > > > > > > TimePiece Public Relations > > Dallas - Houston - New York > > www.timepiecepr.com > > > > --------------------------------- > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! > > TV. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA > > > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at > > http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/ > > > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso(a)list.realbig.com > > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: > 8/23/2007 > > 4:04 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at > http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/ > > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso(a)list.realbig.com > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia www.michaelshortt.com michael(a)michaelshortt.com This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/ DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)list.realbig.com http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Re: [DeTomaso] Factory deck lid shock mounts And bumpers
by Ed Mendez 24 May '16

24 May '16

This is what someone did when it was last repaired. So what bracing is there underneath to provide strength? Looks like they welded this in on top for bracing. Thanks, Ed > On 23/05/2016, at 15:32, Larry Stock <larrys(a)panteraparts.com> wrote: > > Hi Ed, > Pantera Parts Connection makes these little tricky pieces. They need to be > welded in and that is tricky as well unless the Engine is removed. They > need to be level, otherwise the decklid struts will not stay up as they > begin to collapse the pressure lessons to the point of ease of closure. > > Our dEck Lid shocks are made just for Pantera¹s and have the proper size > mounting heads for either the 10 mm 71 allen cap screw fastner, or the 72 > and later 6 mm hex head bolt systems. > > > > > > > 18126P PPC Shock rear deck lid support $42.00 each > > > > > > > 18126X Support, Lower Shock Bracket $75.00 each > > Larry Stock > > > On 5/23/16, 2:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ed Mendez" > <detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of edducati(a)mac.com> > wrote: > >> >> Can someone please send me either schematics or blueprints or pictures of >> the factory decklid mounts for a 1972 serial number 3072. Engine bay >> side? They are either welded on top of the engine bay (early) or welded >> and braced from underneath (later). >> >> My car is in the body shop and the factory location for the deck lid >> shocks were missing jerry rigged and non stock. Here's a picture from >> serial number 36xx blue car, and then from a push button black car. When >> did the factory change over to the new style of mounting location? >> >> My other car 2152 has the early style as pictured. The candy apple car. >> >> Also, need the factory locations for the rubber bumper on each side on >> top of the tail light housings. >> >> Thanks Ed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus_______________________________________________ >> >> Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use >> the links above. > > <18126X Deck-lid Shock mount.jpg><18126X Lower shock support.jpg> This is what someone did when it was last repaired. So what bracing is there underneath to provide strength? Looks like they welded this in on top for bracing. Thanks, Ed [cid:3E4E5D35-4ADB-4092-A18A-F6EA6D681991@local] On 23/05/2016, at 15:32, Larry Stock <[1]larrys(a)panteraparts.com> wrote: Hi Ed, Pantera Parts Connection makes these little tricky pieces. They need to be welded in and that is tricky as well unless the Engine is removed. They need to be level, otherwise the decklid struts will not stay up as they begin to collapse the pressure lessons to the point of ease of closure. Our dEck Lid shocks are made just for Pantera^1s and have the proper size mounting heads for either the 10 mm 71 allen cap screw fastner, or the 72 and later 6 mm hex head bolt systems. 18126P PPC Shock rear deck lid support $42.00 each 18126X Support, Lower Shock Bracket $75.00 each Larry Stock On 5/23/16, 2:49 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ed Mendez" <[2]detomaso-bounces(a)server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [3]edducati(a)mac.com> wrote: Can someone please send me either schematics or blueprints or pictures of the factory decklid mounts for a 1972 serial number 3072. Engine bay side? They are either welded on top of the engine bay (early) or welded and braced from underneath (later). My car is in the body shop and the factory location for the deck lid shocks were missing jerry rigged and non stock. Here's a picture from serial number 36xx blue car, and then from a push button black car. When did the factory change over to the new style of mounting location? My other car 2152 has the early style as pictured. The candy apple car. Also, need the factory locations for the rubber bumper on each side on top of the tail light housings. Thanks Ed Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus_______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. <18126X Deck-lid Shock mount.jpg><18126X Lower shock support.jpg> References 1. mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:edducati@mac.com 4. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com

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Windows 10 Default Settings
by Michael Cox 24 May '16

24 May '16

Since there was some discussion about forced upgrades to Windows 10 the other day, I want to remind people to check default settings for Microsoft accessing your info or tracking your activities. Search "windows 10 security issues" and then set options to your preferences. --michael cox Since there was some discussion about forced upgrades to Windows 10 the other day, I want to remind people to check default settings for Microsoft accessing your info or tracking your activities. Search "windows 10 security issues" and then set options to your preferences. A A --michael cox

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Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
by Asa Jay Laughton 23 May '16

23 May '16

Screenshot from not too long ago before the mail list moved, taken so things like the introduction could be replicated when the list was moved. I copied Kurt directly earlier not realizing this was to the list. We could probably also dig up the gentleman's agreements in the archives around the time Andy negotiated the change to POCA hosting the list. That is the best I know of. Asa Jay Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote: >If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to >copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! > >_______________________________________________ > >Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA >Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >DeTomaso mailing list >DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com >http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > >To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Screenshot from not too long ago before the mail list moved, taken so things like the introduction could be replicated when the list was moved. I copied Kurt directly earlier not realizing this was to the list. We could probably also dig up the gentleman's agreements in the archives around the time Andy negotiated the change to POCA hosting the list. That is the best I know of. Asa Jay Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Kurt Byrnes <kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote: If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.

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Re: [DeTomaso] Factory deck lid shock mounts And bumpers
by Ed Mendez 23 May '16

23 May '16

Awesome thanks!! Ed > On 23/05/2016, at 16:25, James coyne <tecnosound(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Ed , Hope these pictures off a 72 will help . > > From: edducati(a)mac.com > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:49:31 -0700 > To: DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > Subject: [DeTomaso] Factory deck lid shock mounts And bumpers > > > Can someone please send me either schematics or blueprints or pictures of the factory decklid mounts for a 1972 serial number 3072. Engine bay side? They are either welded on top of the engine bay (early) or welded and braced from underneath (later). > > My car is in the body shop and the factory location for the deck lid shocks were missing jerry rigged and non stock. Here's a picture from serial number 36xx blue car, and then from a push button black car. When did the factory change over to the new style of mounting location? > > My other car 2152 has the early style as pictured. The candy apple car. > > Also, need the factory locations for the rubber bumper on each side on top of the tail light housings. > > Thanks Ed > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > <IMG_5266.JPG><IMG_5268.JPG><IMG_5270.JPG><IMG_5271.JPG>

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Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
by scott＠scottmeadphotography.com 23 May '16

23 May '16

If memory serves, all that information was copyrighted by FoMoCo, any use of the materials would require a written release, facilitated through the company's PR department. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[1]byrdjf(a)embarqmail.com> Date: Mon, May 23, 2016 11:46 am To: Cc: <[2]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> Speaking of copyright; Does POCA have any say over the public posting of the Ford Shop Manual, TSB and Parts books? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Scott Mead Photography Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 17:16 PM To: Kurt Byrnes Cc: [4]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law Aloha Kurt, Are you talking about text or image copyrights? Mahalo, Scott Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Kurt Byrnes <[5]kdb(a)kbyrnes.com> wrote: > > If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com > [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [10]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 10. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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State of POCA address
by Forest Goodhart 23 May '16

23 May '16

OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No need to send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the distribution list from POCA. Forest OK, I've now gotten several copies of the state address. No need to send me any more. Just wonder why I was not on the distribution list from POCA. Forest

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Cleveland
by David 23 May '16

23 May '16

I could check this out if anyone is interested. Ford 351C-4V Complete engine Quench heads Original bore http://farmington.craigslist.org/pts/5581387219.html David in Durango I could check this out if anyone is interested. Ford 351C-4V Complete engine Quench heads Original bore [1]http://farmington.craigslist.org/pts/5581387219.html David in Durango References 1. http://farmington.craigslist.org/pts/5581387219.html

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Indy Dave's Pantera for sale again--4604
by MikeLDrew＠aol.com 23 May '16

23 May '16

Hi guys, Indy Dave's car has gone through a succession of elderly owners, at least two of whom determined that they were too old to enjoy the car properly (one only had it for three weeks!). It's now in Santa Fe, NM and is for sale again, but this time it's because the owner bought another Pantera that is more original, as he's more of a concours guy and Dave's car had a host of tasteful upgrades including a better motor, Corvette seats, and the tacky wheels were replaced by really good Wilkinson Campagnolo replicas. Here is the seller info: Paul Kalenian Santa Fe New Mexico 87506 505 699 8608 paul(a)kalenian.com You can see great photos of the car in the registry under #4604, and track its evolution as it was slowly improved from one owner to the next. Top photos show its current condition. Dave can probably weigh in on it generally, as he still is an active member of the forum even while being Panteraless. I don't know what the asking price is for the car. The intermediate owners both paid WAY over market price for it when they bought it, but then the market went up and so it's quite likely that the current asking price is close to being reasonable. Only the seller knows what that number is at the moment. Cheers! Mike Hi guys, Indy Dave's car has gone through a succession of elderly owners, at least two of whom determined that they were too old to enjoy the car properly (one only had it for three weeks!). It's now in Santa Fe, NM and is for sale again, but this time it's because the owner bought another Pantera that is more original, as he's more of a concours guy and Dave's car had a host of tasteful upgrades including a better motor, Corvette seats, and the tacky wheels were replaced by really good Wilkinson Campagnolo replicas. Here is the seller info: Paul Kalenian Santa Fe New Mexico 87506 505 699 8608 paul(a)kalenian.com You can see great photos of the car in the registry under #4604, and track its evolution as it was slowly improved from one owner to the next. Top photos show its current condition. Dave can probably weigh in on it generally, as he still is an active member of the forum even while being Panteraless. I don't know what the asking price is for the car. The intermediate owners both paid WAY over market price for it when they bought it, but then the market went up and so it's quite likely that the current asking price is close to being reasonable. Only the seller knows what that number is at the moment. Cheers! Mike

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