May 2016 - DeTomaso - detomasolist.com

Fw: Indy Dave's Pantera for sale again--4604
by Brent Stewart 27 May '16

27 May '16

Beautiful Car! On a side note, I have those same "tacky wheels" on my Pantera and have been trying to un-tacky them a bit. My first attempt is an Plasti-dip the centers with an Anthracite (sparkly) gray to cut down the the "bling" a bit. Here is a test fit I did over the weekend. Should have all 4 done by this coming weekend and will post some more picts... On Monday, May 23, 2016 9:36 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hi guys, Indy Dave's car has gone through a succession of elderly owners, at least two of whom determined that they were too old to enjoy the car properly (one only had it for three weeks!). It's now in Santa Fe, NM and is for sale again, but this time it's because the owner bought another Pantera that is more original, as he's more of a concours guy and Dave's car had a host of tasteful upgrades including a better motor, Corvette seats, and the tacky wheels were replaced by really good Wilkinson Campagnolo replicas. Here is the seller info: Paul Kalenian Santa Fe New Mexico 87506 505 699 8608 paul(a)kalenian.com You can see great photos of the car in the registry under #4604, and track its evolution as it was slowly improved from one owner to the next. Top photos show its current condition. Dave can probably weigh in on it generally, as he still is an active member of the forum even while being Panteraless. I don't know what the asking price is for the car. The intermediate owners both paid WAY over market price for it when they bought it, but then the market went up and so it's quite likely that the current asking price is close to being reasonable. Only the seller knows what that number is at the moment. Cheers! Mike _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Beautiful Car! On a side note, I have those same "tacky wheels" on my Pantera and have been trying to un-tacky them a bit. My first attempt is an Plasti-dip the centers with an Anthracite (sparkly) gray to cut down the the "bling" a bit. Here is a test fit I did over the weekend. Should have all 4 done by this coming weekend and will post some more picts... Inline image On Monday, May 23, 2016 9:36 AM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Hi guys, Indy Dave's car has gone through a succession of elderly owners, at least two of whom determined that they were too old to enjoy the car properly (one only had it for three weeks!). It's now in Santa Fe, NM and is for sale again, but this time it's because the owner bought another Pantera that is more original, as he's more of a concours guy and Dave's car had a host of tasteful upgrades including a better motor, Corvette seats, and the tacky wheels were replaced by really good Wilkinson Campagnolo replicas. Here is the seller info: Paul Kalenian Santa Fe New Mexico 87506 505 699 8608 [1]paul(a)kalenian.com You can see great photos of the car in the registry under #4604, and track its evolution as it was slowly improved from one owner to the next. Top photos show its current condition. Dave can probably weigh in on it generally, as he still is an active member of the forum even while being Panteraless. I don't know what the asking price is for the car. The intermediate owners both paid WAY over market price for it when they bought it, but then the market went up and so it's quite likely that the current asking price is close to being reasonable. Only the seller knows what that number is at the moment. Cheers! Mike _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. mailto:paul@kalenian.com 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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help searching (powder coat campys)
by Garth Rodericks 27 May '16

27 May '16

Not an answer to your search question, but here's the info I think you're looking for... I posted the restoration article to the PI Board some time ago, so here's the link there:http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/3460066094?r=1660097094#1660097094 I also powder coated my 8" Campys at home. 10's won't fit in my oven.http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456? Cheers!Garth Not an answer to your search question, but here's the info I think you're looking for... I posted the restoration article to the PI Board some time ago, so here's the link there: [1]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/3460066094 ?r=1660097094#1660097094 I also powder coated my 8" Campys at home. 10's won't fit in my oven. [2]http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456 ? Cheers! Garth References 1. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/3460066094?r=1660… 2. http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044/m/4081069456?

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Unusual headlights?
by The DeTomaso Registry Guy 27 May '16

27 May '16

(Testing another image as an attachment, size=104kb) A new registry user asked me about these headlights, on car Unknown800. The registry has no contact for the owner, so I can not ask, and I don't know these headlights myself. Does anyone know more? The photo was dated around 2010, and from Maryland. I'll try posting another image next. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp (Testing another image as an attachment, size=104kb) A new registry user asked me about these headlights, on car Unknown800. The registry has no contact for the owner, so I can not ask, and I don't know these headlights myself. Does anyone know more? The photo was dated around 2010, and from Maryland. I'll try posting another image next... Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [1]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp References 1. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp

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NPC: (Test) Looks a little like Mike Drew
by The DeTomaso Registry Guy 27 May '16

27 May '16

This is only a test. If this were a real emergency, I would have grabbed the last parachute already. Image attached. Chuck This is only a test. If this were a real emergency, I would have grabbed the last parachute already. Image attached. Chuck

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Re: [DeTomaso] Unusual headlights?
by scott＠scottmeadphotography.com 26 May '16

26 May '16

I'm not positive, but they look like modified PIAA 2100XT Driving Lights to me... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [DeTomaso] Unusual headlights? From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[1]detomasoregistry(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, May 26, 2016 12:52 pm To: "DeTomaso List" <[2]detomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com> (Testing another image as an attachment, size=104kb) A new registry user asked me about these headlights, on car Unknown800. The registry has no contact for the owner, so I can not ask, and I don't know these headlights myself. Does anyone know more? The photo was dated around 2010, and from Maryland. I'll try posting another image next. Chuck The De Tomaso Registry Guy [3]http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp __________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso(a)server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://www.detomasoregistry.org/Members/ProvaMoMemMain.asp 4. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Please look at the new footer and tell me what everyone thinks.
by Kurt Byrnes 26 May '16

26 May '16

Test of footer.

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TEST
by Bob Radefeld 26 May '16

26 May '16

Test Test

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NPC: Drag racing history in NE Ohio
by Larry - Ohio Time 26 May '16

26 May '16

Local Ohio drag racing legends Art and Walt Arfons, Otis "Otie" Smith, and "Akron" Arlen Vanke will be the subjects of an Ohio Historical Marker plaque dedication on Father's Day, June 19th, at the Akron Fulton Airport to honor their contributions and innovations in the drag racing industry. The plaque will rest at the spot where the four renowned drag racers first began their careers in the early 1950s. At that time, Fulton Airport runway was the first National Hot Rod Association sanctioned drag race track east of the Mississippi. This will be the first Historical Marker dedicated to racing of any kind in Ohio, and comes thanks to the efforts of the group Akron Race Legends, headed by Randy Lipscomb, with further assistance from Paul Suloff, Bob Jones, John Stevenson, and Ken Andrus. "This is the spot where these local heroes became drag racing innovators back in the '50s and '60s," said Lipscomb, "and we believe that honoring these racing pioneers is long overdue." <a href="http://www5.smartadserver.com/ac?jump=1&nwid=1775&siteid=97808&pgname= home_ros&fmtid=39541&visit=m&tmstp=[timestamp]&out=nonrich" target="_blank">< img src="http://www5.smartadserver.com/ac?out=nonrich&nwid=1775&siteid=97808&pgn ame=home_ros&fmtid=39541&visit=m&tmstp=[timestamp]" border="0" alt=""/></a> In addition to the ceremony, the group will also be hosting a car show, which begins at 4PM. There will be food, entertainment, and dozens of classic cars from all around Ohio in attendance. The dedication itself will begin at 5PM, and features Ohio Lieutenant Governor Mary Taylor as the key note speaker. State Representative Greta Johnson, 35th House District, will also address the audience. Relatives of the former hot-rodders will be in attendance: Tim Arfons and Dusty Arfons-Spraggins (son and daughter of Art Arfons), Terry Arfons (son of Walt Arfons), Billy Smith (son of Otis Smith), and Craig Vanke (son of Arlen Vanke). Both of the Arfons, who are half-brothers, were early pioneers of fast vehicles. In 1964, a car designed by Walt Arfons, and driven by Tom Green, called the Wingfoot Express set the world land-speed record of 413 mph. Three days later, Art's jet-propelled Green Monster took the title with a speed of 434 mph. Then, in 1965, Art Arfons went on to set the world land-speed record of 576.553 mph. Art Arfons has been inducted into the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America, the International Drag Racing Hall of Fame, the International Motorsports Hall of Fame, the Ohio State Tractor Pullers Hall of Fame, the National Tractor Puller Hall of Fame, and the Summit County Sports Hall of Fame. Otis "Otie" Smith was another Akron hot rodding hero to come from Akron, Ohio. An early supporter of the National Hot Rod Association, Smith was running the regional NHRA races in his hometown before the nationals were even established, and he raced all over the Midwest, as well as Florida, Maine, and California. By his own estimation, he went on to compete in about 100 NHRA events in his 13-year career, which included being named the 1959 Middle Eliminator winner at the National Hot Rod Association Nationals in Detroit. In addition, he was the first president of the Akron Cam Jammers car club, and was the proprietor of Otie's Automotive in Kenmore, Ohio. Along with the Arfons and Smith, "Akron" Arlen Vanke was another local hot rodding legend. He won innumerable races in the Stock, Super Stock, and Pro Stock classes over the course of his career, and was hired by Chrysler while still racing to help test their performance technology. In 1971, he became a member of the United States Racing Team, an organization consisting of the top names in Pro Stock racing, which exhibited across the country until 1972. I remember Akron Arlen yelled at me for lighting up a cutting torch with in 50 feet of his Pro Stock car (1973) in a shop. He later apologies for yelling, but said don't do it again. Remember driving past Art Arfons shop to see if I could see anything they were working on. Larry (memories) - Cleveland Local Ohio drag racing legends Art and Walt Arfons, Otis "Otie" Smith, and "Akron" Arlen Vanke will be the subjects of an Ohio Historical Marker plaque dedication on Father's Day, June 19th, at the Akron Fulton Airport to honor their contributions and innovations in the drag racing industry. The plaque will rest at the spot where the four renowned drag racers first began their careers in the early 1950s. At that time, Fulton Airport runway was the first National Hot Rod Association sanctioned drag race track east of the Mississippi. This will be the first Historical Marker dedicated to racing of any kind in Ohio, and comes thanks to the efforts of the group Akron Race Legends, headed by Randy Lipscomb, with further assistance from Paul Suloff, Bob Jones, John Stevenson, and Ken Andrus. "This is the spot where these local heroes became drag racing innovators back in the '50s and '60s," said Lipscomb, "and we believe that honoring these racing pioneers is long overdue." <a href="http://www5.smartadserver.com/ac?jump=1&nwid=1775&siteid=97808&pg name=home_ros&fmtid=39541&visit=m&tmstp=[timestamp]&out=nonrich" target="_blank">< img src="http://www5.smartadserver.com/ac?out=nonrich&nwid=1775&siteid=9780 8&pgname=home_ros&fmtid=39541&visit=m&tmstp=[timestamp]" border="0" alt=""/></a> In addition to the ceremony, the group will also be hosting a car show, which begins at 4PM. There will be food, entertainment, and dozens of classic cars from all around Ohio in attendance. The dedication itself will begin at 5PM, and features Ohio Lieutenant Governor Mary Taylor as the key note speaker. State Representative Greta Johnson, 35th House District, will also address the audience. Relatives of the former hot-rodders will be in attendance: Tim Arfons and Dusty Arfons-Spraggins (son and daughter of Art Arfons), Terry Arfons (son of Walt Arfons), Billy Smith (son of Otis Smith), and Craig Vanke (son of Arlen Vanke). Both of the Arfons, who are half-brothers, were early pioneers of fast vehicles. In 1964, a car designed by Walt Arfons, and driven by Tom Green, called the Wingfoot Express set the world land-speed record of 413 mph. Three days later, Art's jet-propelled Green Monster took the title with a speed of 434 mph. Then, in 1965, Art Arfons went on to set the world land-speed record of 576.553 mph. Art Arfons has been inducted into the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America, the International Drag Racing Hall of Fame, the International Motorsports Hall of Fame, the Ohio State Tractor Pullers Hall of Fame, the National Tractor Puller Hall of Fame, and the Summit County Sports Hall of Fame. Otis "Otie" Smith was another Akron hot rodding hero to come from Akron, Ohio. An early supporter of the National Hot Rod Association, Smith was running the regional NHRA races in his hometown before the nationals were even established, and he raced all over the Midwest, as well as Florida, Maine, and California. By his own estimation, he went on to compete in about 100 NHRA events in his 13-year career, which included being named the 1959 Middle Eliminator winner at the National Hot Rod Association Nationals in Detroit. In addition, he was the first president of the Akron Cam Jammers car club, and was the proprietor of Otie's Automotive in Kenmore, Ohio. Along with the Arfons and Smith, "Akron" Arlen Vanke was another local hot rodding legend. He won innumerable races in the Stock, Super Stock, and Pro Stock classes over the course of his career, and was hired by Chrysler while still racing to help test their performance technology. In 1971, he became a member of the United States Racing Team, an organization consisting of the top names in Pro Stock racing, which exhibited across the country until 1972. I remember Akron Arlen yelled at me for lighting up a cutting torch with in 50 feet of his Pro Stock car (1973) in a shop. He later apologies for yelling, but said don't do it again. Remember driving past Art Arfons shop to see if I could see anything they were working on. Larry (memories) - Cleveland

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Archive searching
by Kurt Byrnes 26 May '16

26 May '16

I've started looking into providing search capabilities to the archives. There are several utilities that have been tied into mailman that I'll look into. I'll get things setup so google can crawl the archives however I think they only crawl once a week so recent data wouldn't be available. I'm a bit swamped with real work so please be patient.

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There is no larger driving force in the U.S. Open Road Racing circuit today, than Dennis Antenucci.
by Nolan 26 May '16

26 May '16

This is a test. I was thinking about Dennis and wondering if my email to the list would bounce. Just think of Mad Dawg hammer down towards the fire extinguishers! http://www.ws6.com/image/aw01.gif Has anyone seen or heard from Mad Dawg lately? I still grin at memories of me & my nephew going on our "Kicking the Dawg" road trip many years ago. John Parson's had sold me the engine out of his Pantera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8RJLPlWEsI Along the way we got to meet MANY Pantera people from this list that came and said hello. Laurie Ferrari , Mad Dawg, Sweet Old Bill, Mike Drew, Tom Dupart.... What an amazing group; of friends we have here/ Thanks to all of you for the great memories. Nolan Scheid Owner/ Consultant | <http://mortarsprayer.com/> mortarsprayer.com 800.669.3272 | <mailto:nolan@mortarsprayer.com> nolan(a)mortarsprayer.com <https://www.facebook.com/MortarSprayer/app_107061516149542> Facebook | <http://twitter.com/mortarsprayer> Twitter | <http://www.linkedin.com/in/stuccotools> Linkedin email signature v 2 copy This is a test. I was thinking about Dennis and wondering if my email to the list would bounce. Just think of Mad Dawg hammer down towards the fire extinguishers! http://www.ws6.com/image/aw01.gif Has anyone seen or heard from Mad Dawg lately? I still grin at memories of me & my nephew going on our "Kicking the Dawg" road trip many years ago. John Parson's had sold me the engine out of his Pantera [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8RJLPlWEsI Along the way we got to meet MANY Pantera people from this list that came and said hello. Laurie Ferrari , Mad Dawg, Sweet Old Bill, Mike Drew, Tom Dupart.......... What an amazing group; of friends we have here/ Thanks to all of you for the great memories. Nolan Scheid Owner/ Consultant | [2]mortarsprayer.com 800.669.3272 | [3]nolan(a)mortarsprayer.com [4]Facebook | [5]Twitter | [6]Linkedin email signature v 2 copy References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8RJLPlWEsI 2. http://mortarsprayer.com/ 3. mailto:nolan@mortarsprayer.com 4. https://www.facebook.com/MortarSprayer/app_107061516149542 5. http://twitter.com/mortarsprayer 6. http://www.linkedin.com/in/stuccotools

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