[DeTomaso] Glue on mirror

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 25 13:30:36 EDT 2024 

I'd avoid the fumes, MEK seems like acetone on steroids.






On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 09:48:01 AM PDT, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote: 





  M.E.K - Methyl Ethyl Ketone solvent will soften and clean most
  adhesives. Available at your local hardware store unless you are in CA.

  Julian
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  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
  Terry Himes <terry.himes at pncnet.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 9:09 AM
  To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; michael frazier
  <red3644 at hotmail.com>; Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
  Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glue on mirror

  I know a chemical engineer.  He helped me soften and release a 2-part
  epoxy from glass.
  Worked like magic!!
  Just let me know what kind of glue, and I will contact him.
  On 6/25/24, 9:06 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
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  <[2]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
  I wonder if a chemical could be used to soften the glue?
  On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 05:40:30 AM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
  <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  <[3]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
  All,
  I'm in favor of any plan that doesn't harm the glass. Michael's plan
  may have merit assuming there was a means to restore them in the
  future.
  The one I have that was all scratched up had a mirror glued on with a
  wild type of black glue that refuses to give up. The mirror broke off
  leaving the base stuck. I spent some time with a hacksaw trying to
  carefully cut it off, and gave up about halfway through as the guy who
  said he wanted the glass changed his mind.
  It was hard work!
  Mike
  Sent from my iPhone
  > On Jun 25, 2024, at 05:09, michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com
  <[4]mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
  >
  > Two of my Panteras had the Omni mirrors attached with what appeared
  to be a thin layer of J-B weld or something similar. They never failed
  and I was able to VERY carefully remove them for a restoration. The
  glass was not scratched. I'd go with some like type of adhesive and a
  careful cleaning/degreasing first.
  > Michael
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >> On Jun 24, 2024, at 11:49 PM, Scott Mead
  <scott at scottmeadphotography.com
  <[5]mailto:scott at scottmeadphotography.com>> wrote:
  >>
  >> I highly recommend 3M Scotch-Weld 2216 epoxy adhesive. It's the same
  >> stuff they use on Apache helicopters. I used it to re-adhere the
  >> outside mirror on my Pantera (no glass etching required), and was
  >> tested to 130 MPH several times. Now if I ever want to get it off,
  >> well, let's not go there.
  >>
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  <[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
  >> Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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  >> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 9:24:46 PM
  >> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com <[8]mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>
  >> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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  >> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glue on mirror
  >>
  >> Argh, yes I do seem to recall that part. I'll check the glass
  tomorrow
  >> when I'm back in the shop. If the owner wishes to go with
  replacement
  >> (rough) glass, what kind of cost are we looking at?
  >> Thank you,
  >> Asa Jay
  >> Sent via radio waves
  >>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 20:09, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com
  <[10]mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> wrote:
  >>>
  >>> Asa,
  >>>
  >>> You have to deeply gouge the glass to produce a rough surface so
  the
  >> glue will stick to it.
  >>>
  >>> This then destroys the glass for future use.
  >>>
  >>> It's far better to buy pre-destroyed glass from people who have
  >> purchased cars with glue on mirrors and reverted to proper
  door-mounted
  >> mirrors, than it is to wreck yet another pair of windows....
  >>>
  >>> A PCNC member recently sold a pair of Omni mirrors and scratched
  >> windows, and others have them lying around. I do have one
  scratched-up
  >> side glass available that I got from a wrecked car where the other
  side
  >> broke.
  >>>
  >>> Mike
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Sent from my iPad
  >>>
  >>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 19:32, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
  >> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  <[11]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
  >>>>
  >>>> Hi all,
  >>>> During the first test drive of this friends Pantera, I nearly lost
  >> the driver side mirror at 45 mph. See photos.
  >>>>
  >>>> What is the best way to make this right?
  >>>>
  >>>> Thank you,
  >>>> Asa Jay
  >>>>
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