[DeTomaso] Glue on mirror
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 25 12:47:53 EDT 2024
M.E.K - Methyl Ethyl Ketone solvent will soften and clean most adhesives. Available at your local hardware store unless you are in CA.
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Terry Himes <terry.himes at pncnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 9:09 AM
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com>; Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glue on mirror
I know a chemical engineer. He helped me soften and release a 2-part epoxy from glass.
Worked like magic!!
Just let me know what kind of glue, and I will contact him.
On 6/25/24, 9:06 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
I wonder if a chemical could be used to soften the glue?
On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 05:40:30 AM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
All,
I’m in favor of any plan that doesn’t harm the glass. Michael’s plan may have merit assuming there was a means to restore them in the future.
The one I have that was all scratched up had a mirror glued on with a wild type of black glue that refuses to give up. The mirror broke off leaving the base stuck. I spent some time with a hacksaw trying to carefully cut it off, and gave up about halfway through as the guy who said he wanted the glass changed his mind.
It was hard work!
Mike
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> On Jun 25, 2024, at 05:09, michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com <mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Two of my Panteras had the Omni mirrors attached with what appeared to be a thin layer of J-B weld or something similar. They never failed and I was able to VERY carefully remove them for a restoration. The glass was not scratched. I’d go with some like type of adhesive and a careful cleaning/degreasing first.
> Michael
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>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 11:49 PM, Scott Mead <scott at scottmeadphotography.com <mailto:scott at scottmeadphotography.com>> wrote:
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>> I highly recommend 3M Scotch-Weld 2216 epoxy adhesive. It's the same
>> stuff they use on Apache helicopters. I used it to re-adhere the
>> outside mirror on my Pantera (no glass etching required), and was
>> tested to 130 MPH several times. Now if I ever want to get it off,
>> well, let's not go there.
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>> Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>>
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>> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glue on mirror
>>
>> Argh, yes I do seem to recall that part. I'll check the glass tomorrow
>> when I'm back in the shop. If the owner wishes to go with replacement
>> (rough) glass, what kind of cost are we looking at?
>> Thank you,
>> Asa Jay
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>>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 20:09, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Asa,
>>>
>>> You have to deeply gouge the glass to produce a rough surface so the
>> glue will stick to it.
>>>
>>> This then destroys the glass for future use.
>>>
>>> It's far better to buy pre-destroyed glass from people who have
>> purchased cars with glue on mirrors and reverted to proper door-mounted
>> mirrors, than it is to wreck yet another pair of windows....
>>>
>>> A PCNC member recently sold a pair of Omni mirrors and scratched
>> windows, and others have them lying around. I do have one scratched-up
>> side glass available that I got from a wrecked car where the other side
>> broke.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
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>>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 19:32, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> During the first test drive of this friends Pantera, I nearly lost
>> the driver side mirror at 45 mph. See photos.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to make this right?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Asa Jay
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M.E.K - Methyl Ethyl Ketone solvent will soften and clean most
adhesives. Available at your local hardware store unless you are in CA.
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Terry Himes <terry.himes at pncnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 9:09 AM
To: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; michael frazier
<red3644 at hotmail.com>; Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com>
Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glue on mirror
I know a chemical engineer. He helped me soften and release a 2-part
epoxy from glass.
Worked like magic!!
Just let me know what kind of glue, and I will contact him.
On 6/25/24, 9:06 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[2]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
I wonder if a chemical could be used to soften the glue?
On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 05:40:30 AM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[3]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
All,
I'm in favor of any plan that doesn't harm the glass. Michael's plan
may have merit assuming there was a means to restore them in the
future.
The one I have that was all scratched up had a mirror glued on with a
wild type of black glue that refuses to give up. The mirror broke off
leaving the base stuck. I spent some time with a hacksaw trying to
carefully cut it off, and gave up about halfway through as the guy who
said he wanted the glass changed his mind.
It was hard work!
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 25, 2024, at 05:09, michael frazier <red3644 at hotmail.com
<[4]mailto:red3644 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Two of my Panteras had the Omni mirrors attached with what appeared
to be a thin layer of J-B weld or something similar. They never failed
and I was able to VERY carefully remove them for a restoration. The
glass was not scratched. I'd go with some like type of adhesive and a
careful cleaning/degreasing first.
> Michael
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 11:49 PM, Scott Mead
<scott at scottmeadphotography.com
<[5]mailto:scott at scottmeadphotography.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I highly recommend 3M Scotch-Weld 2216 epoxy adhesive. It's the same
>> stuff they use on Apache helicopters. I used it to re-adhere the
>> outside mirror on my Pantera (no glass etching required), and was
>> tested to 130 MPH several times. Now if I ever want to get it off,
>> well, let's not go there.
>>
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>> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
<[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of
>> Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 9:24:46 PM
>> To: Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com <[8]mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>>
>> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Glue on mirror
>>
>> Argh, yes I do seem to recall that part. I'll check the glass
tomorrow
>> when I'm back in the shop. If the owner wishes to go with
replacement
>> (rough) glass, what kind of cost are we looking at?
>> Thank you,
>> Asa Jay
>> Sent via radio waves
>>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 20:09, Mike Drew <mikeldrew at aol.com
<[10]mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Asa,
>>>
>>> You have to deeply gouge the glass to produce a rough surface so
the
>> glue will stick to it.
>>>
>>> This then destroys the glass for future use.
>>>
>>> It's far better to buy pre-destroyed glass from people who have
>> purchased cars with glue on mirrors and reverted to proper
door-mounted
>> mirrors, than it is to wreck yet another pair of windows....
>>>
>>> A PCNC member recently sold a pair of Omni mirrors and scratched
>> windows, and others have them lying around. I do have one
scratched-up
>> side glass available that I got from a wrecked car where the other
side
>> broke.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 19:32, Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
>> <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[11]mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> During the first test drive of this friends Pantera, I nearly lost
>> the driver side mirror at 45 mph. See photos.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to make this right?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Asa Jay
>>>>
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