[DeTomaso] NPC but interesting, huge lithium deposit found in US
Don Thomas
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Sat Jul 6 16:58:24 EDT 2024
How Sodium-Ion Batteries May Challenge Lithium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQE56ksVBB4
-dt
On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 12:44 PM Ken Green via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> Julian,
>
> Is this the "solid state" you are referring to:
>
>
> https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/worlds-1st-anode-free-solid-state-battery
>
> Interesting, I hope someone in the US gets the patents and doesn't sell to
> China.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 6, 2024 at 09:46:41 AM PDT, Julian Kift <
> julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Lithium is a very abundant element, mostly recovered from brines e.g.
> the Salton Sea in CA is a large sources, Chile & Argentina also have
> large reserves. But Lithium is only a small percentage of current
> battery chemistry and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries are not
> economically recyclable yet as a regenerative source of lithium.
>
> The big battery manufacturers are all partnered with US OEM's and
> setting up production in the US with government funding. However, the
> EPA has such stringent conditions on handling mixed metal oxides, most
> of the recyclable materials will likely be forced back off shore for
> processing, thereby creating a constant reliance on other countries for
> battery materials.
>
> I do believe current battery chemistry will change to solid state and
> lithium will likely become redundant.
>
> Julian
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
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> US
>
> I have no interest in electric vehicles, but am fine with others buying
> them if my tax $s are not subsidizing them.
> I think China has scavenged mineral resource ownership all over the
> world, but if this is real, at least we won't be buying batteries from
> China;
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How Sodium-Ion Batteries May Challenge Lithium
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQE56ksVBB4
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On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 12:44a-PM Ken Green via DeTomaso
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Julian,
A A A Is this the "solid state" you are referring to:
[3]https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/worlds-1st-anode-fr
ee-solid-state-battery
Interesting, I hope someone in the US gets the patents and doesn't
sell to China.A
Ken
A A
On Saturday, July 6, 2024 at 09:46:41 AM PDT, Julian Kift
<[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A Ken,
A Lithium is a very abundant element, mostly recovered from brines
e.g.
A the Salton Sea in CA is a large sources, Chile & Argentina also
have
A large reserves. But Lithium is only a small percentage of current
A battery chemistry and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries are
not
A economically recyclable yet as a regenerative source of lithium.
A The big battery manufacturers are all partnered with US OEM's and
A setting up production in the US with government funding. However,
the
A EPA has such stringent conditions on handling mixed metal oxides,
most
A of the recyclable materials will likely be forced back off shore
for
A processing, thereby creating a constant reliance on other
countries for
A battery materials.
A I do believe current battery chemistry will change to solid state
and
A lithium will likely become redundant.
A Julian
A A
__________________________________________________________________
A From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
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A Ken Green via DeTomaso <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
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A Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC but interesting, huge lithium deposit
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A US
A I have no interest in electric vehicles, but am fine with others
buying
A them if my tax $s are not subsidizing them.
A I think China has scavenged mineral resource ownership all over
the
A world, but if this is real, at least we won't be buying batteries
from
A China;
A
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