[DeTomaso] Daytona Update
Asa Jay Laughton
asajay at asajay.com
Sat Nov 5 20:53:50 EDT 2022
Thumbs up, glad to hear it’s going well.
Asa Jay
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> On Nov 5, 2022, at 13:34, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
>
> Stage 1 done, started last and moved up a bit.A Tony drove moderately
> hard, turned our fastest lap of the weekend, we put in 5 gallons at the
> pit stop, and he finished moderately hard.A We did 18 laps, and pumped
> 8.5 gallons out when we were done.A So, we didn't need to fuel.A We
> had 3.5 gallons left.A So we will just pit and sit for our mandatory
> three minutes.
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 3:10 PM Charles Engles <[2]cengles at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
> A A A A A A Egad.A Your predicament makes current vintage
> racing resemble a chess game!.A Who knew it was so complicated?A
> A A A A A A Good luck.
> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck
> Engles
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Steve Lisa
> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2022 8:33 AM
> To: Scott Couchman
> Cc: MICHAEL DREW; List DeTomaso Forum
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Daytona Update
> An interesting strategy issue came up.A Our 19 gallon fuel cell
> actually (due to foam) only holds 18.5 gallons.A We are burning
> "about" 1 gallon per lap on average through the first 5 sessions of
> the weekend.A And, at our race pace, we will run at.most 19 laps in
> a session (with no cautions etc).
> We have a mandatory 3 minute pit stop each leg of the 24-hour, and
> the driver has to get out of the car for fueling.A There is about
> 40 seconds of pit lane "in-out" time, leaving about 2:20 for driver
> to stop, exit, the crew to fuel, and the driver to get back in, belt
> up and get going.A The Pantera is not set up for a dump can (as was
> not intended to run this 24-hour event).A It's a very slow fuel.A
> Plus, the driver cant be getting in the car while the crew is
> fueling.A Since I have issued at my age getting in over the driver
> bars and reaching belts etc., we figure I will need an extra 60-90
> seconds over the 3 minutes for an old fart like me to get out/back
> in the car and buckled up and going, in addition to fueling even a
> few gallons, plus pit in/out time. In short, we will lose the
> equivalent of average 4-5 seconds in average lap time for the
> session due to a pit stop over 3 minutes when I am driving.
> If we run our race pace, we will run 19.5 laps, surely running out
> of fuel if we don't add fuel at the stop.A If we slow down 3
> seconds a lap we will run 18 laps, and we should make it.A If we
> get a yellow, we are good.
> Our current decision is to run the first session at a reduced pace
> and not fuel it during the 3 minute stop, hopefully making it
> through with gas/car preservation mode.A Then, we will see what gas
> we have left after the first session (if we don't run out).A Even
> if we run out, we will lose at me at one lap ...less then screwing
> around with me getting in and out.
> But, our best guess is that we should make it, the car will be
> happier at the slower pace, and we will learn as we go, adjusting
> for the next three sessions if we continue to make it.
> On my son' Tony's stints, he can get in and out way faster than me,
> so we can cut him loose a bit and actually throw a few gallons in
> the car at the mandatory pit and not lose time.
> I guess that's another reason to go on a diet and start doing yoga.
> It's been fun trying to figure out last minute the move from the
> sprint races to the 24.
> The guys that finished this year at LeMans we're actually an
> inspiration for us moving the car to the 24.A It was an amazing run
> for them.A We hope to have good news tomorrow...
> Regards,
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
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>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 8:28 AM Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <
>> [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>> Mike, Thanks for setting the record straight, and congratulations
> to
>> these winners!
>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 8:36 PM, MICHAEL DREW <[6]mikeldrew at aol.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> i>>?a|and in fact, these guys:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> came in FIRST IN CLASS at Le Mans Classic this year, in a
> factory
>>> Gr4
>> car.
>>>
>>> Since the event started in 2004, far more than half the Panteras
>>> entered
>> have finished each year, on average. So it is highly disrespectful
> of
>> their collective efforts to claim that none have ever finished at
> all.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 22:15, MICHAEL DREW <[7]mikeldrew at aol.com>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i>>?Scott,
>>>>
>>>> You need to pay more attention! Plenty of Panteras have
> finished at
>>>> LMC
>> including this year.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 18:24, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <
>> [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i>>?All the LeMans Classics Iave attended, as far as I know,
> no
>>>>> Pantera
>> has finished the entire event. I hope you have much better
> success!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Mike & Elizabeth
>>>>>>> <[9]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i>>?Good luck!A Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
>>>>>> Mike Thomas
>>>>>> Panteras Northwest
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: DeTomaso <[10]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com>
> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>> Of Steve Lisa
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2022 10:50 AM
>>>>>> To: List DeTomaso Forum
> <[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Daytona Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have called the Pantera up to run the 24-hour race, taking
> the
>> place of the Panoz.A We were having issues with the new Panoz
> motor,
>> and the motor finally let fo.A So, are here and going to run the
>> Pantera in the Classic 24-hour instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pantera has already run 5 sessions this weekend in the
> HSR
>>>>>> Sprint
>> races, with it's fasted time at 2:11.5.A Because we didn't run
> the
>> qualifying events for the Classic 24-hour event we will be
> starting
>> from the back of Group A (pre-73, early FIA Group 3 and 4 cars, I
>> believe in the GTO class) for the Classic 24, which is fine for a
> long
>> event.A We will be driving conservatively with goal of finishing
> the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, Goodwood sent some reporters over from England
> to
>>>>>> cover
>> the Daytona event.A They enjoyed seeing the Pantera race, and
> filmed
>> the car on track and a fun 15 minute interview about the car.A
>> Goodwood also mounted an in-car camera for the upcoming 24-hour
> race.A
>> They are planning a short feature on the Pantera, which is really
> nice
>> of them, but who knows if it will ever get done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I will post updates and results starting tomorrow.A
> There
>>>>>> are
>> six groups, so we rotate out every six hours (i.e., four one-hour
>> races every six hours).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fingers crossed.....we are asked a lot from the car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>>>>>> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>>>>>> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
>>>>>> Direct: 480-442-0297
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [12]www.PatentIt.com
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