[DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?

Will Kooiman will.kooiman at gmail.com
Wed Jun 15 08:21:17 EDT 2022


Does anyone convert the original gauges to modern internals?

I'm converting back to the original Veglia gauges.  I forgot how far off they are.  The tach isn't even close.  Yes, I have the MSD square-sine wave converter, but with this setup, the tach is about 80% off.  Plus, the speedo is quite a bit off, due to different tire sizes.

I'd like a tach that's accurate and made to work with an MSD, plus an electronic or GPS speedo, plus mechanical gauges for temp/pressure.

Btw, I also have the sensor from Milwaukee Speedometer Service.  I was running an Autometer speedometer for quite a while.

I know about Classic Instruments.  That's who I was going to use.

On 6/14/22, 9:55 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

       Thats the thing I remembered! Thanks, Cory!
       J DeRyke
       -----Original Message-----
       From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
       To: jderyke at aol.com
       Cc: julian_kift at hotmail.com; GR2835 at comcast.net; willibillie at live.de;
       tipo874 at gmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
       fresnofinches at aol.com
       Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 6:13 pm
       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?
       Actually Milwaukee Spedometer Service makes (or made) a straight bolt
       on hall-effect sensor. I'm running one now. No right angle adapter.
       > On Jun 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
       <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
       >
       > i>>?  Ideally, Jon would come up with an electronic adapter of the
       correct
       >  pulse width that screwed onto the straight adapter on the ZF,
       bypassing
       >  the trouble-prone right angle adapter entirely. That would be ideal.
       >  -----Original Message-----
       >  From: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
       >  To: GERRY ROMACK <[3]gr2835 at comcast.net>; Roland Jaeckel
       >  <[4]willibillie at live.de>; Thomas TAP:rnblom <[5]tipo874 at gmail.com>
       >  Cc: Email List Address For Posting
       <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
       >  Larry Finch <[7]fresnofinches at aol.com>
       >  Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 1:57 pm
       >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the
       ZF?
       >    Assuming you are planning to replace the angle drive adapter, it
       >  should
       >    not be hard for an electrical wizard like John Haas to come up
       with a
       >    pulse conversion to adapt the output signal to get the Si speedo
       to
       >    read off in mph i.e. 100kmh now reads 100mph, signal requires
       x1.62
       >    factor increase.
       >    Alternately and perhaps easier, as the sender is mechanically
       driven
       >  by
       >    the angle drive you could insert a gear adapter that increases the
       >    output mechanical speed by 1.62.
       >    That way your Si Speedo is visually identical and an easy swap
       back
       >  to
       >    stock.
       >    Julian
       >
       __________________________________________________________________
       >    From: DeTomaso <[1][8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
       >  behalf of
       >    GERRY ROMACK <[2][9]gr2835 at comcast.net>
       >    Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 1:06 PM
       >    To: Roland Jaeckel <[3][10]willibillie at live.de>; Thomas Toernblom
       >    <[4][11]tipo874 at gmail.com>
       >    Cc: Email List Address For Posting
       >  <[5][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
       >    Larry Finch <[6][13]fresnofinches at aol.com>
       >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the
       ZF?
       >    My right angle adapter 5-0504 snapped the tabs off that screws
       into
       >  the
       >    ZF.
       >    My speedometer is electric with motor driven needle...NO CABLE.
       >    I would like to convert the 300 KPH speedo to MPH.....but the
       sender
       >    that screws onto the right angle adapter is a 2 wire 4 pulse
       Square
       >    wave sender.......all new 200 mph speedometers use 8 or 16 pulse
       VSS
       >    signal.....which is totally different. I would like to keep the
       >  Pantera
       >    90 Si looking original.
       >    Gerry
       >>> On 06/13/2022 12:37 PM Roland Jaeckel <[7][14]willibillie at live.de>
       >>  wrote:
       >>
       >>
       >> No, those i have are leftovers from the Pantera SI and electronic
       >    only.
       >>
       >>>    Am 13.06.2022 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas Toernblom
       >>    <[8][15]tipo874 at gmail.com>:
       >>
       >>  vss.jpeg
       >>> 13 juni 2022 kl. 20:55 skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso
       >>  <[9][16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
       >>>
       >>> Ken,
       >>>
       >>> Are you looking for something to generate a VSS signal while
       >>  retaining your cable driven Speedometer?
       >>>
       >>> I believe this is what Roland and Thomas are referencing. It
       >>  generates a HALL effect signal.  It generates a square wave with
       >    eight
       >>  pulses per revolution.
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
       >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
       >>  image0.jpeg
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
       >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
       >>  image1.jpeg
       >>>
       >>>
       >>> Or are you looking for something to eliminate the cable but
       >    retain
       >>  your OEM speedometer? I believe there are several vendors
       >  offering
       >    a
       >>  mechanical solution like this.
       >>>
       >>>
       >>>
       >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
       >>  image2.jpeg
       >>>
       >>>
       >>> I have one of the Ford VSS units available if you decide to go
       >    that
       >>  direction.
       >>>
       >>> Larry
       >>>
       >>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
       >>>
       >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
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