[DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?

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Tue Jun 14 21:55:04 EDT 2022


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From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
To: jderyke at aol.com
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Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?

Actually Milwaukee Spedometer Service makes (or made) a straight bolt on hall-effect sensor. I'm running one now. No right angle adapter. 



> On Jun 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>   Ideally, Jon would come up with an electronic adapter of the correct
>  pulse width that screwed onto the straight adapter on the ZF, bypassing
>  the trouble-prone right angle adapter entirely. That would be ideal.
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
>  To: GERRY ROMACK <gr2835 at comcast.net>; Roland Jaeckel
>  <willibillie at live.de>; Thomas TAP:rnblom <tipo874 at gmail.com>
>  Cc: Email List Address For Posting <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
>  Larry Finch <fresnofinches at aol.com>
>  Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 1:57 pm
>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?
>    Assuming you are planning to replace the angle drive adapter, it
>  should
>    not be hard for an electrical wizard like John Haas to come up with a
>    pulse conversion to adapt the output signal to get the Si speedo to
>    read off in mph i.e. 100kmh now reads 100mph, signal requires x1.62
>    factor increase.
>    Alternately and perhaps easier, as the sender is mechanically driven
>  by
>    the angle drive you could insert a gear adapter that increases the
>    output mechanical speed by 1.62.
>    That way your Si Speedo is visually identical and an easy swap back
>  to
>    stock.
>    Julian
>      __________________________________________________________________
>    From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
>  behalf of
>    GERRY ROMACK <[2]gr2835 at comcast.net>
>    Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 1:06 PM
>    To: Roland Jaeckel <[3]willibillie at live.de>; Thomas Toernblom
>    <[4]tipo874 at gmail.com>
>    Cc: Email List Address For Posting
>  <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
>    Larry Finch <[6]fresnofinches at aol.com>
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?
>    My right angle adapter 5-0504 snapped the tabs off that screws into
>  the
>    ZF.
>    My speedometer is electric with motor driven needle...NO CABLE.
>    I would like to convert the 300 KPH speedo to MPH.....but the sender
>    that screws onto the right angle adapter is a 2 wire 4 pulse Square
>    wave sender.......all new 200 mph speedometers use 8 or 16 pulse VSS
>    signal.....which is totally different. I would like to keep the
>  Pantera
>    90 Si looking original.
>    Gerry
>>> On 06/13/2022 12:37 PM Roland Jaeckel <[7]willibillie at live.de>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No, those i have are leftovers from the Pantera SI and electronic
>    only.
>> 
>>>    Am 13.06.2022 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas Toernblom
>>    <[8]tipo874 at gmail.com>:
>> 
>>  vss.jpeg
>>> 13 juni 2022 kl. 20:55 skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso
>>  <[9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
>>> 
>>> Ken,
>>> 
>>> Are you looking for something to generate a VSS signal while
>>  retaining your cable driven Speedometer?
>>> 
>>> I believe this is what Roland and Thomas are referencing. It
>>  generates a HALL effect signal.  It generates a square wave with
>    eight
>>  pulses per revolution.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
>>  image0.jpeg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
>>  image1.jpeg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Or are you looking for something to eliminate the cable but
>    retain
>>  your OEM speedometer? I believe there are several vendors
>  offering
>    a
>>  mechanical solution like this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
>>  image2.jpeg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have one of the Ford VSS units available if you decide to go
>    that
>>  direction.
>>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
>>> 
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   Thats the thing I remembered! Thanks, Cory!
   J DeRyke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Corey Price <coreyjprice at gmail.com>
   To: jderyke at aol.com
   Cc: julian_kift at hotmail.com; GR2835 at comcast.net; willibillie at live.de;
   tipo874 at gmail.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
   fresnofinches at aol.com
   Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 6:13 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the ZF?
   Actually Milwaukee Spedometer Service makes (or made) a straight bolt
   on hall-effect sensor. I'm running one now. No right angle adapter.
   > On Jun 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   >
   > i>>?  Ideally, Jon would come up with an electronic adapter of the
   correct
   >  pulse width that screwed onto the straight adapter on the ZF,
   bypassing
   >  the trouble-prone right angle adapter entirely. That would be ideal.
   >  -----Original Message-----
   >  From: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   >  To: GERRY ROMACK <[3]gr2835 at comcast.net>; Roland Jaeckel
   >  <[4]willibillie at live.de>; Thomas TAP:rnblom <[5]tipo874 at gmail.com>
   >  Cc: Email List Address For Posting
   <[6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
   >  Larry Finch <[7]fresnofinches at aol.com>
   >  Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 1:57 pm
   >  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the
   ZF?
   >    Assuming you are planning to replace the angle drive adapter, it
   >  should
   >    not be hard for an electrical wizard like John Haas to come up
   with a
   >    pulse conversion to adapt the output signal to get the Si speedo
   to
   >    read off in mph i.e. 100kmh now reads 100mph, signal requires
   x1.62
   >    factor increase.
   >    Alternately and perhaps easier, as the sender is mechanically
   driven
   >  by
   >    the angle drive you could insert a gear adapter that increases the
   >    output mechanical speed by 1.62.
   >    That way your Si Speedo is visually identical and an easy swap
   back
   >  to
   >    stock.
   >    Julian
   >
   __________________________________________________________________
   >    From: DeTomaso <[1][8]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   >  behalf of
   >    GERRY ROMACK <[2][9]gr2835 at comcast.net>
   >    Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 1:06 PM
   >    To: Roland Jaeckel <[3][10]willibillie at live.de>; Thomas Toernblom
   >    <[4][11]tipo874 at gmail.com>
   >    Cc: Email List Address For Posting
   >  <[5][12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
   >    Larry Finch <[6][13]fresnofinches at aol.com>
   >    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Source for electric speedo sender for the
   ZF?
   >    My right angle adapter 5-0504 snapped the tabs off that screws
   into
   >  the
   >    ZF.
   >    My speedometer is electric with motor driven needle...NO CABLE.
   >    I would like to convert the 300 KPH speedo to MPH.....but the
   sender
   >    that screws onto the right angle adapter is a 2 wire 4 pulse
   Square
   >    wave sender.......all new 200 mph speedometers use 8 or 16 pulse
   VSS
   >    signal.....which is totally different. I would like to keep the
   >  Pantera
   >    90 Si looking original.
   >    Gerry
   >>> On 06/13/2022 12:37 PM Roland Jaeckel <[7][14]willibillie at live.de>
   >>  wrote:
   >>
   >>
   >> No, those i have are leftovers from the Pantera SI and electronic
   >    only.
   >>
   >>>    Am 13.06.2022 um 21:20 schrieb Thomas Toernblom
   >>    <[8][15]tipo874 at gmail.com>:
   >>
   >>  vss.jpeg
   >>> 13 juni 2022 kl. 20:55 skrev Larry Finch via DeTomaso
   >>  <[9][16]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>:
   >>>
   >>> Ken,
   >>>
   >>> Are you looking for something to generate a VSS signal while
   >>  retaining your cable driven Speedometer?
   >>>
   >>> I believe this is what Roland and Thomas are referencing. It
   >>  generates a HALL effect signal.  It generates a square wave with
   >    eight
   >>  pulses per revolution.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
   >>  image0.jpeg
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
   >>  image1.jpeg
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> Or are you looking for something to eliminate the cable but
   >    retain
   >>  your OEM speedometer? I believe there are several vendors
   >  offering
   >    a
   >>  mechanical solution like this.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> !DSPAM:62a78811253192338627071!
   >>  image2.jpeg
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> I have one of the Ford VSS units available if you decide to go
   >    that
   >>  direction.
   >>>
   >>> Larry
   >>>
   >>> Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.
   >>>
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