[DeTomaso] Dropped Battery Solution for 6328
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I used the OEM ground cable attached to a bolt on the steering rack top cover. No holes drilled. I described my battery drop in a couple of POCA articles a decade or so ago, stating that the upgrade does not need a 'box', only a T-shaped crossmember between the lower subframes that also braces the lower front suspension, and no holes or cable extensions are needed.
You do need to pay attention to what battery you use. Dual-post batteries that have both top posts and side receptacles need the OEM hot cable & ground connected at the top and a 'shipping plug-disc' left in the hot side-receptacle. The battery, while well captured in place, will still move a little even with a flat bungee strap as a hold-down, and that hot point can possibly touch the sheet metal steering rack mount, causing a short.
Another important little part is an insulated cover for the top post hot battery cable clamp that serves to keep taller batteries from touching the fabricated battery well cover in large bumps, again causing a short.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: 'Detomaso List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2022 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dropped Battery Solution for 6328
Wondering where others have connected the ground cable? I drilled a
17/16 hole and used a stud with nuts on both sides, into the foot well
to attach the ground cable.
Ken
On Saturday, February 19, 2022, 02:18:00 PM PST, Mike & Elizabeth
<mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> wrote:
I thought I'd share what Doug Braun and I have come up with as a
solution to
a dropped battery for 6328 and 5505. We decided to go with more of an
open
design using 1 1/4" x 1/8" angle iron. The battery mock-up in the pics
is
of an Optima Yellow Top. The pieces underneath held in place with the
C-clamps will be welded to the rest of the battery frame, then the
assembly
will be bolted to the frame through those pieces with Rivnuts so it is
removable to R&R the steering rack. There will be threaded tabs of
angle
iron at each end of the inner battery tray for a tie down strap and an
additional piece of flat 2" iron under the battery to provide added
support.
A removable cover will be made to follow the contour of the trunk floor
and
the cables will all be run under the trunk to be out of sight. We'll
weld a
ground stud into the trunk out of the way in the back right corner and
run a
positive line from the battery to that location so I can hardwire a
connector/bung for a Ford Motorsports battery tender. That would also
be
where the car could be jumped if needed.
Mike Thomas
Panteras Northwest
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Elizabeth <[1]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:39 PM
To: 'Doug Braun' <[2]doug351c at gmail.com>
Subject: FW:
Fit check of the battery tray. Pretty snug in there, good thing it
will be
removable to put the steering rack in. We're going to add a piece of
flat
steel lengthwise across the opening under the battery.
Mike
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:07 PM
To: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <[4]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
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I used the OEM ground cable attached to a bolt on the steering rack top
cover. No holes drilled. I described my battery drop in a couple of
POCA articles a decade or so ago, stating that the upgrade does not
need a 'box', only a T-shaped crossmember between the lower subframes
that also braces the lower front suspension, and no holes or cable
extensions are needed.
You do need to pay attention to what battery you use. Dual-post
batteries that have both top posts and side receptacles need the OEM
hot cable & ground connected at the top and a 'shipping plug-disc' left
in the hot side-receptacle. The battery, while well captured in place,
will still move a little even with a flat bungee strap as a hold-down,
and that hot point can possibly touch the sheet metal steering rack
mount, causing a short.
Another important little part is an insulated cover for the top post
hot battery cable clamp that serves to keep taller batteries from
touching the fabricated battery well cover in large bumps, again
causing a short.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
To: 'Detomaso List' <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Mike &
Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 20, 2022 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dropped Battery Solution for 6328
Wondering where others have connected the ground cable? I drilled a
17/16 hole and used a stud with nuts on both sides, into the foot
well
to attach the ground cable.
Ken
On Saturday, February 19, 2022, 02:18:00 PM PST, Mike & Elizabeth
<[1]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> wrote:
I thought I'd share what Doug Braun and I have come up with as a
solution to
a dropped battery for 6328 and 5505. We decided to go with more of
an
open
design using 1 1/4" x 1/8" angle iron. The battery mock-up in the
pics
is
of an Optima Yellow Top. The pieces underneath held in place with
the
C-clamps will be welded to the rest of the battery frame, then the
assembly
will be bolted to the frame through those pieces with Rivnuts so it
is
removable to R&R the steering rack. There will be threaded tabs of
angle
iron at each end of the inner battery tray for a tie down strap and
an
additional piece of flat 2" iron under the battery to provide added
support.
A removable cover will be made to follow the contour of the trunk
floor
and
the cables will all be run under the trunk to be out of sight. We'll
weld a
ground stud into the trunk out of the way in the back right corner
and
run a
positive line from the battery to that location so I can hardwire a
connector/bung for a Ford Motorsports battery tender. That would
also
be
where the car could be jumped if needed.
Mike Thomas
Panteras Northwest
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Elizabeth <[1][2]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:39 PM
To: 'Doug Braun' <[2][3]doug351c at gmail.com>
Subject: FW:
Fit check of the battery tray. Pretty snug in there, good thing it
will be
removable to put the steering rack in. We're going to add a piece of
flat
steel lengthwise across the opening under the battery.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Thomas <[3][4]panteramike74 at icloud.com>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 5:07 PM
To: Mike & Elizabeth Thomas <[4][5]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>
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