[DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT

Rich Hoppe richbhoppe at gmail.com
Sun Apr 10 15:23:12 EDT 2022


My concern is someone will steal another pantera and do a vin swap.

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> On Apr 10, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Even as a parts doner I don't think you'd get your money back.  I'd hate to see what the ZF looks like inside.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> On Behalf Of Will Kooiman
> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2022 9:28 PM
> To: gt40 at sbcglobal.net; Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; Bill Cartus <bcartus at yahoo.com>; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT
> 
> Agreed.  Stupidest number I've seen.  The buyer is in for a very rude awakening.
> 
> On 4/9/22, 11:27 PM, "gt40 at sbcglobal.net" <gt40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>    Pure Insanity! The numbers DON'T work!
> 
>    John
> 
>    -----Original Message----- 
>    From: Ken Green via DeTomaso
>    Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2022 1:50 PM
>    To: Bill Cartus ; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com ; Will Kooiman
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 1972 Project Car on BaT
> 
>    It sold for $33,333.
>    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-77/
>    I have 2 projects one nearly done, the other is stripped and needs metal 
>    repair but nothing like the one that just sold.  Looks like time to sell it.
> 
>    I remember how cheap the cars we like were into the early 70's and then 
>    prices exploded due to inflation.
> 
>    Ken
> 
> 
> 
>        On Saturday, April 9, 2022, 01:13:21 PM PDT, Will Kooiman 
>    <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>    Wow.  I don't think I've seen a bigger rust bucket.  It has rust holes in 
>    the roof and floor, so at least the rain can go all the way through.  The 
>    only parts that don't look rusted are the glass, and maybe the rubber.
> 
>    I thought it might be a good candidate to rebody - GT5-S or one of those car 
>    shows where they turn it into a Frankenstein.  But man - everything is 
>    rusted.
> 
>    That's the first time I've seen an engine access cover that looked like 
>    that.  Is that from an early car?
> 
>    On 4/7/22, 6:35 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Bill Cartus via DeTomaso" 
>    <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of 
>    detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> 
>          Everyone, the 'rust bucket' project '72 Pantera currently listed on
>          BringATrailer is near me in the Atlanta area.  I am trying to arrange 
>    a
>          visit to see the car even though the seller is on vacation.  If anyone
>          is interested in me looking for something specific or a picture that
>          was not provided on BaT, please email me (bcartus at yahoo.com) soon. 
>    I'm
>          not interested in this car for myself, but will assist POCA folks that
>          might be.
>          Bill Cartus
>          #3633
> 
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>          Subject: [DeTomaso] GM 12SI Alternator Connection ???
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>          Guys,
>          Stumbling thru this "very easy" conversion......with absolutely no
>          instructions other than for mounting the new AC pump/alt bracket.????
>          Everything after that is free??? Free to find it wherever you
>          can.......?? I'll stop here for the moment.
>          Back history: I am removing a 130Amp Ford 3G alternator and installing
>          a 97A GM 12si version.?? No, I do not need all the amperage.......no
>          EFI, no big stereo.....
>          SO, down to the two terminals on the alternator.? #1 and #2.??? Bat+ 
>    is
>          pretty evident.......duh!
>          This is what I can glean from Google, but who knows how good their
>          search is these days....since I'm not looking to buy
>          anything.....grrrrr.....? I have this:
>          Terminal #1 appears to be for the dash lamp and will connect to the
>          Blue/Black(Stripe) wire formerly on the voltage regulator term "I" and
>          this needs to be "Key ON" not 100% of the time or it will drain your
>          battery......albeit slowly.???
>          Terminal #2 is the Voltage Sense and can be connected 100% of the time
>          (or Key ON only if you like) which I believe is a Yellow wire, 
>    terminal
>          "A" from the old harness.
>          Regulator Terminals? S (Green/Red stripe) & F (Orange) are no longer
>          used. (internal stator windings and control)
>          If anyone can give me a thumbs up on this, it would come in handy 
>    about
>          now.
>          Now I just need to find the damned new pigtail connector that I bought
>          a couple of days back, before I started tearing my car apart!!!??? 
>    It's
>          around here somewhere......? and I'm rearranging components on my
>          starter solenoid/coil panel to boot.? Need new room for heater hose
>          support and my inline rust filter!? I don't want my heater hoses 
>    laying
>          on the alternator!
>          Thanks in advance!
>          Steve
>          -------------- next part --------------
>            Guys,
>            Stumbling thru this "very easy" conversion.....with absolutely no
>            instructions other than for mounting the new AC pump/alt bracket.
>            Everything after that is free?  Free to find it wherever you
>            can.......  I'll stop here for the moment.
>            Back history: I am removing a 130Amp Ford 3G alternator and
>          installing
>            a 97A GM 12si version.  No, I do not need all the amperage.......no
>            EFI, no big stereo.....
>            SO, down to the two terminals on the alternator  #1 and #2.    Bat+
>          is
>            pretty evident.......duh!
>            This is what I can glean from Google, but who knows how good their
>            search is these days....since I'm not looking to buy
>            anything.....grrrrr.....  I have this:
>            Terminal #1 appears to be for the dash lamp and will connect to the
>            Blue/Black(Stripe) wire formerly on the voltage regulator term "I"
>          and
>            this needs to be "Key ON" not 100% of the time or it will drain your
>            battery......albeit slowly.
>            Terminal #2 is the Voltage Sense and can be connected 100% of the
>          time
>            (or Key ON only if you like) which I believe is a Yellow wire,
>          terminal
>            "A" from the old harness.
>            Regulator Terminals  S (Green/Red stripe) & F (Orange) are no longer
>            used. (internal stator windings and control)
>            If anyone can give me a thumbs up on this, it would come in handy
>          about
>            now.
>            Now I just need to find the damned new pigtail connector that I
>          bought
>            a couple of days back, before I started tearing my car apart!!!
>          It's
>            around here somewhere......  and I'm rearranging components on my
>            starter solenoid/coil panel to boot.  Need new room for heater hose
>            support and my inline rust filter!  I don't want my heater hoses
>          laying
>            on the alternator!
>            Thanks in advance!
>            Steve
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