[DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race

Steve Lisa stevelisa at patentit.com
Fri Sep 17 13:11:02 EDT 2021


Yes. Absolutely.  We now have 5-6 races on it and we were already planning
on it going to our transaxle specialist for an inspection and tune-up.
Thanks for the note!!!

Regards,

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 2:52 AM Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Just catching up with list emails, I would conduct a thorough bench test
> and check of the ZF, locking up in that manner puts a lot of stress on the
> input shaft and gears.
>
> Julian
> ------------------------------
> *From:* DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:59 PM
> *To:* Jack DeRyke <jderyke at aol.com>
> *Cc:* detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>;
> garth_rodericks at yahoo.com <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
>
> Jack,
>
> I couldn't believe the mess that clutch made.  It was a very impressive
> amount of crap that got out of the view port.  Most clutch explosions I
> have seen involve more parts flinging about.  I was also impressed with the
> instantaneous lock and spin.  We were lucky indeed -- 3 seconds earlier and
> he would have spun on the straightaway at max speed and likely into the
> wall.
>
> We believe the engine is fine -- Tony was able to start it with the starter
> in gear and then drove it back to the paddock locked in first gear.  So, we
> also believe the transaxle is fine.  I am anxious to get it all out and
> make sure it is fine.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
> Direct: 480-442-0297
>
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> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > That's the second oddball clutch failure I've heard of with Panteras. One
> > friend was driving sedately around town, and leaving a stoplight, the
> > engine suddenly revved to the moon. A tow truck ride home and pulling the
> > powertrain showed the weld that attaches the disc spline to the main disc
> > had sheared. You're just lucky is all, Steve!
> > Cheers- J DeRyke
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> > To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Garth
> > Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2021 12:33 pm
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
> >
> >   Hi Steve,
> >
> >   If you were using the clutch I had in there when you bought the car, it
> >   was a McLeod 360505.  Look at it starting on page 2 at the bottom and
> >   then more on page 3.
> >
> >   [1]https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
> >
> >   Asa Jay
> >   Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >     On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:24, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> >     wrote:
> >
> >     Thanks, all for the congrats. I hope to get the video up in the next
> >     few weeks.A A
> >     Also, for those asking for more information about the clutch
> >   type/model
> >     -- the Pantera is still in the trailer as it is basically still ready
> >     for the next event minus the clutch change.A  In the meantime, we are
> >     working on getting the Panoz ready for the Historic 24 (complete
> >     rebuild) and testing.A  Once we get it out of the trailer and in the
> >     shop, I will let back to you with the clutch type.A  I am a bit
> >     embarrassed to say that I don't know what we have/had in there.A A
> >     For the guys up at the Silver State -- best of luck, and stay safe!
> >     Regards,A
> >     Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> >     The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> >     Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
> >     Direct: 480-442-0297
> >     [1]www.PatentIt.com
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> >   E.
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> >   Thank
> >     you.
> >     On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Garth Rodericks
> >     <[2]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >     Congrats on winning with the Winston Cup car, and sorry to hear about
> >     your clutch failure.A  But glad everyone, including the car, is ok!
> >     Can't wait to see the video of that rear wheel lockup and subsequent
> >     spin!A  No doubt some exciting footage!A  :)
> >     Cheers!
> >     Garth
> >     #4033
> >   References
> >     1. http://www.patentit.com/
> >     2. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
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> > https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
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   Yes. Absolutely.A  We now have 5-6 races on it and we wereA already
   planning on it going to our transaxle specialist for an inspection and
   tune-up.A  Thanks for the note!!!
   Regards,A
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
   Direct: 480-442-0297
   [1]www.PatentIt.com
   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260

   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.

   On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 2:52 AM Julian Kift
   <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

   Just catching up with list emails, I would conduct a thorough bench
   test and check of the ZF, locking up in that manner puts a lot of
   stress on the input shaft and gears.
   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:59 PM
   To: Jack DeRyke <[5]jderyke at aol.com>
   Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; [8]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
   <[9]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
   A
   Jack,
   I couldn't believe the mess that clutch made.A  It was a very
   impressive
   amount of crap that got out of the view port.A  Most clutch explosions
   I
   have seen involve more parts flinging about.A  I was also impressed
   with the
   instantaneous lock and spin.A  We were lucky indeed -- 3 seconds
   earlier and
   he would have spun on the straightaway at max speed and likely into the
   wall.
   We believe the engine is fine -- Tony was able to start it with the
   starter
   in gear and then drove it back to the paddock locked in first gear.A
   So, we
   also believe the transaxle is fine.A  I am anxious to get it all out
   and
   make sure it is fine.
   Regards,
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   *The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 480-442-0297
   [10]www.PatentIt.com <[11]http://www.patentit.com/>
   *Scottsdale Office* | *P*: 480.535.6656A  |A  *F:* 480.535.6628A  |A
   *A:* 7689
   East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
   *Chicago Office *|* P:* 312.752.4357A  |A  *F:* 312.896.5633A  |A  *A:*
   55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
   you.
   On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM <[12]jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
   > That's the second oddball clutch failure I've heard of with Panteras.
   One
   > friend was driving sedately around town, and leaving a stoplight, the
   > engine suddenly revved to the moon. A tow truck ride home and pulling
   the
   > powertrain showed the weld that attaches the disc spline to the main
   disc
   > had sheared. You're just lucky is all, Steve!
   > Cheers- J DeRyke
   >
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
   <[13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   > To: Steve Lisa <[14]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   > Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[15]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Garth
   > Rodericks <[16]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   > Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2021 12:33 pm
   > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
   >
   >A A  Hi Steve,
   >
   >A A  If you were using the clutch I had in there when you bought the
   car, it
   >A A  was a McLeod 360505.A  Look at it starting on page 2 at the
   bottom and
   >A A  then more on page 3.
   >
   >A A
   [1][17]https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?pag
   e=2
   >
   >A A  Asa Jay
   >A A  Sent from my iPhone
   >
   >A A A A  On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:24, Steve Lisa
   <[18]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   >A A A A  wrote:
   >
   >A A A A  Thanks, all for the congrats. I hope to get the video up in
   the next
   >A A A A  few weeks.A A
   >A A A A  Also, for those asking for more information about the clutch
   >A A  type/model
   >A A A A  -- the Pantera is still in the trailer as it is basically
   still ready
   >A A A A  for the next event minus the clutch change.AA  In the
   meantime, we are
   >A A A A  working on getting the Panoz ready for the Historic 24
   (complete
   >A A A A  rebuild) and testing.AA  Once we get it out of the trailer
   and in the
   >A A A A  shop, I will let back to you with the clutch type.AA  I am a
   bit
   >A A A A  embarrassed to say that I don't know what we have/had in
   there.A A
   >A A A A  For the guys up at the Silver State -- best of luck, and stay
   safe!
   >A A A A  Regards,A
   >A A A A  Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   >A A A A  The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   >A A A A  Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
   >A A A A  Direct: 480-442-0297
   >A A A A  [1][19]www.PatentIt.com
   >A A A A  Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656AA  |A A F:A
   480.535.6628A
   >A A A A  |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ
   85260
   >A A A A  Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357AA  |AA  F: 312.896.5633AA
   |AA  A: 55
   >A A  E.
   >A A A A  Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   >A A A A  This email is intended only for the recipient above and may
   contain
   >A A A A  confidential and privileged information. If you received this
   email
   >A A  in
   >A A A A  error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to
   me.
   >A A  Thank
   >A A A A  you.
   >A A A A  On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Garth Rodericks
   >A A A A  <[2][20]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
   >A A A A  Congrats on winning with the Winston Cup car, and sorry to
   hear about
   >A A A A  your clutch failure.AA  But glad everyone, including the car,
   is ok!
   >A A A A  Can't wait to see the video of that rear wheel lockup and
   subsequent
   >A A A A  spin!AA  No doubt some exciting footage!AA  :)
   >A A A A  Cheers!
   >A A A A  Garth
   >A A A A  #4033
   >A A  References
   >A A A A  1. [21]http://www.patentit.com/
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