[DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
Julian Kift
julian_kift at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 17 05:52:14 EDT 2021
Just catching up with list emails, I would conduct a thorough bench test and check of the ZF, locking up in that manner puts a lot of stress on the input shaft and gears.
Julian
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:59 PM
To: Jack DeRyke <jderyke at aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
Jack,
I couldn't believe the mess that clutch made. It was a very impressive
amount of crap that got out of the view port. Most clutch explosions I
have seen involve more parts flinging about. I was also impressed with the
instantaneous lock and spin. We were lucky indeed -- 3 seconds earlier and
he would have spun on the straightaway at max speed and likely into the
wall.
We believe the engine is fine -- Tony was able to start it with the starter
in gear and then drove it back to the paddock locked in first gear. So, we
also believe the transaxle is fine. I am anxious to get it all out and
make sure it is fine.
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
*The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
> That's the second oddball clutch failure I've heard of with Panteras. One
> friend was driving sedately around town, and leaving a stoplight, the
> engine suddenly revved to the moon. A tow truck ride home and pulling the
> powertrain showed the weld that attaches the disc spline to the main disc
> had sheared. You're just lucky is all, Steve!
> Cheers- J DeRyke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Garth
> Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2021 12:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> If you were using the clutch I had in there when you bought the car, it
> was a McLeod 360505. Look at it starting on page 2 at the bottom and
> then more on page 3.
>
> [1]https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
>
> Asa Jay
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:24, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, all for the congrats. I hope to get the video up in the next
> few weeks.A A
> Also, for those asking for more information about the clutch
> type/model
> -- the Pantera is still in the trailer as it is basically still ready
> for the next event minus the clutch change.A In the meantime, we are
> working on getting the Panoz ready for the Historic 24 (complete
> rebuild) and testing.A Once we get it out of the trailer and in the
> shop, I will let back to you with the clutch type.A I am a bit
> embarrassed to say that I don't know what we have/had in there.A A
> For the guys up at the Silver State -- best of luck, and stay safe!
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
> Direct: 480-442-0297
> [1]www.PatentIt.com
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> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Garth Rodericks
> <[2]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Congrats on winning with the Winston Cup car, and sorry to hear about
> your clutch failure.A But glad everyone, including the car, is ok!
> Can't wait to see the video of that rear wheel lockup and subsequent
> spin!A No doubt some exciting footage!A :)
> Cheers!
> Garth
> #4033
> References
> 1. http://www.patentit.com/
> 2. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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Just catching up with list emails, I would conduct a thorough bench
test and check of the ZF, locking up in that manner puts a lot of
stress on the input shaft and gears.
Julian
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:59 PM
To: Jack DeRyke <jderyke at aol.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
<garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
Jack,
I couldn't believe the mess that clutch made. It was a very impressive
amount of crap that got out of the view port. Most clutch explosions I
have seen involve more parts flinging about. I was also impressed with
the
instantaneous lock and spin. We were lucky indeed -- 3 seconds earlier
and
he would have spun on the straightaway at max speed and likely into the
wall.
We believe the engine is fine -- Tony was able to start it with the
starter
in gear and then drove it back to the paddock locked in first gear.
So, we
also believe the transaxle is fine. I am anxious to get it all out and
make sure it is fine.
Regards,
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
*The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC*
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 480-442-0297
[1]www.PatentIt.com <[2]http://www.patentit.com/>
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7689
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:
> That's the second oddball clutch failure I've heard of with Panteras.
One
> friend was driving sedately around town, and leaving a stoplight, the
> engine suddenly revved to the moon. A tow truck ride home and pulling
the
> powertrain showed the weld that attaches the disc spline to the main
disc
> had sheared. You're just lucky is all, Steve!
> Cheers- J DeRyke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Garth
> Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2021 12:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> If you were using the clutch I had in there when you bought the
car, it
> was a McLeod 360505. Look at it starting on page 2 at the bottom
and
> then more on page 3.
>
>
[1]https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
>
> Asa Jay
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:24, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, all for the congrats. I hope to get the video up in the
next
> few weeks.A A
> Also, for those asking for more information about the clutch
> type/model
> -- the Pantera is still in the trailer as it is basically still
ready
> for the next event minus the clutch change.A In the meantime, we
are
> working on getting the Panoz ready for the Historic 24 (complete
> rebuild) and testing.A Once we get it out of the trailer and in
the
> shop, I will let back to you with the clutch type.A I am a bit
> embarrassed to say that I don't know what we have/had in there.A
A
> For the guys up at the Silver State -- best of luck, and stay
safe!
> Regards,A
> Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
> The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
> Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
> Direct: 480-442-0297
> [1]www.PatentIt.com
> Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
> |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
> Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A |A F: 312.896.5633A |A A:
55
> E.
> Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
> This email is intended only for the recipient above and may
contain
> confidential and privileged information. If you received this
email
> in
> error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me.
> Thank
> you.
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Garth Rodericks
> <[2]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Congrats on winning with the Winston Cup car, and sorry to hear
about
> your clutch failure.A But glad everyone, including the car, is
ok!
> Can't wait to see the video of that rear wheel lockup and
subsequent
> spin!A No doubt some exciting footage!A :)
> Cheers!
> Garth
> #4033
> References
> 1. [3]http://www.patentit.com/
> 2. [4]mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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