[DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race

Steve Lisa stevelisa at patentit.com
Wed Sep 15 15:59:56 EDT 2021


Jack,

I couldn't believe the mess that clutch made.  It was a very impressive
amount of crap that got out of the view port.  Most clutch explosions I
have seen involve more parts flinging about.  I was also impressed with the
instantaneous lock and spin.  We were lucky indeed -- 3 seconds earlier and
he would have spun on the straightaway at max speed and likely into the
wall.

We believe the engine is fine -- Tony was able to start it with the starter
in gear and then drove it back to the paddock locked in first gear.  So, we
also believe the transaxle is fine.  I am anxious to get it all out and
make sure it is fine.


Regards,

Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM <jderyke at aol.com> wrote:

> That's the second oddball clutch failure I've heard of with Panteras. One
> friend was driving sedately around town, and leaving a stoplight, the
> engine suddenly revved to the moon. A tow truck ride home and pulling the
> powertrain showed the weld that attaches the disc spline to the main disc
> had sheared. You're just lucky is all, Steve!
> Cheers- J DeRyke
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> To: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
> Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Garth
> Rodericks <garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2021 12:33 pm
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
>
>   Hi Steve,
>
>   If you were using the clutch I had in there when you bought the car, it
>   was a McLeod 360505.  Look at it starting on page 2 at the bottom and
>   then more on page 3.
>
>   [1]https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
>
>   Asa Jay
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:24, Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
>     wrote:
>
>     Thanks, all for the congrats. I hope to get the video up in the next
>     few weeks.A A
>     Also, for those asking for more information about the clutch
>   type/model
>     -- the Pantera is still in the trailer as it is basically still ready
>     for the next event minus the clutch change.A  In the meantime, we are
>     working on getting the Panoz ready for the Historic 24 (complete
>     rebuild) and testing.A  Once we get it out of the trailer and in the
>     shop, I will let back to you with the clutch type.A  I am a bit
>     embarrassed to say that I don't know what we have/had in there.A A
>     For the guys up at the Silver State -- best of luck, and stay safe!
>     Regards,A
>     Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
>     The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
>     Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
>     Direct: 480-442-0297
>     [1]www.PatentIt.com
>     Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
>     |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
>     Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55
>   E.
>     Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
>     This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
>     confidential and privileged information. If you received this email
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>     error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me.
>   Thank
>     you.
>     On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Garth Rodericks
>     <[2]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
>     Congrats on winning with the Winston Cup car, and sorry to hear about
>     your clutch failure.A  But glad everyone, including the car, is ok!
>     Can't wait to see the video of that rear wheel lockup and subsequent
>     spin!A  No doubt some exciting footage!A  :)
>     Cheers!
>     Garth
>     #4033
>   References
>     1. http://www.patentit.com/
>     2. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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   Jack,A
   I couldn't believeA the mess that clutch made.A  It was a very
   impressive amount of crap thatA got out of theA view port.A  Most
   clutch explosions I have seen involve more parts flinging about.A  I
   was also impressed with the instantaneous lock and spin.A  We were
   lucky indeed -- 3 seconds earlier and he would have spun on the
   straightaway at max speed and likely into the wall.A A
   We believe the engine is fine -- Tony was able to start it with the
   starter in gear and then drove it back to the paddock locked in first
   gear.A  So, we also believe the transaxle is fine.A  I am anxious to
   get it all out and make sure it is fine.A A
   A A
   Regards,A
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
   Direct: 480-442-0297
   [1]www.PatentIt.com
   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260

   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   This email is intended only for the recipient above and may contain
   confidential and privileged information. If you received this email in
   error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank
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   On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM <[2]jderyke at aol.com> wrote:

   That's the second oddball clutch failure I've heard of with Panteras.
   One friend was driving sedately around town, and leaving a stoplight,
   the engine suddenly revved to the moon. A tow truck ride home and
   pulling the powertrain showed the weld that attaches the disc spline to
   the main disc had sheared. You're just lucky is all, Steve!
   Cheers- J DeRyke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso
   <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   To: Steve Lisa <[4]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Cc: DeTomaso Mail List <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>; Garth
   Rodericks <[6]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com>
   Sent: Wed, Sep 15, 2021 12:33 pm
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Update from Portland Race
   A  Hi Steve,
   A  If you were using the clutch I had in there when you bought the car,
   it
   A  was a McLeod 360505.A  Look at it starting on page 2 at the bottom
   and
   A  then more on page 3.
   A
   [1][7]https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page
   =2
   A  Asa Jay
   A  Sent from my iPhone
   A  A  On Sep 15, 2021, at 11:24, Steve Lisa <[8]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   A  A  wrote:
   A  A  Thanks, all for the congrats. I hope to get the video up in the
   next
   A  A  few weeks.A A
   A  A  Also, for those asking for more information about the clutch
   A  type/model
   A  A  -- the Pantera is still in the trailer as it is basically still
   ready
   A  A  for the next event minus the clutch change.AA  In the meantime,
   we are
   A  A  working on getting the Panoz ready for the Historic 24 (complete
   A  A  rebuild) and testing.AA  Once we get it out of the trailer and in
   the
   A  A  shop, I will let back to you with the clutch type.AA  I am a bit
   A  A  embarrassed to say that I don't know what we have/had in there.A
   A
   A  A  For the guys up at the Silver State -- best of luck, and stay
   safe!
   A  A  Regards,A
   A  A  Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   A  A  The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
   A  A  Email: [9]SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
   A  A  Direct: 480-442-0297
   A  A  [1][10]www.PatentIt.com
   A  A  Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656AA  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
   A  A  |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260
   A  A  Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357AA  |AA  F: 312.896.5633AA
   |AA  A: 55
   A  E.
   A  A  Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   A  A  This email is intended only for the recipient above and may
   contain
   A  A  confidential and privileged information. If you received this
   email
   A  in
   A  A  error please destroy it and indicate such by return email to me.
   A  Thank
   A  A  you.
   A  A  On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:11 AM Garth Rodericks
   A  A  <[2][11]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com> wrote:
   A  A  Congrats on winning with the Winston Cup car, and sorry to hear
   about
   A  A  your clutch failure.AA  But glad everyone, including the car, is
   ok!
   A  A  Can't wait to see the video of that rear wheel lockup and
   subsequent
   A  A  spin!AA  No doubt some exciting footage!AA  :)
   A  A  Cheers!
   A  A  Garth
   A  A  #4033
   A  References
   A  A  1. [12]http://www.patentit.com/
   A  A  2. mailto:[13]garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
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References

   1. http://www.patentit.com/
   2. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
   5. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   6. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
   7. https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
   8. mailto:stevelisa at patentit.com
   9. mailto:SteveLisa at PatentIt.comA
  10. http://www.PatentIt.com/
  11. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
  12. http://www.patentit.com/
  13. mailto:garth_rodericks at yahoo.com
  14. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  15. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  16. https://teampanteraracing.com/gallery3/asajay/pantera/clutch?page=2
  17. mailto:DeTomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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