[DeTomaso] Pantera down

[Will Kooiman]

Damnit.  I wish I were there.

It really sucks to break, but as others have said that's racing.

Still, I'd rather be on a track and break something than be at home, doing the 9-5 in my home office.

The last time I went to the track, was one of the few times I haven't broken something.  I boiled my brake fluid, and ran right on the edge of brake fade, but everything held together.  That's on my street driven Viper.

You are an inspiration.  Be safe.


On 10/27/21, 6:14 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry Stock" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

       We get it, under 2 minutes is a great time



       From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
       Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 2:37 PM
       To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
       Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
       Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera down


       I meant to say 1:58.3 lap time ....not 158.3


       On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 17:10 Steve Lisa <[1]stevelisa at patentit.com>
       wrote:

       I am not sure....we had a spike in oil pressure that made us think it
       was a rod bearing...but it was only a few seconds then stabilized for a
       few laps.  Then, we blew up next session with a rod cap sticking out
       the pan. So, we thing we started with a main going bad that vibrated
       the rod end bolt out.  In the meantime, the  Panoz turned it's fasted
       lap yet at Daytona 158.3 with 178 top speed.  So we are focused in it
       now.  We are just going to wait til we get home to diagnose the issue
       with Pantera.


       Frankly, we had a crap motor builder for a while, and this Clevor
       bottom end was built by him.  We had it "looked at" by our current
       motor builder while our true Cleveland race motor was getting built,
       and he freshened the top end but not the bottom which he held his nose
       for.  So this is the last of our crap from that old builder, and it
       went out with a bang.


       I am pissed , but that is racing and we have another car to focus on
       and a reason to get the proper Cleveland and exhaust in.


       By the way, the Pantera was a crowd pleaser and handling quite well.
       What a shame.



       On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 16:49 Larry Stock <[2]larrys at panteraparts.com>
       wrote:

         Bummer Dude,
         I have spun many a rod bearing, but never a Main Bearing, are you
         sure about that?
         Larry
         On 10/27/21, 1:11 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa"
         <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
         [4]stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
                All,
                Pantera spun a main bearing the lost a connecting rod, with
         expected
                results.A  We are down for the weekend.A A
                We had a spike in oil pressure, which then equalized at 55
         psi and 250
                degrees.A  The next session we lost the engine. Rev minter
         was set at
                6000A A
                For what it's worth, top speed on on our lap it 160 mph.A  I
         am trying
                to get a pic for you of the rid hanging out the pan.
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