[DeTomaso] Pantera down

[Larry Stock]

We get it, under 2 minutes is a great time

 

 

From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 2:37 PM
To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera down

 

I meant to say 1:58.3 lap time ....not 158.3

 

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 17:10 Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:

I am not sure....we had a spike in oil pressure that made us think it was a rod bearing...but it was only a few seconds then stabilized for a few laps.  Then, we blew up next session with a rod cap sticking out the pan. So, we thing we started with a main going bad that vibrated the rod end bolt out.  In the meantime, the  Panoz turned it's fasted lap yet at Daytona 158.3 with 178 top speed.  So we are focused in it now.  We are just going to wait til we get home to diagnose the issue with Pantera.

 

Frankly, we had a crap motor builder for a while, and this Clevor bottom end was built by him.  We had it "looked at" by our current motor builder while our true Cleveland race motor was getting built, and he freshened the top end but not the bottom which he held his nose for.  So this is the last of our crap from that old builder, and it went out with a bang. 

 

I am pissed , but that is racing and we have another car to focus on and a reason to get the proper Cleveland and exhaust in.  

 

By the way, the Pantera was a crowd pleaser and handling quite well.  What a shame.

 

 

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 16:49 Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com> wrote:

Bummer Dude,
I have spun many a rod bearing, but never a Main Bearing, are you sure about that?
Larry

On 10/27/21, 1:11 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa" <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:

       All,
       Pantera spun a main bearing the lost a connecting rod, with expected
       results.A  We are down for the weekend.A A
       We had a spike in oil pressure, which then equalized at 55 psi and 250
       degrees.A  The next session we lost the engine. Rev minter was set at
       6000A A
       For what it's worth, top speed on on our lap it 160 mph.A  I am trying
       to get a pic for you of the rid hanging out the pan.
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   We get it, under 2 minutes is a great time



   From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
   Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 2:37 PM
   To: Larry Stock <larrys at panteraparts.com>
   Cc: List DeTomaso Forum <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera down


   I meant to say 1:58.3 lap time ....not 158.3


   On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 17:10 Steve Lisa <[1]stevelisa at patentit.com>
   wrote:

   I am not sure....we had a spike in oil pressure that made us think it
   was a rod bearing...but it was only a few seconds then stabilized for a
   few laps.  Then, we blew up next session with a rod cap sticking out
   the pan. So, we thing we started with a main going bad that vibrated
   the rod end bolt out.  In the meantime, the  Panoz turned it's fasted
   lap yet at Daytona 158.3 with 178 top speed.  So we are focused in it
   now.  We are just going to wait til we get home to diagnose the issue
   with Pantera.


   Frankly, we had a crap motor builder for a while, and this Clevor
   bottom end was built by him.  We had it "looked at" by our current
   motor builder while our true Cleveland race motor was getting built,
   and he freshened the top end but not the bottom which he held his nose
   for.  So this is the last of our crap from that old builder, and it
   went out with a bang.


   I am pissed , but that is racing and we have another car to focus on
   and a reason to get the proper Cleveland and exhaust in.


   By the way, the Pantera was a crowd pleaser and handling quite well.
   What a shame.



   On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 16:49 Larry Stock <[2]larrys at panteraparts.com>
   wrote:

     Bummer Dude,
     I have spun many a rod bearing, but never a Main Bearing, are you
     sure about that?
     Larry
     On 10/27/21, 1:11 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Steve Lisa"
     <[3]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
     [4]stevelisa at patentit.com> wrote:
            All,
            Pantera spun a main bearing the lost a connecting rod, with
     expected
            results.A  We are down for the weekend.A A
            We had a spike in oil pressure, which then equalized at 55
     psi and 250
            degrees.A  The next session we lost the engine. Rev minter
     was set at
            6000A A
            For what it's worth, top speed on on our lap it 160 mph.A  I
     am trying
            to get a pic for you of the rid hanging out the pan.
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