[DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping this in their Pantera . . . ?

Mike & Elizabeth mbefthomas2 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 14 21:05:22 EDT 2021


Perhaps with a 427 side oiler, but the 427 SOHC is a completely different
and far more beastly animal.

 

From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net> 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:41 PM
To: 'Jim Kosloskey' <jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>; 'Mike & Elizabeth'
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping this in
their Pantera . . . ?

 

Dear Jim,

            Inquiring minds want to know:

Pantera International Vol. 10  No. 2  Fall/Winter 1983 page38

               This is The Pantera of The Quarter.  Fred Fossett owned a
Pantera shop at the time (Kansas?) and describes the conversion of a Pantera
with a 1967 427 side-oiler using two Holley 780 cfm carb and a valve train
with sodium-filled exhaust valves, etc and an estimated horsepower of
approximately "475".   Five photos accompany the article.

Pantera Int'l  Vol 12  Nos. 2 & 3  Winter '85 & Spring '86.   Two part
article:  Transformation---A Rusty Pantera Into a Group IV 427 by Dennis
Quella.  This article describes the resurrection of a rusty Pantera with
several photos of the process.  This Pantera is powered by a 427 medium-rise
wedge with extensive modificatons of the rear frame rails, engine mounts,
extra bracing, etc.

           There may be more 427 Pantera articles.  I went as far as P.I.
Fall 1995.   I did not check the Profiles.

           So, it has been done at least twice in the past.

                           Historically yours, Chuck Engles                

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kosloskey [mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:12 PM
To: 'Charles Engles'; 'Mike & Elizabeth'; 'Detomaso Forum'
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping this in
their Pantera . . . ?

Hmmm I wonder if that was a wedge or the SOHC? The SOHC is quite a bit

larger as I recall.

Jim Kosloskey

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Of Charles Engles

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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping this in

their Pantera . . . ?

Dear Mike,

               IIRC, Pantera Performance Center transplanted a 427 into a

Pantera back in the late eighties--early nineties.

               If that is correct, then it must have been quite a project.

                            Warmest regards, Chuck Engles

 

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Of Mike & Elizabeth

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Subject: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping this in

their Pantera . . . ?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/427-sohc-ford-v-8-from-the-60s/

 

I seem to recall some one has tried this in past.  Would be rather like

trying to put a size 14 foot in a size 10 shoe. . . 

 

Mike Thomas

Panteras Northwest

 

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   Perhaps with a 427 side oiler, but the 427 SOHC is a completely
   different and far more beastly animal.


   From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:41 PM
   To: 'Jim Kosloskey' <jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com>; 'Mike &
   Elizabeth' <mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Forum'
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping
   this in their Pantera . . . ?


   Dear Jim,

               Inquiring minds want to know:

   Pantera International Vol. 10  No. 2  Fall/Winter 1983 page38

                  This is The Pantera of The Quarter.  Fred Fossett owned
   a Pantera shop at the time (Kansas?) and describes the conversion of a
   Pantera with a 1967 427 side-oiler using two Holley 780 cfm carb and a
   valve train with sodium-filled exhaust valves, etc and an estimated
   horsepower of approximately "475".   Five photos accompany the article.

   Pantera Int'l  Vol 12  Nos. 2 & 3  Winter '85 & Spring '86.   Two part
   article:  Transformation---A Rusty Pantera Into a Group IV 427 by
   Dennis Quella.  This article describes the resurrection of a rusty
   Pantera with several photos of the process.  This Pantera is powered by
   a 427 medium-rise wedge with extensive modificatons of the rear frame
   rails, engine mounts, extra bracing, etc.

              There may be more 427 Pantera articles.  I went as far as
   P.I.  Fall 1995.   I did not check the Profiles.

              So, it has been done at least twice in the past.

                              Historically yours, Chuck
   Engles

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Jim Kosloskey [[1]mailto:jim.kosloskey at jim-kosloskey.com]
   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:12 PM
   To: 'Charles Engles'; 'Mike & Elizabeth'; 'Detomaso Forum'
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping
   this in their Pantera . . . ?

   Hmmm I wonder if that was a wedge or the SOHC? The SOHC is quite a bit

   larger as I recall.

   Jim Kosloskey

   -----Original Message-----

   From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf

   Of Charles Engles

   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:51 PM

   To: 'Mike & Elizabeth' <[3]mbefthomas2 at gmail.com>; 'Detomaso Forum'

   <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping
   this in

   their Pantera . . . ?

   Dear Mike,

                  IIRC, Pantera Performance Center transplanted a 427 into
   a

   Pantera back in the late eighties--early nineties.

                  If that is correct, then it must have been quite a
   project.

                               Warmest regards, Chuck Engles


   -----Original Message-----

   From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf

   Of Mike & Elizabeth

   Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:26 PM

   To: 'Detomaso Forum'

   Subject: [DeTomaso] 427 SOHC On BaT - Who wants to try dropping this in

   their Pantera . . . ?

   [6]https://bringatrailer.com/listing/427-sohc-ford-v-8-from-the-60s/


   I seem to recall some one has tried this in past.  Would be rather like

   trying to put a size 14 foot in a size 10 shoe. . .


   Mike Thomas

   Panteras Northwest


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