[DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Sun Oct 10 11:59:06 EDT 2021


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Jack seems to have a good idea. Here's mine using the original sender. Jeff
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On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 2:43 PM Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>    With an in-tank pump, it makes sense to use a new late model sender
>    with its own fuel-out line. Not only is the assembly brand new &
>    clean,  but it's smaller overall, making it easier to get the sender
>    assembly w/pump back in the tank thru the stock opening. And if you
>    have plans for more than 450 carbureted bhp any time in the future, you
>    can replace the sender's small diameter fuel-out line for the next size
>    larger. The stock size simply won't supply enough fuel for that much
>    power except for short full throttle bursts. In an early tank, the
>    stock banjo fitting fuel-out line can be used for an EFI fuel return.
>    Some carbureted setups use a fuel return, too.
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Doug Braun <doug351c at gmail.com>
>    To: 'Detomaso' <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>    Cc: 'Mike Drew' <mikeldrew at aol.com>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2021 10:20 am
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?
>    I chose to tap the gas tank's drain hole to a larger A 3/4-14NPT pipe
>    taper thread.  The drain seat in the tank tapped very well due to the
>    metal not being very hard.  I borrowed this idea from Jeff Kimball who
>    used this same tank conversion technique for his twin-turbo Pantera.
>    Next I installed a (3/4" NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Bushing
>    (NAPA-Weatherhead #3220x12x8) into the newly tapped tank hole and then
>    a  Brass (1/2' NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Elbow onto that.  This
>    gets you converted to fractional fittings, keeps the fuel plumbing
>    close to tank bottom for max ground clearance, and gives you a healthy
>    1/2" ID fuel feed capability.
>    Doug Braun
>    Blue 73L #5505
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
>    Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 9:53 PM
>    To: Mike Drew <[1]mikeldrew at aol.com>
>    Cc: Detomaso List <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for an EFI?
>    That seems the consensus, M22 1.5.  When I search for a plug this size
>    I found a lot of then for various European cars for transmissions etc.
>    Seems a common drain plug.
>        On Friday, October 8, 2021, 03:46:50 PM PDT, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>    <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>    Ken,
>    I believe its M22 pipe thread?
>    Mike
>    Sent from my iPad
>    > On Oct 9, 2021, at 01:52, Ken Green via DeTomaso
>    <[4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>    >
>    > i>>?  PS,
>    >      I found a banjo fitting and replaced the gas tank plug with it,
>    >but
>    >  not not sure I can find the original plug to put it back in the
>    tank.
>    >  Does anyone know the thread, or even have one laying around?
>    >  Ken
>    >
>    >  On Friday, October 8, 2021, 09:12:34 AM PDT, Ken Green
>    >  <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
>    >  An in-tank pump seems the best approach with minimum exposed hoses
>    >and
>    >  fittings.  Has anyone done this in their Pantera?
>    >  Thanks,
>    >  Ken
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   Jack seems to have a good idea. Here's mine using the original sender.
   Jeff
   6559

   On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 2:43 PM Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     A  A With an in-tank pump, it makes sense to use a new late model
     sender
     A  A with its own fuel-out line. Not only is the assembly brand new
     &
     A  A clean,A  but it's smaller overall, making it easier to get the
     sender
     A  A assembly w/pump back in the tank thru the stock opening. And if
     you
     A  A have plans for more than 450 carbureted bhp any time in the
     future, you
     A  A can replace the sender's small diameter fuel-out line for the
     next size
     A  A larger. The stock size simply won't supply enough fuel for that
     much
     A  A power except for short full throttle bursts. In an early tank,
     the
     A  A stock banjo fitting fuel-out line can be used for an EFI fuel
     return.
     A  A Some carbureted setups use a fuel return, too.
     A  A -----Original Message-----
     A  A From: Doug Braun <[2]doug351c at gmail.com>
     A  A To: 'Detomaso' <[3]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
     A  A Cc: 'Mike Drew' <[4]mikeldrew at aol.com>; 'Ken Green'
     <[5]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
     A  A Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2021 10:20 am
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for
     an EFI?
     A  A I chose to tap the gas tank's drain hole to a larger A
     3/4-14NPT pipe
     A  A taper thread.A  The drain seat in the tank tapped very well due
     to the
     A  A metal not being very hard.A  I borrowed this idea from Jeff
     Kimball who
     A  A used this same tank conversion technique for his twin-turbo
     Pantera.
     A  A Next I installed a (3/4" NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe
     Bushing
     A  A (NAPA-Weatherhead #3220x12x8) into the newly tapped tank hole
     and then
     A  A aA  Brass (1/2' NPT male x 1/2" NPT female) Pipe Elbow onto
     that.A  This
     A  A gets you converted to fractional fittings, keeps the fuel
     plumbing
     A  A close to tank bottom for max ground clearance, and gives you a
     healthy
     A  A 1/2" ID fuel feed capability.
     A  A Doug Braun
     A  A Blue 73L #5505
     A  A -----Original Message-----
     A  A From: DeTomaso On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     A  A Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 9:53 PM
     A  A To: Mike Drew <[1][6]mikeldrew at aol.com>
     A  A Cc: Detomaso List <[2][7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anyone Using an In-Tank Fuel Pump for
     an EFI?
     A  A That seems the consensus, M22 1.5.A  When I search for a plug
     this size
     A  A I found a lot of then for various European cars for
     transmissions etc.
     A  A Seems a common drain plug.
     A  A  A  A On Friday, October 8, 2021, 03:46:50 PM PDT, Mike Drew
     via DeTomaso
     A  A <[3][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     A  A Ken,
     A  A I believe its M22 pipe thread?
     A  A Mike
     A  A Sent from my iPad
     A  A > On Oct 9, 2021, at 01:52, Ken Green via DeTomaso
     A  A <[4][9]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     A  A >
     A  A > i>>?A  PS,
     A  A >A  A  A  I found a banjo fitting and replaced the gas tank
     plug with it,
     A  A >but
     A  A >A  not not sure I can find the original plug to put it back in
     the
     A  A tank.
     A  A >A  Does anyone know the thread, or even have one laying
     around?
     A  A >A  Ken
     A  A >
     A  A >A  On Friday, October 8, 2021, 09:12:34 AM PDT, Ken Green
     A  A >A  <[5][10]kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
     A  A >A  An in-tank pump seems the best approach with minimum
     exposed hoses
     A  A >and
     A  A >A  fittings.A  Has anyone done this in their Pantera?
     A  A >A  Thanks,
     A  A >A  Ken
     A  A > _______________________________________________
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