[DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
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Fri Feb 5 15:16:13 EST 2021
Something I found that helps greatly with head-to-roof clearance, if you can't/don't want to cut the floor(s) and prefer original early seats, is extra raking of the seat back angles. The early seats have removable backs fastened with bolt-on straps in back. By simply slotting the factory holes in the straps, the seat back angle (rake) can be changed as much as 10 degrees. I'm 6 ft 2" and when I set the back to full-rake with a matching seat base position, I have a finger's worth of head clearance even with a helmet on.
The factory strap-bolts are metric allens; I found a pair of aluminum tooling knobs about 2" OD and bored them to accept the factory allen bolt heads, then cross-drilled each assembly for a roll pin to retain the knobs. I can reach behind either seat while driving, slack off bolt tension and adjust both seat backs to whatever angle is comfortable using only hand tension. I also found '80s Toyota pickups have a nice black plastic seat position knob that screws onto Pantera seat rails, if your adjuster knobs are missing or broken.
No complication, almost no extra weight and the whole rig looks factory. After a tip from my friend Ike Burr who has an L-model painted almost the same as ours with stock early seats, I sent our seats out to be reupholstered with leather & extra padding in the side bolsters, plus a shallow bend added to the rear seat base crossmember. This allows one to adjust the seat angle more upright (Judy was only 5ft 2" so preferred a steeper back angle) without your tail- bone impacting the seat crossmember. Besides competition driving, we could both always find a position that was comfortable for those 5-hr drives to 'Vegas. No chiropractors needed!
J DeRyke
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From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, Feb 5, 2021 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
All,A
Below is a link to a shared Google folder of some imagesA of the
dropped floors on SN5533.A I apologize for the mess, we are in the
middle of a complete teardown and prep on the Pantera (and the Panoz in
the background, post-Historic 24 at Daytona).A So, she is certainly
not showroom clean.A Still, you can see the triangular drop to the
rear.A The outside and inside both were welded, and the frames
strengthened/gusseted, and then sealed.A A
Rather than just bolting the seats and belts to the floor, we added a
square subframe under the floor for more strength as well. The
under-floor seat supports are obviously just hanging down in the images
because the seats aren'tA installed.A The front image looking back
shows how low the back of the seats are relative to the frame.A So
far, we still have our butts intact, and we haven't bottomed yet.A A
Google file:
* [1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/eJPSr1bajfoKkBdt8
I will update as we get closer to done.
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Julian Kift
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A A Christer,
A A The difference between my '74L and GT5 is right around 50mm
from floor
A A to roof (difficult to get an exact difference as the '74 has no
carpet
A A in it currently and the GT5 is on piece carpet that wraps up
over the
A A inner rocker and is glued)
A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Christer Eriksson <[4]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 10:15 AM
A A To: Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry <[6]davel at trguys.com>;
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A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Ok, thanks Julian
A A I realy need some more headspace! My new carbon Recaro seats
are more
A A firm then my previous seats and it's no room for a nice hairdo
A flat
A A floor would be nice also for the downforce!
A A /Christer
A A tors 4 feb. 2021 kl. 18:19 skrev Julian Kift
A A <[1][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A Christer,
A A I have never physically measured the two, but can do so later
this
A A evening, I would guess at least 50mm, maybe as much as 75mm.
A A Julian
A A
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A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Thanks Julian,
A A interesting to see the difference! How much "headspace" differs
between
A A the earlier models compared to this?
A A BR/Christer
A A Den ons 3 feb. 2021 kl 19:22 skrev Julian Kift
A A <[7][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A Full size sent to Christer, here's what I have in reduced
resolution
A A for the rest of the group.
A A Julian
A A [cid:1776e3bcf44632aa0fa1] [cid:1776e3bcf4418c3c5db2]
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A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Do anyone have pictures of the 9000 series floorpan?
A A BR Christer #2783
A A ons 3 feb. 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Julian Kift
A A <[13][21]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A A A The vendors sell varying degrees of drop from 1 to 3" if
I
A A A recall, many
A A A A of these 'pans' are exactly that, a replacement pan to
be welded
A A A in
A A A A which also drops the front of the seat pan and depending
on your
A A A seat
A A A A style can restrict seat travel forward.
A A A A The triangular insert method avoids the forward seat
movement
A A A A restriction above, but does only really lower the rear
of the
A A A seat i.e.
A A A A adjust rake to lie back more.
A A A A Significantly more work, but a more complete solution is
to
A A A replace the
A A A A entire floor pan lowered like the later 9000 series
cars. Of
A A A course,
A A A A one can slope the pan starting much more forward and
remove the
A A A cross
A A A A brace mid-way. Add some bead rolled ribs to strengthen
the pan
A A A and/or
A A A A your own lowered cross brace.
A A A A Julian
A A
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headroom
A A A A pantera floor-pan lowering kit - Google Search
A A
A <[1][18][26]https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=p
antera
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A A
A pan+lowering+kit&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdwI2U08zuAhUOuZ4KHQeRBDoQjJkEegQ
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A A
A [2][19][27]https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=pa
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A an+lowering+kit&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdwI2U08zuAhUOuZ4KHQeRBDoQjJkEegQI
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A A A AB
A A A A Lots of info here.
A A A A Dave
A A A A On 2021-02-02 6:15 p.m., B Hower via DeTomaso wrote:
A A A A >A A A 3400 has lowered floor ... level and driver and
passenger
A A A side
A A A A ... I
A A A A >A A A would think that sloping floor and tilting seat
would
A A A restrict
A A A A rear
A A A A >A A A travel of seat adjustment ...
A A A A >A A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
-- for there
A A A may
A A A A not be
A A A A >A A A ! )
A A A A >
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A A A A >A A A A I'm sure someone will post with more details
or a
A A A reference,
A A A A but my
A A A A >A A A A recollection is that you don't want to lower
the entire
A A A floor
A A A A but
A A A A >A A A A rather leave the forward portion as it is
and angle the
A A A floor
A A A A down as
A A A A >A A A A it goes rearward. You cut the floor on the
sides and
A A A rear, bend
A A A A it
A A A A >A A A A down, and weld in triangular pieces to
support it that
A A A way.
A A A A This
A A A A >A A A lowers
A A A A >A A A A and tilts the seat bottom.A Too much and
you'll hit on
A A A every
A A A A speed
A A A A >A A A bump
A A A A >A A A A you come across.
A A A A >A A A A Jim
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A A A A >A A A A Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2021 5:57 pm
A A A A >A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for
more headroom
A A A A >A A A A A Anyone recall a forum posting or article
on lowering
A A A the
A A A A floor
A A A A >A A A pans.
A A A A >A A A A A My search has come up empty.
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Something I found that helps greatly with head-to-roof clearance, if
you can't/don't want to cut the floor(s) and prefer original early
seats, is extra raking of the seat back angles. The early seats have
removable backs fastened with bolt-on straps in back. By simply
slotting the factory holes in the straps, the seat back angle (rake)
can be changed as much as 10 degrees. I'm 6 ft 2" and when I set the
back to full-rake with a matching seat base position, I have a finger's
worth of head clearance even with a helmet on.
The factory strap-bolts are metric allens; I found a pair of aluminum
tooling knobs about 2" OD and bored them to accept the factory allen
bolt heads, then cross-drilled each assembly for a roll pin to retain
the knobs. I can reach behind either seat while driving, slack off bolt
tension and adjust both seat backs to whatever angle is comfortable
using only hand tension. I also found '80s Toyota pickups have a nice
black plastic seat position knob that screws onto Pantera seat rails,
if your adjuster knobs are missing or broken.
No complication, almost no extra weight and the whole rig looks
factory. After a tip from my friend Ike Burr who has an L-model painted
almost the same as ours with stock early seats, I sent our seats out to
be reupholstered with leather & extra padding in the side bolsters,
plus a shallow bend added to the rear seat base crossmember. This
allows one to adjust the seat angle more upright (Judy was only 5ft 2"
so preferred a steeper back angle) without your tail- bone impacting
the seat crossmember. Besides competition driving, we could both always
find a position that was comfortable for those 5-hr drives to 'Vegas.
No chiropractors needed!
J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lisa <stevelisa at patentit.com>
To: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 5, 2021 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
All,A
Below is a link to a shared Google folder of some imagesA of the
dropped floors on SN5533.A I apologize for the mess, we are in the
middle of a complete teardown and prep on the Pantera (and the Panoz
in
the background, post-Historic 24 at Daytona).A So, she is certainly
not showroom clean.A Still, you can see the triangular drop to the
rear.A The outside and inside both were welded, and the frames
strengthened/gusseted, and then sealed.A A
Rather than just bolting the seats and belts to the floor, we added a
square subframe under the floor for more strength as well. The
under-floor seat supports are obviously just hanging down in the
images
because the seats aren'tA installed.A The front image looking back
shows how low the back of the seats are relative to the frame.A So
far, we still have our butts intact, and we haven't bottomed yet.A A
Google file:
* [1][1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/eJPSr1bajfoKkBdt8
I will update as we get closer to done.
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Julian Kift
<[3][3]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A Christer,
A A The difference between my '74L and GT5 is right around 50mm
from floor
A A to roof (difficult to get an exact difference as the '74 has
no
carpet
A A in it currently and the GT5 is on piece carpet that wraps up
over the
A A inner rocker and is glued)
A A Julian
A A
A
__________________________________________________________________
A A From: Christer Eriksson <[4][4]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 10:15 AM
A A To: Julian Kift <[5][5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry <[6][6]davel at trguys.com>;
[7][7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A <[8][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Ok, thanks Julian
A A I realy need some more headspace! My new carbon Recaro seats
are more
A A firm then my previous seats and it's no room for a nice hairdo
A flat
A A floor would be nice also for the downforce!
A A /Christer
A A tors 4 feb. 2021 kl. 18:19 skrev Julian Kift
A A <[1][9][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A Christer,
A A I have never physically measured the two, but can do so later
this
A A evening, I would guess at least 50mm, maybe as much as 75mm.
A A Julian
A A
A
__________________________________________________________________
A A From: Christer Eriksson
<[2][10][10]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 4:46 AM
A A To: Julian Kift <[3][11][11]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry <[4][12][12]davel at trguys.com>;
A A [5][13][13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A <[6][14][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Thanks Julian,
A A interesting to see the difference! How much "headspace"
differs
between
A A the earlier models compared to this?
A A BR/Christer
A A Den ons 3 feb. 2021 kl 19:22 skrev Julian Kift
A A <[7][15][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A Full size sent to Christer, here's what I have in reduced
resolution
A A for the rest of the group.
A A Julian
A A [cid:1776e3bcf44632aa0fa1] [cid:1776e3bcf4418c3c5db2]
A A [cid:1776e3bcf44254e4adc3]
A A
A
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A A From: Christer Eriksson
<[8][16][16]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:07 AM
A A To: Julian Kift <[9][17][17]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry <[10][18][18]davel at trguys.com>;
A A [11][19][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A <[12][20][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Do anyone have pictures of the 9000 series floorpan?
A A BR Christer #2783
A A ons 3 feb. 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Julian Kift
A A <[13][21][21]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A A A The vendors sell varying degrees of drop from 1 to 3"
if
I
A A A recall, many
A A A A of these 'pans' are exactly that, a replacement pan to
be welded
A A A in
A A A A which also drops the front of the seat pan and
depending
on your
A A A seat
A A A A style can restrict seat travel forward.
A A A A The triangular insert method avoids the forward seat
movement
A A A A restriction above, but does only really lower the rear
of the
A A A seat i.e.
A A A A adjust rake to lie back more.
A A A A Significantly more work, but a more complete solution
is
to
A A A replace the
A A A A entire floor pan lowered like the later 9000 series
cars. Of
A A A course,
A A A A one can slope the pan starting much more forward and
remove the
A A A cross
A A A A brace mid-way. Add some bead rolled ribs to strengthen
the pan
A A A and/or
A A A A your own lowered cross brace.
A A A A Julian
A A
A
__________________________________________________________________
A A A A From: DeTomaso
<[14][22][22]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
A A A behalf of
A A A A Dave Londry <[15][23][23]davel at trguys.com>
A A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 6:23 PM
A A A A To: [16][24][24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more
headroom
A A A A pantera floor-pan lowering kit - Google Search
A A
A
<[1][18][26][26]https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=p
antera
A A A +floor-
A A
A
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Bx
A A A AB
A A A A Lots of info here.
A A A A Dave
A A A A On 2021-02-02 6:15 p.m., B Hower via DeTomaso wrote:
A A A A >A A A 3400 has lowered floor ... level and driver
and
passenger
A A A side
A A A A ... I
A A A A >A A A would think that sloping floor and tilting
seat
would
A A A restrict
A A A A rear
A A A A >A A A travel of seat adjustment ...
A A A A >A A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
-- for there
A A A may
A A A A not be
A A A A >A A A ! )
A A A A >
A A A A >A A A On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:07:02 PM CST,
Pantdino via
A A A A DeTomaso
A A A A >A A A <[20][28][28]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
wrote:
A A A A >A A A A I'm sure someone will post with more
details
or a
A A A reference,
A A A A but my
A A A A >A A A A recollection is that you don't want to
lower
the entire
A A A floor
A A A A but
A A A A >A A A A rather leave the forward portion as it is
and angle the
A A A floor
A A A A down as
A A A A >A A A A it goes rearward. You cut the floor on the
sides and
A A A rear, bend
A A A A it
A A A A >A A A A down, and weld in triangular pieces to
support it that
A A A way.
A A A A This
A A A A >A A A lowers
A A A A >A A A A and tilts the seat bottom.A Too much and
you'll hit on
A A A every
A A A A speed
A A A A >A A A bump
A A A A >A A A A you come across.
A A A A >A A A A Jim
A A A A >A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A >A A A A From: Doug Braun
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A A A A >A A A A To:
[2][22][30][30]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A >A A A A Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2021 5:57 pm
A A A A >A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for
more headroom
A A A A >A A A A A Anyone recall a forum posting or article
on lowering
A A A the
A A A A floor
A A A A >A A A pans.
A A A A >A A A A A My search has come up empty.
A A A A >A A A A A Doug Braun
A A A A >A A A A A Blue 73L #5505
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