[DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
Asa Jay Laughton
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Sat Feb 6 01:44:24 EST 2021
That used to be my Pantera. I get no end of joy (if not a bit of
melancholy mixed in) every time I see photos of all the neat
improvements you keep making to the car. I see what looks like maybe
front brake cooling ducts being fabricated up front, a nice set of
headers on the engine, new firewall insulation, a new coolant bottle,
ignition setup, front spoiler, and more.
it's looking great Steve, I pray you keep having as much fun with it as
I did. :)
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
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On 2/5/2021 11:19, Steve Lisa wrote:
> All,A
> Below is a link to a shared Google folder of some imagesA of the
> dropped floors on SN5533.A I apologize for the mess, we are in the
> middle of a complete teardown and prep on the Pantera (and the Panoz in
> the background, post-Historic 24 at Daytona).A So, she is certainly
> not showroom clean.A Still, you can see the triangular drop to the
> rear.A The outside and inside both were welded, and the frames
> strengthened/gusseted, and then sealed.A A
> Rather than just bolting the seats and belts to the floor, we added a
> square subframe under the floor for more strength as well. The
> under-floor seat supports are obviously just hanging down in the images
> because the seats aren'tA installed.A The front image looking back
> shows how low the back of the seats are relative to the frame.A So
> far, we still have our butts intact, and we haven't bottomed yet.A A
> Google file:
> * [1]https://photos.app.goo.gl/eJPSr1bajfoKkBdt8
>
> I will update as we get closer to done.
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> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Julian Kift
> <[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> A A Christer,
> A A The difference between my '74L and GT5 is right around 50mm
> from floor
> A A to roof (difficult to get an exact difference as the '74 has no
> carpet
> A A in it currently and the GT5 is on piece carpet that wraps up
> over the
> A A inner rocker and is glued)
> A A Julian
> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A From: Christer Eriksson <[4]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
> A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 10:15 AM
> A A To: Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> A A Cc: Dave Londry <[6]davel at trguys.com>;
> [7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A <[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
> A A Ok, thanks Julian
> A A I realy need some more headspace! My new carbon Recaro seats
> are more
> A A firm then my previous seats and it's no room for a nice hairdo
> A flat
> A A floor would be nice also for the downforce!
> A A /Christer
> A A tors 4 feb. 2021 kl. 18:19 skrev Julian Kift
> A A <[1][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> A A Christer,
> A A I have never physically measured the two, but can do so later
> this
> A A evening, I would guess at least 50mm, maybe as much as 75mm.
> A A Julian
> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A From: Christer Eriksson <[2][10]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
> A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 4:46 AM
> A A To: Julian Kift <[3][11]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> A A Cc: Dave Londry <[4][12]davel at trguys.com>;
> A A [5][13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A <[6][14]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
> A A Thanks Julian,
> A A interesting to see the difference! How much "headspace" differs
> between
> A A the earlier models compared to this?
> A A BR/Christer
> A A Den ons 3 feb. 2021 kl 19:22 skrev Julian Kift
> A A <[7][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> A A Full size sent to Christer, here's what I have in reduced
> resolution
> A A for the rest of the group.
> A A Julian
> A A [cid:1776e3bcf44632aa0fa1] [cid:1776e3bcf4418c3c5db2]
> A A [cid:1776e3bcf44254e4adc3]
> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A From: Christer Eriksson <[8][16]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
> A A Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:07 AM
> A A To: Julian Kift <[9][17]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
> A A Cc: Dave Londry <[10][18]davel at trguys.com>;
> A A [11][19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A <[12][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
> A A Do anyone have pictures of the 9000 series floorpan?
> A A BR Christer #2783
> A A ons 3 feb. 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Julian Kift
> A A <[13][21]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
> A A A A The vendors sell varying degrees of drop from 1 to 3" if
> I
> A A A recall, many
> A A A A of these 'pans' are exactly that, a replacement pan to
> be welded
> A A A in
> A A A A which also drops the front of the seat pan and depending
> on your
> A A A seat
> A A A A style can restrict seat travel forward.
> A A A A The triangular insert method avoids the forward seat
> movement
> A A A A restriction above, but does only really lower the rear
> of the
> A A A seat i.e.
> A A A A adjust rake to lie back more.
> A A A A Significantly more work, but a more complete solution is
> to
> A A A replace the
> A A A A entire floor pan lowered like the later 9000 series
> cars. Of
> A A A course,
> A A A A one can slope the pan starting much more forward and
> remove the
> A A A cross
> A A A A brace mid-way. Add some bead rolled ribs to strengthen
> the pan
> A A A and/or
> A A A A your own lowered cross brace.
> A A A A Julian
> A A
> A __________________________________________________________________
> A A A A From: DeTomaso
> <[14][22]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
> A A A behalf of
> A A A A Dave Londry <[15][23]davel at trguys.com>
> A A A A Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 6:23 PM
> A A A A To: [16][24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A A <[17][25]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more
> headroom
> A A A A pantera floor-pan lowering kit - Google Search
> A A
> A <[1][18][26]https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=p
> antera
> A A A +floor-
> A A
> A pan+lowering+kit&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdwI2U08zuAhUOuZ4KHQeRBDoQjJkEegQ
> IB
> A A A xAB
> A A A A &biw=1180&bih=967>
> A A
> A [2][19][27]https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=pa
> ntera+
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> Bx
> A A A AB
> A A A A Lots of info here.
> A A A A Dave
> A A A A On 2021-02-02 6:15 p.m., B Hower via DeTomaso wrote:
> A A A A >A A A 3400 has lowered floor ... level and driver and
> passenger
> A A A side
> A A A A ... I
> A A A A >A A A would think that sloping floor and tilting seat
> would
> A A A restrict
> A A A A rear
> A A A A >A A A travel of seat adjustment ...
> A A A A >A A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
> -- for there
> A A A may
> A A A A not be
> A A A A >A A A ! )
> A A A A >
> A A A A >A A A On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:07:02 PM CST,
> Pantdino via
> A A A A DeTomaso
> A A A A >A A A <[20][28]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> wrote:
> A A A A >A A A A I'm sure someone will post with more details
> or a
> A A A reference,
> A A A A but my
> A A A A >A A A A recollection is that you don't want to lower
> the entire
> A A A floor
> A A A A but
> A A A A >A A A A rather leave the forward portion as it is
> and angle the
> A A A floor
> A A A A down as
> A A A A >A A A A it goes rearward. You cut the floor on the
> sides and
> A A A rear, bend
> A A A A it
> A A A A >A A A A down, and weld in triangular pieces to
> support it that
> A A A way.
> A A A A This
> A A A A >A A A lowers
> A A A A >A A A A and tilts the seat bottom.A Too much and
> you'll hit on
> A A A every
> A A A A speed
> A A A A >A A A bump
> A A A A >A A A A you come across.
> A A A A >A A A A Jim
> A A A A >A A A A -----Original Message-----
> A A A A >A A A A From: Doug Braun
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> A A A A >A A A A To:
> [2][22][30]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> A A A A >A A A A Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2021 5:57 pm
> A A A A >A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for
> more headroom
> A A A A >A A A A A Anyone recall a forum posting or article
> on lowering
> A A A the
> A A A A floor
> A A A A >A A A pans.
> A A A A >A A A A A My search has come up empty.
> A A A A >A A A A A Doug Braun
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That used to be my Pantera. I get no end of joy (if not a bit of
melancholy mixed in) every time I see photos of all the neat
improvements you keep making to the car. I see what looks like maybe
front brake cooling ducts being fabricated up front, a nice set of
headers on the engine, new firewall insulation, a new coolant bottle,
ignition setup, front spoiler, and more.
it's looking great Steve, I pray you keep having as much fun with it as
I did. :)
Asa Jay
Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
Spokane County ARES-RACES-ACS EC/RO
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[2]https://www.teampanteraracing.com
On 2/5/2021 11:19, Steve Lisa wrote:
All,A
Below is a link to a shared Google folder of some imagesA of the
dropped floors on SN5533.A I apologize for the mess, we are in the
middle of a complete teardown and prep on the Pantera (and the Panoz in
the background, post-Historic 24 at Daytona).A So, she is certainly
not showroom clean.A Still, you can see the triangular drop to the
rear.A The outside and inside both were welded, and the frames
strengthened/gusseted, and then sealed.A A
Rather than just bolting the seats and belts to the floor, we added a
square subframe under the floor for more strength as well. The
under-floor seat supports are obviously just hanging down in the images
because the seats aren'tA installed.A The front image looking back
shows how low the back of the seats are relative to the frame.A So
far, we still have our butts intact, and we haven't bottomed yet.A A
Google file:
* [1][3]https://photos.app.goo.gl/eJPSr1bajfoKkBdt8
I will update as we get closer to done.
Regards,A
Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
The Law Offices of Lisa & Lesko, LLC
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On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:10 AM Julian Kift
[5]<[3]julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:
A A Christer,
A A The difference between my '74L and GT5 is right around 50mm
from floor
A A to roof (difficult to get an exact difference as the '74 has no
carpet
A A in it currently and the GT5 is on piece carpet that wraps up
over the
A A inner rocker and is glued)
A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Christer Eriksson [6]<[4]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 10:15 AM
A A To: Julian Kift [7]<[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry [8]<[6]davel at trguys.com>;
[[9]7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A [10]<[8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Ok, thanks Julian
A A I realy need some more headspace! My new carbon Recaro seats
are more
A A firm then my previous seats and it's no room for a nice hairdo
A flat
A A floor would be nice also for the downforce!
A A /Christer
A A tors 4 feb. 2021 kl. 18:19 skrev Julian Kift
A A [11]<[1][9]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A Christer,
A A I have never physically measured the two, but can do so later
this
A A evening, I would guess at least 50mm, maybe as much as 75mm.
A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A From: Christer Eriksson [12]<[2][10]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2021 4:46 AM
A A To: Julian Kift [13]<[3][11]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry [14]<[4][12]davel at trguys.com>;
A A [5][[15]13]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Thanks Julian,
A A interesting to see the difference! How much "headspace" differs
between
A A the earlier models compared to this?
A A BR/Christer
A A Den ons 3 feb. 2021 kl 19:22 skrev Julian Kift
A A [17]<[7][15]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A Full size sent to Christer, here's what I have in reduced
resolution
A A for the rest of the group.
A A Julian
A A [[18]cid:1776e3bcf44632aa0fa1] [[19]cid:1776e3bcf4418c3c5db2]
A A [[20]cid:1776e3bcf44254e4adc3]
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A A From: Christer Eriksson [21]<[8][16]unnerstad.ekelund at gmail.com>
A A Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:07 AM
A A To: Julian Kift [22]<[9][17]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
A A Cc: Dave Londry [23]<[10][18]davel at trguys.com>;
A A [11][[24]19]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A [25]<[12][20]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more headroom
A A Do anyone have pictures of the 9000 series floorpan?
A A BR Christer #2783
A A ons 3 feb. 2021 kl. 16:48 skrev Julian Kift
A A [26]<[13][21]julian_kift at hotmail.com>:
A A A A The vendors sell varying degrees of drop from 1 to 3" if
I
A A A recall, many
A A A A of these 'pans' are exactly that, a replacement pan to
be welded
A A A in
A A A A which also drops the front of the seat pan and depending
on your
A A A seat
A A A A style can restrict seat travel forward.
A A A A The triangular insert method avoids the forward seat
movement
A A A A restriction above, but does only really lower the rear
of the
A A A seat i.e.
A A A A adjust rake to lie back more.
A A A A Significantly more work, but a more complete solution is
to
A A A replace the
A A A A entire floor pan lowered like the later 9000 series
cars. Of
A A A course,
A A A A one can slope the pan starting much more forward and
remove the
A A A cross
A A A A brace mid-way. Add some bead rolled ribs to strengthen
the pan
A A A and/or
A A A A your own lowered cross brace.
A A A A Julian
A A
A __________________________________________________________________
A A A A From: DeTomaso
[27]<[14][22]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
A A A behalf of
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A A A A To: [16][[29]24]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
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A A A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for more
headroom
A A A A pantera floor-pan lowering kit - Google Search
A A
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antera
A A A +floor-
A A
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A A A AB
A A A A Lots of info here.
A A A A Dave
A A A A On 2021-02-02 6:15 p.m., B Hower via DeTomaso wrote:
A A A A >A A A 3400 has lowered floor ... level and driver and
passenger
A A A side
A A A A ... I
A A A A >A A A would think that sloping floor and tilting seat
would
A A A restrict
A A A A rear
A A A A >A A A travel of seat adjustment ...
A A A A >A A A Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
-- for there
A A A may
A A A A not be
A A A A >A A A ! )
A A A A >
A A A A >A A A On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:07:02 PM CST,
Pantdino via
A A A A DeTomaso
A A A A >A A A [33]<[20][28]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
wrote:
A A A A >A A A A I'm sure someone will post with more details
or a
A A A reference,
A A A A but my
A A A A >A A A A recollection is that you don't want to lower
the entire
A A A floor
A A A A but
A A A A >A A A A rather leave the forward portion as it is
and angle the
A A A floor
A A A A down as
A A A A >A A A A it goes rearward. You cut the floor on the
sides and
A A A rear, bend
A A A A it
A A A A >A A A A down, and weld in triangular pieces to
support it that
A A A way.
A A A A This
A A A A >A A A lowers
A A A A >A A A A and tilts the seat bottom.A Too much and
you'll hit on
A A A every
A A A A speed
A A A A >A A A bump
A A A A >A A A A you come across.
A A A A >A A A A Jim
A A A A >A A A A -----Original Message-----
A A A A >A A A A From: Doug Braun
[34]<[1][21][29]doug351c at gmail.com>
A A A A >A A A A To:
[2][22][[35]30]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
A A A A >A A A A Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2021 5:57 pm
A A A A >A A A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Lowered Floor Pans for
more headroom
A A A A >A A A A A Anyone recall a forum posting or article
on lowering
A A A the
A A A A floor
A A A A >A A A pans.
A A A A >A A A A A My search has come up empty.
A A A A >A A A A A Doug Braun
A A A A >A A A A A Blue 73L #5505
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