[DeTomaso] Ignition key Lock - tumbler housing

Sun Jun 9 11:52:48 EDT 2019

At least one of the vendors sells a replacement tumbler, a quick search brings up PI Motorsports;

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DETOMASO-PANTERA-71-74-PARTS-IGNITION-CYLINDER-AND-KEY-/264278145584

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Julian

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 7:23 PM
To: Mike Drew
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition key Lock - tumbler housing

Mike, thanks for the reply.

My car had some different issues so I continued on with the disassembly of
the tumbler from the tumbler housing. The notes at Pantera Place are spot on
about the need to keep the key inserted when removing the tumbler from the
housing to keep the pin plates from falling out. It turns out that the
problem was a spring in one of the pin plates was in a bind or jammed up
(stuck) causing the pin plate to not move freely.  I did find some
metal/plating chips that should have not been there. The pins and springs
were removed for cleaning and then given a ultrasonic bath. After reassembly
it appears to be working correctly.

During the rebuild I could see other signs of age and wear, but this will
get the car running for now. I would like to find a new tumbler and housing
so if anyone has information on that please let me know.

On a different note, is there a policy/restrictions on posting pictures.?

Thanks
Wayne

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Drew
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019 2:55 AM
To: Wayne Boian
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition key Lock - tumbler housing

Wayne,

If you pull the lock tumbler out, then insert the key fully, then depress it
inwards, it will probably turn. If the tumbler is in the ‘in’ position when
you first insert the key, then it cannot be turned.

Make a tiny hook from a paper clip to pop the tumbler out, then lubricate it
with lock lubricant. Chances are that is all that is necessary.

Mike

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 7, 2019, at 22:32, Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net> wrote:
>
>   It was a pretty day so I decided to take the Pantera out to awarm the
>   oila. As fate would have it, I put the key in the ignition and the key
>   would not turn. Long story short, did all the research and crawled up
>   under the dash.
>
>   I have the ignition parts out of the car and the problem is in the
>   ignition lock or tumbler housing. The mechanical part that key goes
>   into is bad and not the electrical part of the switch.  The center
>   section of the lock ( where the key is inserted) is free to move in and
>   out and has no spring pressure. The key will just not turn in the
>   tumbler housing. I would like to find a replacement ignition Lock ( if
>   that is the correct name) before trying to take the old one apart.
>   Mike  at The Pantera Place warns that disassembly of the tumbler body
>   can be a little tricky.
>
>   I could not fine anything on just the tumbler housing in Bill Taylors
>   Gear Head database, so if you have some information please let me know.
>
>   Thanks
>   Wayne
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   At least one of the vendors sells a replacement tumbler, a quick search
   brings up PI Motorsports;

   [1]https://www.ebay.com/itm/DETOMASO-PANTERA-71-74-PARTS-IGNITION-CYLIN
   DER-AND-KEY-/264278145584

   I believe emails are limited to 1MB total inclusive of any photos,
   within that limit photos/files can be attached or embedded in the
   email.

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
   Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
   Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 7:23 PM
   To: Mike Drew
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition key Lock - tumbler housing

   Mike, thanks for the reply.
   My car had some different issues so I continued on with the disassembly
   of
   the tumbler from the tumbler housing. The notes at Pantera Place are
   spot on
   about the need to keep the key inserted when removing the tumbler from
   the
   housing to keep the pin plates from falling out. It turns out that the
   problem was a spring in one of the pin plates was in a bind or jammed
   up
   (stuck) causing the pin plate to not move freely.  I did find some
   metal/plating chips that should have not been there. The pins and
   springs
   were removed for cleaning and then given a ultrasonic bath. After
   reassembly
   it appears to be working correctly.
   During the rebuild I could see other signs of age and wear, but this
   will
   get the car running for now. I would like to find a new tumbler and
   housing
   so if anyone has information on that please let me know.
   On a different note, is there a policy/restrictions on posting
   pictures.?
   Thanks
   Wayne
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Mike Drew
   Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2019 2:55 AM
   To: Wayne Boian
   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Ignition key Lock - tumbler housing
   Wayne,
   If you pull the lock tumbler out, then insert the key fully, then
   depress it
   inwards, it will probably turn. If the tumbler is in the `in' position
   when
   you first insert the key, then it cannot be turned.
   Make a tiny hook from a paper clip to pop the tumbler out, then
   lubricate it
   with lock lubricant. Chances are that is all that is necessary.
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   > On Jun 7, 2019, at 22:32, Wayne Boian <wayneboian at windstream.net>
   wrote:
   >
   >   It was a pretty day so I decided to take the Pantera out to awarm
   the
   >   oila. As fate would have it, I put the key in the ignition and the
   key
   >   would not turn. Long story short, did all the research and crawled
   up
   >   under the dash.
   >
   >   I have the ignition parts out of the car and the problem is in the
   >   ignition lock or tumbler housing. The mechanical part that key goes
   >   into is bad and not the electrical part of the switch.  The center
   >   section of the lock ( where the key is inserted) is free to move in
   and
   >   out and has no spring pressure. The key will just not turn in the
   >   tumbler housing. I would like to find a replacement ignition Lock (
   if
   >   that is the correct name) before trying to take the old one apart.
   >   Mike  at The Pantera Place warns that disassembly of the tumbler
   body
   >   can be a little tricky.
   >
   >   I could not fine anything on just the tumbler housing in Bill
   Taylors
   >   Gear Head database, so if you have some information please let me
   know.
   >
   >   Thanks
   >   Wayne
   > _______________________________________________
   >
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