[DeTomaso] Overhauled and valuable car parts lost by shipping carrier!!!

Bjoern Flesland bflesland at gmail.com
Sat Aug 3 13:27:11 EDT 2019


Joseph,
The payment for the overhaul and refurbishment was done by wire.
But thanks for thinking about that.

My concern is although who’s legally responsible for bringing my
refurbished parts back to me?

Obviously it’s not the UPS since they can just pay out the (low) insured
amount value and then forget about it.

So is it the shop?

Julian,
Just curious, did you get any insurance amount from USPS prior to receiving
the radiator tank?

Cheers Bjoern


lør. 3. aug. 2019 kl. 18:47 skrev Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com
>:

> Don't know the legalities, but something to think about if any payment was
> with credit card would be notify credit card company.  I ran into a problem
> where I waited too late for them to take action on my part (when upholstery
> skip town).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
> Of Julian Kift
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 12:16 PM
> To: Bjoern Flesland; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhauled and valuable car parts lost by shipping
> carrier!!!
>
> I would agree that the company that shipped and insured them is ultimately
> responsible for replacement, they are incumbent until delivered and
> knowingly took the risk of under insuring.
>
> UPS normally won't process a claim until it is clearly evident they have
> truly lost the parts, which usually means waiting a week or two. They do
> seem to lose track of stuff with surprising frequency despite all the
> handheld scan in - scan out processes and fortunately more often than not
> it
> turns up again.
>
> Believe it or not I actually once had a radiator expansion tank / bottle
> turn up via USPS over 6 months after it was shipped.
>
> Julian
> ________________________________
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
> Bjoern Flesland <bflesland at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:53 AM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhauled and valuable car parts lost by shipping
> carrier!!!
>
> Thanks for both your replies. Appreciate it.
>
> Bob,
> You wrote: “The company that shipped the product to you is ultimately
> responsible to replace the parts.”
>
> Are they ultimately legally responsible for “my own old refurbished car
> parts” until I have them back in my possession?
>
> Can I legally go after this company if they don’t stand up?
>
> Will any mechanic shop have proper insurance that will cover such a
> mistake,
> ie. they didn’t declare the return shipping value high enough?
>
> Cheers Bjoern
>
>
>
>
> lør. 3. aug. 2019 kl. 17:15 skrev Rich Hoppe <richbhoppe at gmail.com>:
>
> > My advice would be to wait a few weeks.
> > I purchased something from a reputable vendor through E-b-a-y.
> > The USPS showed that they delivered it, but I did not receive it.
> > When I tried to dispute it, everyone said ' well if the USPS said they
> > delivered, the vendor is not responsible since they can show it was sent.
> > They are not responsible.
> > Anyway after a couple weeks it just showed up from the USPS.
> > It was temp lost in shipping but came through eventually.
> > Rich
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 7:03 AM bflesland at gmail.com
> > <bflesland at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>    All,
> >>
> >>    Looks like I have a problem, and I would like to hear your
> suggestions
> >>    on how to solve it.
> >>
> >>    Issue: The car parts repair company declared monetary value way too
> low
> >>    on my overhauled parts, when shipping them back to me.
> >>
> >>    Shipping carrier (UPS) have now most probably lost the parts.
> >>
> >>    They are currently investigating the whereabouts of them.
> >>
> >>    What should I do now if my parts are in fact gone?
> >>
> >>    I will probably get to know this the coming week.
> >>
> >>    Should I go after the company that did the overhaul and refurbishment
> >>    of my parts?
> >>
> >>    They declared the value to about 15% of real value when delivering
> them
> >>    to the carrier.
> >>
> >>    Declared value is even less than it cost me to have the parts
> >>    refurbished! I did not know this before I started asking questions
> >>    where my parts where.
> >>
> >>    Real value is what it will cost me to buy these "hard to find parts"
> >>    new, today.
> >>
> >>    Appreciate your thoughts, guys & gals.
> >>
> >>    Cheers Bjoern
>
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   Joseph,
   The payment for the overhaul and refurbishment was done by wire.A
   But thanks for thinking about that.
   My concern is although whoas legally responsible for bringing my
   refurbished parts back to me?
   Obviously itas not the UPS since they can just pay out the (low)
   insured amount value and then forget about it.A
   So is it the shop?
   Julian,
   Just curious, did you get any insurance amount from USPS prior to
   receiving the radiator tank?
   Cheers BjoernA

   lA,r. 3. aug. 2019 kl. 18:47 skrev Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
   <[1]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>:

     Don't know the legalities, but something to think about if any
     payment was
     with credit card would be notify credit card company.A  I ran into a
     problem
     where I waited too late for them to take action on my part (when
     upholstery
     skip town).
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Julian Kift
     Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2019 12:16 PM
     To: Bjoern Flesland; [3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhauled and valuable car parts lost by
     shipping
     carrier!!!
     I would agree that the company that shipped and insured them is
     ultimately
     responsible for replacement, they are incumbent until delivered and
     knowingly took the risk of under insuring.
     UPS normally won't process a claim until it is clearly evident they
     have
     truly lost the parts, which usually means waiting a week or two.
     They do
     seem to lose track of stuff with surprising frequency despite all
     the
     handheld scan in - scan out processes and fortunately more often
     than not it
     turns up again.
     Believe it or not I actually once had a radiator expansion tank /
     bottle
     turn up via USPS over 6 months after it was shipped.
     Julian
     ________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
     behalf of
     Bjoern Flesland <[5]bflesland at gmail.com>
     Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:53 AM
     To: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     <[7]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Overhauled and valuable car parts lost by
     shipping
     carrier!!!
     Thanks for both your replies. Appreciate it.
     Bob,
     You wrote: aThe company that shipped the product to you is
     ultimately
     responsible to replace the parts.a
     Are they ultimately legally responsible for amy own old refurbished
     car
     partsa until I have them back in my possession?
     Can I legally go after this company if they donat stand up?
     Will any mechanic shop have proper insurance that will cover such a
     mistake,
     ie. they didnat declare the return shipping value high enough?
     Cheers Bjoern
     lA,r. 3. aug. 2019 kl. 17:15 skrev Rich Hoppe
     <[8]richbhoppe at gmail.com>:
     > My advice would be to wait a few weeks.
     > I purchased something from a reputable vendor through E-b-a-y.
     > The USPS showed that they delivered it, but I did not receive it.
     > When I tried to dispute it, everyone said ' well if the USPS said
     they
     > delivered, the vendor is not responsible since they can show it
     was sent.
     > They are not responsible.
     > Anyway after a couple weeks it just showed up from the USPS.
     > It was temp lost in shipping but came through eventually.
     > Rich
     >
     > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 7:03 AM [9]bflesland at gmail.com
     > <[10]bflesland at gmail.com>
     > wrote:
     >
     >>A  A  All,
     >>
     >>A  A  Looks like I have a problem, and I would like to hear your
     suggestions
     >>A  A  on how to solve it.
     >>
     >>A  A  Issue: The car parts repair company declared monetary value
     way too
     low
     >>A  A  on my overhauled parts, when shipping them back to me.
     >>
     >>A  A  Shipping carrier (UPS) have now most probably lost the
     parts.
     >>
     >>A  A  They are currently investigating the whereabouts of them.
     >>
     >>A  A  What should I do now if my parts are in fact gone?
     >>
     >>A  A  I will probably get to know this the coming week.
     >>
     >>A  A  Should I go after the company that did the overhaul and
     refurbishment
     >>A  A  of my parts?
     >>
     >>A  A  They declared the value to about 15% of real value when
     delivering
     them
     >>A  A  to the carrier.
     >>
     >>A  A  Declared value is even less than it cost me to have the
     parts
     >>A  A  refurbished! I did not know this before I started asking
     questions
     >>A  A  where my parts where.
     >>
     >>A  A  Real value is what it will cost me to buy these "hard to
     find parts"
     >>A  A  new, today.
     >>
     >>A  A  Appreciate your thoughts, guys & gals.
     >>
     >>A  A  Cheers Bjoern

References

   1. mailto:byrdjf at embarqmail.com
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   3. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com
   5. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com
   6. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   7. mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   8. mailto:richbhoppe at gmail.com
   9. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com
  10. mailto:bflesland at gmail.com


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