[DeTomaso] Radiator

Curt Hall cuvee at sbcglobal.net
Tue Oct 30 00:42:22 EDT 2018 

On that "Last thought"
Tire Life...I'm sure Most of us change tires because of Old Age, not because We where them out?
Gas Mileage... Not sure Anyone bought there Pantera because it gets Great Mileage!
Acceleration...A stock Pantera Accelerates Pretty damn well, but you can always use More HP! lol
Brakes...Good working Brake are important, in this case BIGGER is Better! Yeah I said it!
Handling...I'm sure our Pantera's will Handle better then most of Us will push them!
As for the Extra Weight...Yup, many of Us (ME) could stand to lose a few pounds! OK, maybe more then a few! lolAnd..if your Wife/Girl Friend asks if her Butt look Big in these Jeans the answer is NO! Honey!
Just my .02 centsCurt   

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  On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Chuck and Linda Huber<lindahuber at cox.net> wrote:   "Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other things..."

So Jack - you are saying we should all lose weight?  (Or not bring the wives (or husbands, as applicable) with us when driving).

&;->

Chuck



-----Original Message-----
From: jderyke at aol.com [mailto:jderyke at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
To: djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; audionut at hushmail.com
Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator

 Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water in your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of the EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a swimming pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in some tap water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water for your cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map and two houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles apart. If a couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST use an anti-acid additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really low, a sacrificial anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have been dealing with this for 55 years and have everything in stock.

Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is less than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when tightening things into aluminum.

Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using since the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days of the split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this Forum have described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range, put one lead in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If you see more than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast your alloy parts are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too coarse in its ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must. Mine cost $250 in 1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will not work. Its like trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.

Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
To: audionut <audionut at hushmail.com>
CC: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator

  Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
  Dave
  Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone

  ------ Original message------
  From: [1]audionut at hushmail.com
  Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
  To: [2]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
  Cc:
  Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
  Hi Dave--
  I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650).  10 years ago, with simple
  tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
  sucker fans.
  I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
  it--  the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it ever
  leaked.
  I change coolant every 2 years.
  Best of luck!
  John
  73L #5909
  Sent using Hushmail
  On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:

    I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
    suggestions on a replacement.
    Thanks,Dave
    Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone

References

  1. mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
  2. mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
  3. mailto:%20djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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   On that "Last thought"
   Tire Life...I'm sure Most of us change tires because of Old Age, not
   because We where them out?
   Gas Mileage... Not sure Anyone bought there Pantera because it gets
   Great Mileage!
   Acceleration...A stock Pantera Accelerates Pretty damn well, but you
   can always use More HP! lol
   Brakes...Good working Brake are important, in this case BIGGER is
   Better! Yeah I said it!
   Handling...I'm sure our Pantera's will Handle better then most of Us
   will push them!
   As for the Extra Weight...Yup, many of Us (ME) could stand to lose a
   few pounds! OK, maybe more then a few! lol
   And..if your Wife/Girl Friend asks if her Butt look Big in these Jeans
   the answer is NO! Honey!
   Just my .02 cents
   Curt

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   On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Chuck and Linda Huber
   <lindahuber at cox.net> wrote:

   "Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts
   tire life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of
   other things..."
   So Jack - you are saying we should all lose weight?  (Or not bring the
   wives (or husbands, as applicable) with us when driving).
   &;->
   Chuck
   -----Original Message-----
   From: [2]jderyke at aol.com [mailto:[3]jderyke at aol.com]
   Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
   To: [4]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; [5]audionut at hushmail.com
   Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
   Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water in
   your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of the
   EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a
   swimming pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in
   some tap water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water
   for your cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map
   and two houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles
   apart. If a couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST
   use an anti-acid additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really
   low, a sacrificial anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have
   been dealing with this for 55 years and have everything in stock.
   Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is
   less than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the
   black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip
   soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when tightening
   things into aluminum.
   Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using
   since the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days
   of the split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this
   Forum have described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range,
   put one lead in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If
   you see more than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast
   your alloy parts are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too
   coarse in its ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must.
   Mine cost $250 in 1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will
   not work. Its like trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
   Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire
   life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other
   things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: [7]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <[8]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
   To: audionut <[9]audionut at hushmail.com>
   CC: [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   <[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
     Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
     Dave
     Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
     ------ Original message------
     From: [1][12]audionut at hushmail.com
     Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
     To: [2][13]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
     Cc:
     Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
     Hi Dave--
     I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650).  10 years ago, with simple
     tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
     sucker fans.
     I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
     it--  the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it
   ever
     leaked.
     I change coolant every 2 years.
     Best of luck!
     John
     73L #5909
     Sent using Hushmail
     On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] [14]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
       I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
       suggestions on a replacement.
       Thanks,Dave
       Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
   References
     1. mailto:[15]audionut at hushmail.com
     2. mailto:[16]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
     3. mailto:%[17]20djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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