[DeTomaso] Radiator
Steve
steve at snclocks.com
Tue Oct 30 10:38:31 EDT 2018
If you have to replace your tires due to old age - sell your car! We have 7 cars - we replace tires because they are worn out - not because we don't drive the cars. Nothing should be easier than wearing out the back tires on a Pantera!
Drive em!
Stephen 5332
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From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Curt Hall
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 9:42 PM
To: lindahuber at cox.net; jderyke at aol.com; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
On that "Last thought"
Tire Life...I'm sure Most of us change tires because of Old Age, not because We where them out?
Gas Mileage... Not sure Anyone bought there Pantera because it gets Great Mileage!
Acceleration...A stock Pantera Accelerates Pretty damn well, but you can always use More HP! lol Brakes...Good working Brake are important, in this case BIGGER is Better! Yeah I said it!
Handling...I'm sure our Pantera's will Handle better then most of Us will push them!
As for the Extra Weight...Yup, many of Us (ME) could stand to lose a few pounds! OK, maybe more then a few! lolAnd..if your Wife/Girl Friend asks if her Butt look Big in these Jeans the answer is NO! Honey!
Just my .02 centsCurt
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Chuck and Linda Huber< <mailto:lindahuber at cox.net> lindahuber at cox.net> wrote: "Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other things..."
So Jack - you are saying we should all lose weight? (Or not bring the wives (or husbands, as applicable) with us when driving).
&;->
Chuck
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From: <mailto:jderyke at aol.com> jderyke at aol.com [ <mailto:jderyke at aol.com> mailto:jderyke at aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
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Cc: <mailto:detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water in your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of the EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a swimming pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in some tap water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water for your cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map and two houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles apart. If a couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST use an anti-acid additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really low, a sacrificial anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have been dealing with this for 55 years and have everything in stock.
Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is less than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when tightening things into aluminum.
Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using since the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days of the split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this Forum have described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range, put one lead in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If you see more than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast your alloy parts are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too coarse in its ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must. Mine cost $250 in 1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will not work. Its like trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
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To: audionut < <mailto:audionut at hushmail.com> audionut at hushmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
Dave
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Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
To: [2] <mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
Cc:
Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Hi Dave--
I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650). 10 years ago, with simple
tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
sucker fans.
I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
it-- the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it ever
leaked.
I change coolant every 2 years.
Best of luck!
John
73L #5909
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On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] <mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com> djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
suggestions on a replacement.
Thanks,Dave
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
References
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2. <mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com> mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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If you have to replace your tires due to old age - sell your car! We
have 7 cars - we replace tires because they are worn out - not because
we don't drive the cars. Nothing should be easier than wearing out the
back tires on a Pantera!
Drive em!
Stephen 5332
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-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf Of Curt Hall
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 9:42 PM
To: lindahuber at cox.net; jderyke at aol.com;
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
On that "Last thought"
Tire Life...I'm sure Most of us change tires because of Old Age, not
because We where them out?
Gas Mileage... Not sure Anyone bought there Pantera because it gets
Great Mileage!
Acceleration...A stock Pantera Accelerates Pretty damn well, but you
can always use More HP! lol Brakes...Good working Brake are important,
in this case BIGGER is Better! Yeah I said it!
Handling...I'm sure our Pantera's will Handle better then most of Us
will push them!
As for the Extra Weight...Yup, many of Us (ME) could stand to lose a
few pounds! OK, maybe more then a few! lolAnd..if your Wife/Girl Friend
asks if her Butt look Big in these Jeans the answer is NO! Honey!
Just my .02 centsCurt
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Chuck and Linda
Huber<[1]lindahuber at cox.net> wrote: "Last thought: Carrying extra
weight around in your Pantera impacts tire life, gas mileage,
acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other things..."
So Jack - you are saying we should all lose weight? (Or not bring the
wives (or husbands, as applicable) with us when driving).
&;->
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: [2]jderyke at aol.com [[3]mailto:jderyke at aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 7:47 PM
To: [4]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com; [5]audionut at hushmail.com
Cc: [6]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Before you lay out cash to fix an aluminum radiator, check the water in
your area. Some parts of the U.S, in spite of the best efforts of the
EPA, has water that is almost as corrosive as Coco-Cola! Go to a
swimming pool shop and get a roll of pH paper for about $2. Dip it in
some tap water at your house- or wherever you'll be getting the water
for your cooling system. Municipal water systems are all over the map
and two houses next door to each other may have sources 100 miles
apart. If a couple of quick tests show the pH is below 7.0, you MUST
use an anti-acid additive like Larry Stock mentioned. If its really
low, a sacrificial anode may be needed as well. Corvette shops have
been dealing with this for 55 years and have everything in stock.
Second thing to watch: the pressure in most of the cooling system is
less than 15 psi, so using an 18" wrench to tighten fittings like the
black-iron water piping in your house is guaranteed to split or strip
soft aluminum bosses. Use teflon tape and a gentle hand when tightening
things into aluminum.
Finally, there a neat little test the Corvette guys have been using
since the mid-'60s. They have ALL had aluminum radiators since the days
of the split-window 'Vette, with few failures such as members of this
Forum have described. Take a GOOD VOM, set on the lowest voltage range,
put one lead in the coolant in the tank and ground the other lead. If
you see more than about 70 millivolts, this is a measure of how fast
your alloy parts are dissolving. If you get no reading, your VOM is too
coarse in its ranges. Borrow one from a TV repair shop if you must.
Mine cost $250 in 1985- a $7.95 special from Harbor Freight simply will
not work. Its like trying to use a yardstick to measure crank bearings.
Last thought: Carrying extra weight around in your Pantera impacts tire
life, gas mileage, acceleration, brakes, handling and a host of other
things; it's not 'just for racers'. Good luck- J DeRyke
-----Original Message-----
From: [7]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com <[8]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com>
To: audionut <[9]audionut at hushmail.com>
CC: [10]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
<[11]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:55
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Thanks John. Waiting to hear from the Rad shop if they can repair.
Dave
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
------ Original message------
From: [1][12]audionut at hushmail.com
Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 4:21 PM
To: [2][13]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com;
Cc:
Subject:Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator
Hi Dave--
I also have a 73 (stock 351 w/Holley 650). 10 years ago, with simple
tools, I installed a Fluidyne aluminum radiator/lay down kit and 2
sucker fans.
I have driven it in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic, you name
it-- the car has never even come close to overheating nor has it
ever
leaked.
I change coolant every 2 years.
Best of luck!
John
73L #5909
Sent using Hushmail
On 10/27/2018 at 11:46 AM,[3] [14]djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com wrote:
I might need a new radiator for my 73 pantera. Would appreciate
suggestions on a replacement.
Thanks,Dave
Sent from my Verizon LG Smartphone
References
1. [15]mailto:audionut at hushmail.com
2. [16]mailto:djenkins at vanguardtrailer.com
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