[DeTomaso] For Sale

Steve Lisa stevelisa at patentit.com
Fri Jun 8 00:38:17 EDT 2018 

Mark,

After buying cars off of Ebay, Hemmings, Craigslist, RaceCar Direct,
RacDezrt and the Scottsdale car auctions, I personally have come to the
conclusion that BAT is becoming the place to go to sell (or maybe even
buy!) a good car.  I have no direct experience yet buying or selling on
BAT, but have friends who have done so and have watched with a silent
addiction every morning.  In contrast, the other "options" left me surprised
 in some important ways and in some cases paying premiums for that surprise
when I ended up with the car.

Of course, I could blame the glasses of wine before hitting "bid," but I
have on occasional been quite rational, had PPI's done, spent the money on
airfare to go look at a car, and walked away due to fairly obvious problems
missed or underestimated by the inspector (and of course left unstated in
the advert/listing).  I now go so far as to request (and pay for)
compression and leak down tests -- as I did recently on a Pantera that was
for sale).  But, I think that "unknown" on the "silent sale" sites keeps
the price unfairly low for the exception -- the really good cars well known
to an educated group.

This forum can help solve the "unknown" if members are willing to talk
*honestly* on BAT about the well-known Pantera's.  For an uncommon car like
a Pantera, known to a focused group of Pantera experts, I think BAT should
work for a good car -- but clearly won't work for a Pantera with problems.
This group would be all over it.  However, it would not take long for
people to get to know that a car listed on BAT that is favorably and
frequently commented upon by experts is a "good" Pantera to buy.

Anyway - just my thoughts.

Regards,

Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888

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On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:48 PM, mark peterson via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

> After almost 20 yrs of ownership, I have come to the realization that my
> ‘71 Pantera needs a better home.
> With 47,572 miles on the odometer, the reason I’m looking to sell it is
> that I don’t drive it.
>
> The car is no stranger to the members of POCA. Don Byars restored it, RBT
> freshened the ZF and the
> motor was professionally rebuilt. Heck, even Dave Adler defended it in
> court during my divorce.  The question for the group is--in addition to the
> POCA website, is there a preferable site to advertise/sell a Pantera, such
> as BaT, Hemmings, E-Bay, etc. or consignment?  Thanks for the input.  Mark
> 1789
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   Mark,A
   After buying cars off of Ebay, Hemmings, Craigslist, RaceCar Direct,
   RacDezrt and the Scottsdale car auctions, I personally have come to the
   conclusion that BAT is becoming the place to go to sell (or maybe even
   buy!) a good car.A  I have no direct experience yet buying or selling
   on BAT, but have friends who have done so and have watched with a
   silent addiction every morning.A  In contrast, the other "options" left
   me surprisedA in some important ways and in some casesA paying premiums
   for that surprise when I ended up with the car.A A
   Of course, I could blame the glasses of wine before hitting "bid," but
   I have on occasional been quite rational, had PPI's done, spent the
   money on airfare to go look at a car, and walked away due to fairly
   obvious problems missed or underestimated by the inspector (and of
   course left unstated in the advert/listing).A  I now go so far as to
   request (and pay for) compression and leak down tests -- as I did
   recently on a Pantera that was for sale).A  But, I think that "unknown"
   on the "silent sale" sites keeps the price unfairly low for the
   exception -- the really good cars well known to an educated group.A A
   This forum can help solve the "unknown" if members are willing to talk
   honestly on BAT about the well-known Pantera's.A  For an uncommon car
   like a Pantera, known to a focused group of Pantera experts, I think
   BAT should work for a good car -- but clearly won't work for a Pantera
   with problems.A  This group would be all over it.A  However, it would
   not take long for people to get to know that a car listed on BAT that
   is favorably and frequently commented upon by experts is a "good"
   Pantera to buy.
   Anyway - just my thoughts.

   Regards,A
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 312-320-5888
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   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55 E.
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   you.
   On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:48 PM, mark peterson via DeTomaso
   <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     After almost 20 yrs of ownership, I have come to the realization
     that my a71 Pantera needs a better home.
     With 47,572 miles on the odometer, the reason Iam looking to sell it
     is that I donat drive it.
     The car is no stranger to the members of POCA. Don Byars restored
     it, RBT freshened the ZF and the
     motor was professionally rebuilt. Heck, even Dave Adler defended it
     in court during my divorce.A  The question for the group is--in
     addition to the POCA website, is there a preferable site to
     advertise/sell a Pantera, such as BaT, Hemmings, E-Bay, etc. or
     consignment?A  Thanks for the input.A  Mark 1789
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