[DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings installation

Ken Green kenn_green at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 19 15:33:43 EST 2018


You can email Marino at marino at mapcycle.com  
I just sent an email and asked in he still has them.  I also need a set.
Ken

      From: Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com>
 To: "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings installation
   
  Is Pantera East still around and selling these bushings any longer?
  Seems like a good approach but I couldn't find them on the net.


  Mike Drew:  you mentioned that you didn't think it was a good way to go
  but didn't elaborate.  I can't see why it would be any different than
  using poly bushings which replace the entire OEM bushing.


  I still have OEM bushing but at some point will need to replace them :
  )


  Mike Reilly


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  Pantdino via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:18:05 AM
  To: julian_kift at hotmail.com
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  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings
  installation

  I guess the critical question is whether one has an hydraulic press and
  the exact sizes of sockets or whatever.
  I don't and I don't like to have random machine shop guys have the
  opportunity to mess up my A arms
  The Pantera East bushings have been in place for 14 years and don't
  squeak. I have never greased them.
  The other point is that leaving the old outer sleeve in place
  strengthens the structure.
  If you use the stock rubber bushings, you should torque down the A arm
  bolts with the suspension in the normal, LOADED position. Otherwise the
  bushing will be under tension constantly
  Jim
  Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
  On Friday, January 19, 2018, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
  wrote:
  If you are going down that road, I've got a ford 2.0 pinto engine you
  can have, it's much easier to drop in than a V8 and you'll never notice
  the difference......
  Seriously, the bushings are not hard to do, but you do need a press and
  a sleeve (or old socket) just a tad smaller diameter than the a-arm to
  press directly on the bushing outer, anything that presses on the inner
  or rubber is futile.
  As many options there are in the poly bushings, I still think the oem
  rubber style provide the best ride for a street car and no annual
  greasing required.
  Julian
  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
  Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:33 AM
  To: 'Pantdino'
  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings
  installation

  Thanks Jim.

  Sort of now wish I had not started pressing out the outer sleeve.
  Are you pressing the smaller flange through the bore of the outer
  sleeve or pressing from the end you just cut off.
  (The smaller flange is what I am pressing on to push the outer sleeve
  out.)
  Would you be able to measure what the inside bore of that outer sleeve
  is once the rubber is removed.  I would like to know and add to my
  notes.
  Joe
  -----Original Message-----
  From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
  Behalf Of Pantdino via DeTomaso
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 23:43 PM
  To: MikeLDrew at aol.com; julian_kift at hotmail.com
  Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
  Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings installation
  Just replaced my bushings today with the ones from Pantera East.
  Here are the steps:
  1) cut off smaller metal flange of the stock bushing with reciprocating
  saw
  2) you can now see the rubber portion of the bushing between the inner
  and outer sleeves. Drill multiple small holes in the rubber component
  of the factory bushing, parallel to the long axis. This destroys the
  integrity of the bushing
  3) push out the inner sleeve of the stock bushing. The rubber comes
  with it
  4) coat everything with the silicone grease supplied and slide the
  urethane portion of the new bushing into the outer sleeve of the stock
  bushing, which is still in place in the A arm
  5) slide the inner sleeve of the new bushing into place
  Literally takes maybe 10 minutes per bushing.
  That's it.  No special tools or press needed, no danger of messing up
  the fairly frail A arm
  I ordered another set to have on hand.
  Jim Oddie
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   You can email Marino at marino at mapcycle.com
   I just sent an email and asked in he still has them.  I also need a
   set.
   Ken
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   From: Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com>
   To: "<detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>"
   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:40 AM
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings
   installation
     Is Pantera East still around and selling these bushings any longer?
     Seems like a good approach but I couldn't find them on the net.
     Mike Drew:  you mentioned that you didn't think it was a good way to
   go
     but didn't elaborate.  I can't see why it would be any different than
     using poly bushings which replace the entire OEM bushing.
     I still have OEM bushing but at some point will need to replace them
   :
     )
     Mike Reilly
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
     Pantdino via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:18:05 AM
     To: [3]julian_kift at hotmail.com
     Cc: [4]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings
     installation
     I guess the critical question is whether one has an hydraulic press
   and
     the exact sizes of sockets or whatever.
     I don't and I don't like to have random machine shop guys have the
     opportunity to mess up my A arms
     The Pantera East bushings have been in place for 14 years and don't
     squeak. I have never greased them.
     The other point is that leaving the old outer sleeve in place
     strengthens the structure.
     If you use the stock rubber bushings, you should torque down the A
   arm
     bolts with the suspension in the normal, LOADED position. Otherwise
   the
     bushing will be under tension constantly
     Jim
     Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
     On Friday, January 19, 2018, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
     wrote:
     If you are going down that road, I've got a ford 2.0 pinto engine you
     can have, it's much easier to drop in than a V8 and you'll never
   notice
     the difference......
     Seriously, the bushings are not hard to do, but you do need a press
   and
     a sleeve (or old socket) just a tad smaller diameter than the a-arm
   to
     press directly on the bushing outer, anything that presses on the
   inner
     or rubber is futile.
     As many options there are in the poly bushings, I still think the oem
     rubber style provide the best ride for a street car and no annual
     greasing required.
     Julian
     From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on
   behalf of
     Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
     Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 7:33 AM
     To: 'Pantdino'
     Cc: [8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings
     installation
     Thanks Jim.
     Sort of now wish I had not started pressing out the outer sleeve.
     Are you pressing the smaller flange through the bore of the outer
     sleeve or pressing from the end you just cut off.
     (The smaller flange is what I am pressing on to push the outer sleeve
     out.)
     Would you be able to measure what the inside bore of that outer
   sleeve
     is once the rubber is removed.  I would like to know and add to my
     notes.
     Joe
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     Behalf Of Pantdino via DeTomaso
     Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 23:43 PM
     To: [10]MikeLDrew at aol.com; [11]julian_kift at hotmail.com
     Cc: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera East urethane A arm bushings installation
     Just replaced my bushings today with the ones from Pantera East.
     Here are the steps:
     1) cut off smaller metal flange of the stock bushing with
   reciprocating
     saw
     2) you can now see the rubber portion of the bushing between the
   inner
     and outer sleeves. Drill multiple small holes in the rubber component
     of the factory bushing, parallel to the long axis. This destroys the
     integrity of the bushing
     3) push out the inner sleeve of the stock bushing. The rubber comes
     with it
     4) coat everything with the silicone grease supplied and slide the
     urethane portion of the new bushing into the outer sleeve of the
   stock
     bushing, which is still in place in the A arm
     5) slide the inner sleeve of the new bushing into place
     Literally takes maybe 10 minutes per bushing.
     That's it.  No special tools or press needed, no danger of messing up
     the fairly frail A arm
     I ordered another set to have on hand.
     Jim Oddie
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