[DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Thu Sep 7 14:26:44 EDT 2017

<<he used a steel strap for the front hood, witch layd over the battery and
made a short >>

This reminds me of what my best friend did when he was 8 years old. His dad
was working on the car in the driveway. "son bring be the gas can from the
garage." My friend got the metal 5 gallon gas can and set it right next to
his dad, right on top of the battery!

Lots of sparks and screams from his dad, but that was it.

Larry (we are all alive by the grace of God) - Cleveland

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Of Roland
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

How many Guaras got burned in case of bad italien fuel line plumbing?

As we all know only two Guaras cought fire. One was the former Steve
Wilkinson car with 100% US fuel lines and the other was the one i bought and
on that i'm sure the cars wasn't driveable when it cought fire ;-). A third
one was Kjell Jansson car, that caught a small battery fire, because he used
a steel strap for the front hood, witch layd over the battery and made a
short cut. Talking about "several" burned Guaras is.....

Roland Jaeckel

Am 07.09.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso:

   Julian,

   I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was just

   a clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right

   though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable worth,

   especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras

   that are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not

   unlike Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate propensity

   to burst into flame with very little provocation....)

   Mike

   Sent from my iPad

   On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift
<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

   wrote:

   Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's

   where a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is

   what the market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot of

   space, the Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.

   At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts to

   marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.

   Julian

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   Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

   Guys,

   A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that

   were coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that I

   believed they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility

   after having been abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and marketed

   by a hopeful punter who was seeking something on the order of 100k

   Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.

   After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up for

   auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.  It

   was estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera

   was estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.

   Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....

   Mike

   Sent from my iPad

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   <<he used a steel strap for the front hood, witch layd over the battery
   and made a short >>

   This reminds me of what my best friend did when he was 8 years old. His
   dad was working on the car in the driveway. "son bring be the gas can
   from the garage." My friend got the metal 5 gallon gas can and set it
   right next to his dad, right on top of the battery!

   Lots of sparks and screams from his dad, but that was it.

   Larry (we are all alive by the grace of God) - Cleveland

   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
   Behalf Of Roland
   Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 2:05 PM
   To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

   How many Guaras got burned in case of bad italien fuel line plumbing?

   As we all know only two Guaras cought fire. One was the former Steve
   Wilkinson car with 100% US fuel lines and the other was the one i
   bought and on that i'm sure the cars wasn't driveable when it cought
   fire ;-). A third one was Kjell Jansson car, that caught a small
   battery fire, because he used a steel strap for the front hood, witch
   layd over the battery and made a short cut. Talking about "several"
   burned Guaras is.....

   Roland Jaeckel

   Am 07.09.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso:

      Julian,

      I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was
   just

      a clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're
   right

      though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable
   worth,

      especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out
   Guaras

      that are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not

      unlike Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate
   propensity

      to burst into flame with very little provocation....)

      Mike

      Sent from my iPad

      On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift
   <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>

      wrote:

      Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's

      where a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is

      what the market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot
   of

      space, the Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.

      At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts
   to

      marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.

      Julian

        __________________________________________________________________

      From: DeTomaso
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   s at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf

      of Mike Drew via DeTomaso
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   olist.com>

      Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:22 AM

      To: De Tomaso Forum

      Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

      Guys,

      A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that

      were coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that
   I

      believed they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility

      after having been abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and
   marketed

      by a hopeful punter who was seeking something on the order of 100k

      Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.

      After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up
   for

      auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.
   It

      was estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera

      was estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.

      Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....

      Mike

      Sent from my iPad

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