[DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

Roland willibillie at live.de
Thu Sep 7 14:04:32 EDT 2017


How many Guaras got burned in case of bad italien fuel line plumbing?

As we all know only two Guaras cought fire. One was the former Steve Wilkinson car with 100% US fuel lines and the other was the one i bought and on that i'm sure the cars wasn't driveable when it cought fire ;-). A third one was Kjell Jansson car, that caught a small battery fire, because he used a steel strap for the front hood, witch layd over the battery and made a short cut. Talking about "several" burned Guaras is.....

Roland Jaeckel

Am 07.09.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso:

   Julian,

   I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was just
   a clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right
   though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable worth,
   especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras
   that are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not
   unlike Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate propensity
   to burst into flame with very little provocation....)

   Mike
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   On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com><mailto:[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

   Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's
   where a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is
   what the market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot of
   space, the Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.

   At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts to
   marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.

   Julian
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   Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

   Guys,
   A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that
   were coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that I
   believed they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility
   after having been abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and marketed
   by a hopeful punter who was seeking something on the order of 100k
   Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.
   After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up for
   auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.  It
   was estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera
   was estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.
   Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....
   Mike
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   How many Guaras got burned in case of bad italien fuel line plumbing?

   As we all know only two Guaras cought fire. One was the former Steve
   Wilkinson car with 100% US fuel lines and the other was the one i
   bought and on that i'm sure the cars wasn't driveable when it cought
   fire ;-). A third one was Kjell Jansson car, that caught a small
   battery fire, because he used a steel strap for the front hood, witch
   layd over the battery and made a short cut. Talking about "several"
   burned Guaras is.....

   Roland Jaeckel

   Am 07.09.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Mike Drew via DeTomaso:

   Julian,

   I don't think the Guara body was a production body. I think it was just
   a clay or plastic mockup, but I'm not positive about that. You're right
   though--if it was a genuine body it would have had considerable worth,
   especially if it could be mated to one of the several burned-out Guaras
   that are out there. (Guaras had defective fuel line plumbing, not
   unlike Lamborghini Gallardos, and have shown an unfortunate propensity
   to burst into flame with very little provocation....)

   Mike
   Sent from my iPad

   On Sep 7, 2017, at 07:35, Julian Kift [1]<[1]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   wrote:

   Holy cow Batman, I'm sure the seller is devastated, I guess that's
   where a 'no reserve' auction can bite you. But as they say value is
   what the market determines and automobilia like this takes up a lot of
   space, the Nuevo Pantera probably deserves to be in a museum.

   At that price the Guara body may represent a cheap source of parts to
   marry up with the burnt out shell of a Guara PIM still has for sale.

   Julian
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   From: DeTomaso [2]<[2]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf
   of Mike Drew via DeTomaso [3]<[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:22 AM
   To: De Tomaso Forum
   Subject: [DeTomaso] De Tomaso mock ups sell for realistic prices

   Guys,
   A few days ago we were speaking of the De Tomaso mock-up bodies that
   were coming up for auction in Sotheby's in England. I reported that I
   believed they had simply been snatched from the De Tomaso facility
   after having been abandoned by De Tomaso, then tarted up and marketed
   by a hopeful punter who was seeking something on the order of 100k
   Euros for the Nuevo Pantera.
   After years of trying and failing to find a buyer, he put them up for
   auction. The Guara was just a bare body with no chassis or wheels.  It
   was estimated at $40-51k but sold for only $4,536. The Nuevo Pantera
   was estimated at $90-116k but sold for only $20,737.
   Both represent very realistic selling prices in my view.....
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
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