[DeTomaso] !0 X15 Campi Wheels

[Mike Drew]

Julian,

No. They are not sand cast, they are pressure cast in metal molds. MUCH better. 

The original wheels were pressure cast from the late 1970s on...Jack says the 1971-74 wheels were gravity cast in wooden molds. 

Mike

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On Mar 26, 2017, at 10:42, Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   The Marvic wheels are fabricated in a traditional sand cast fashion
>   as I understand, the molds wear with each successive casting so in
>   Mike's analogy even twin brothers have discernible differences! It's
>   not quite as easy as taking a series of laser measurements from an
>   original wheel (and even then the oem wheels will differ for the above
>   reasons) and throwing the results into a CNC program.
>   I believe this is part of the challenge that Cesare Magistrali faced
>   when he acquired 'original' Group 4 wheels molds that were for the most
>   part unusable.
>   Julian
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of
>   Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>   Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:29 AM
>   To: Ed Mendez
>   Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; Gray Gregory
>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] !0 X15 Campi Wheels
> 
>   Ed,
>   There are numerous detail differences. Asking me to describe them is
>   like asking me to describe why a person doesn't look identical to his
>   younger brother.  There are obvious familial resemblances, but numerous
>   detail differences. They aren't bad, just different.
>   I confess to being a bit disappointed when I saw them in person. The
>   owner of Marvic was standing there and I mad a gentle inquiry. As a
>   layman, I figured if somebody was going to go to the tremendous effort
>   to replicate something, why not make it perfect instead of just close?
>   He shrugged and more or less said he did the best he could, but somehow
>   there was something in his manufacturing process preventing him from
>   making it an exact copy.
>   These wheels look great, and if they were on a car likely nobody would
>   know the difference. But if one was viewed side-by-side with an
>   original, the differences would be apparent.
>   Like looking at a guy next to his younger brother....
>   Mike
>   Sent from my iPhone
>   On Mar 26, 2017, at 9:27, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>> In what way don't they match the originals? I was talking with him
>   when he was making the molds directly from the DeTomaso factory
>   drawings. He sent me pictures of the factory drawings he was working
>   from.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 08:05, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
>   <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marvic does advertise new 8-inch wheels. But I would never pay $1800
>   each for one when originals can be had all day long for $100-200.
>>> 
>>> The Marvic 10-inch wheels are a great thing, but they don't match
>   the originals perfectly.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 7:01, Gray Gregory <rgg at gregorycook.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Does Marvic make 8" reproductions as well? It would be nice to have
>   a matched set of new wheels if going the route. If no which style 8"
>   campi's were used on cars originally equipped with the 8" 10" combo?
>>>> 
>>>> Gray
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>   On Behalf Of Charles McCall
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 4:04 AM
>>>> To: 'William Schauer' <wrschauer at sbcglobal.net>;
>   detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] !0 X15 Campi Wheels
>>>> 
>>>> William - since you are looking for opinions here's one more...
>>>> 
>>>> I agree that the original Campy look is really special, and the 10"
>   rears look great. If it were my car, I'd go with Marvic reproductions -
>   identical to the originals, the same lightweight material (magnesium)
>   as the originals, and new. Don't see the downside to this solution, and
>   it may even be cheaper than buying 30 year old originals
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>   On Behalf Of William Schauer
>>>> Sent: domingo, 26 de marzo de 2017 0:05
>>>> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] !0 X15 Campi Wheels
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> New to the list, so apologies if this is an improper use of the
>   list.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just bought a 1973 Pantera that is pretty much totally stock.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Want to keep the look but prefer the slight change in look of the
>   8" X !5"
>>>> front and 10" X 15 rear wheels instead of the 7x15/8x15 - but need
>   the 10x15's
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Understand Marvic in Italy makes as new magnesium and Roin also in
>   Italy makes aluminum copies.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Want to exhaust my search for used original 10" X 15" Campanolo GTS
>   wheels before I go to aftermarket.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please let me know if you have 1 or 2 or know of any.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> William Schauer
>>>> 
>>>> <[3]mailto:wrschauer at sbcglobal.net> wrschauer at sbcglobal.net
>>>> 
>>>> 630-513-6700
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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