[DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken

Jeff Detrich jjdetrich at gmail.com
Mon Aug 21 10:38:20 EDT 2017


Thanks, Jack, for bring up the sphereballs. I'm surprised it didn't come up
earlier.

Have they gone out of style or something?

Jeff

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso <
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

>    I've seen a couple of rear bar straps broken. This is the small strap
>    thats welded to the lower rear a-arm. It cracks at one bolthole or
>    weld, possibly due to running poly on the ends- even with only stock
>    bars. If done, poly ends bind up as some compliance is needed on the
>    bar ends. Either use rubber on the ends or best is a Sphere-ball on the
>    end and poly in the middle for the pivot points. My 2 cents- J Deryke
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
>    To: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
>    Sent: Sat, Aug 19, 2017 10:23 am
>    Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
>    Oops...
>    You didn't mention where the failure occurred. Just looking, I would
>    say the weak spot is the transition from the bushing wrap and the flats
>    for bolting to frame.
>    I would think this could be improved just using a custom washer that
>    would hold the radius of that transition.
>    After making the attached sketch, I had a better thought to make the
>    washer thicker with a stepped bore and use a recessed allen head Joe
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>    Behalf Of B Hower via DeTomaso
>    Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:47 AM
>    To: Mike Drew
>    Cc: Detomaso Email List
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
>    Thanks for the input Mike,
>    I will have to do an upgrade I guess. But for now I happen to have an
>    extra that came along with the one I broke. Some nice guy sent me
>    several if you remember. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow
>    -- for there may not be ! )
>    From: Mike Drew <[2]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
>    To: B Hower <[3]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
>    Cc: Detomaso Email List <[4]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
>    Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:29 AM
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
>    Bud,
>    This is a common occurrence. The inner front sway bar brackets are
>    loaded more heavily than the others, and eventually one side breaks.
>    This then negates the function of the swaybar.
>    The stock clamp is simply underdesigned for its role. All the vendors
>    sell high bling machined billet aluminum sway bar brackets; although
>    their intent is primarily cosmetic function, they are actually rather
>    necessary precisely where you can't see them.....
>    Mike
>    Sent from my iPad
>    > On Aug 18, 2017, at 07:01, B Hower via DeTomaso
>    <[5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
>    >
>    > Lolita, Lolita, how you keep me busy ! !
>    > Anyone have information on why this might occur? She broke a (
>    >driver's
>    > side ) chrome plated one, which I replaced with a painted version.
>    >That
>    > one is now broken.
>    > Lolita broke another item 30:
>    > [1][6]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
>    > Thanks for help in advance,
>    > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not
>    >be
>    > ! )
>    >
>    > References
>    >
>    > 1. [7]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
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   Thanks, Jack, for bring up the sphereballs. I'm surprised it didn't
   come up earlier.A
   Have they gone out of style or something?
   Jeff

   On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <[1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

     A  A I've seen a couple of rear bar straps broken. This is the small
     strap
     A  A thats welded to the lower rear a-arm. It cracks at one bolthole
     or
     A  A weld, possibly due to running poly on the ends- even with only
     stock
     A  A bars. If done, poly ends bind up as some compliance is needed
     on the
     A  A bar ends. Either use rubber on the ends or best is a
     Sphere-ball on the
     A  A end and poly in the middle for the pivot points. My 2 cents- J
     Deryke
     A  A -----Original Message-----
     A  A From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[2]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
     A  A To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
     A  A Sent: Sat, Aug 19, 2017 10:23 am
     A  A Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
     A  A Oops...
     A  A You didn't mention where the failure occurred. Just looking, I
     would
     A  A say the weak spot is the transition from the bushing wrap and
     the flats
     A  A for bolting to frame.
     A  A I would think this could be improved just using a custom washer
     that
     A  A would hold the radius of that transition.
     A  A After making the attached sketch, I had a better thought to
     make the
     A  A washer thicker with a stepped bore and use a recessed allen
     head Joe
     A  A -----Original Message-----
     A  A From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@
     server.detomasolist.com] On
     A  A Behalf Of B Hower via DeTomaso
     A  A Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:47 AM
     A  A To: Mike Drew
     A  A Cc: Detomaso Email List
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
     A  A Thanks for the input Mike,
     A  A I will have to do an upgrade I guess. But for now I happen to
     have an
     A  A extra that came along with the one I broke. Some nice guy sent
     me
     A  A several if you remember. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no
     tomorrow
     A  A -- for there may not be ! )
     A  A From: Mike Drew <[2][5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
     A  A To: B Hower <[3][6]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
     A  A Cc: Detomaso Email List <[4][7]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
     A  A Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:29 AM
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
     A  A Bud,
     A  A This is a common occurrence. The inner front sway bar brackets
     are
     A  A loaded more heavily than the others, and eventually one side
     breaks.
     A  A This then negates the function of the swaybar.
     A  A The stock clamp is simply underdesigned for its role. All the
     vendors
     A  A sell high bling machined billet aluminum sway bar brackets;
     although
     A  A their intent is primarily cosmetic function, they are actually
     rather
     A  A necessary precisely where you can't see them.....
     A  A Mike
     A  A Sent from my iPad
     A  A > On Aug 18, 2017, at 07:01, B Hower via DeTomaso
     A  A <[5][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
     A  A >
     A  A > Lolita, Lolita, how you keep me busy ! !
     A  A > Anyone have information on why this might occur? She broke a
     (
     A  A >driver's
     A  A > side ) chrome plated one, which I replaced with a painted
     version.
     A  A >That
     A  A > one is now broken.
     A  A > Lolita broke another item 30:
     A  A > [1][6][9]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
     webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
     A  A > Thanks for help in advance,
     A  A > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there
     may not
     A  A >be
     A  A > ! )
     A  A >
     A  A > References
     A  A >
     A  A > 1. [7][10]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
     webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
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     A  A >
     A  A > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must
     not
     A  A > exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list
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