[DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken

jderyke at aol.com jderyke at aol.com
Mon Aug 21 15:48:14 EDT 2017


Dunno.  I know that all the vendors now make their own shiny aluminum version of Hall's plastic ones like I have.
Cheers- J Deryke


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From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 7:39 am
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken


Thanks, Jack, for bring up the sphereballs. I'm surprised it didn't
come up earlier.A
Have they gone out of style or something?
Jeff

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
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A A I've seen a couple of rear bar straps broken. This is the small
strap
A A thats welded to the lower rear a-arm. It cracks at one bolthole
or
A A weld, possibly due to running poly on the ends- even with only
stock
A A bars. If done, poly ends bind up as some compliance is needed
on the
A A bar ends. Either use rubber on the ends or best is a
Sphere-ball on the
A A end and poly in the middle for the pivot points. My 2 cents- J
Deryke
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[2]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
A A To: detomaso <[3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
A A Sent: Sat, Aug 19, 2017 10:23 am
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
A A Oops...
A A You didn't mention where the failure occurred. Just looking, I
would
A A say the weak spot is the transition from the bushing wrap and
the flats
A A for bolting to frame.
A A I would think this could be improved just using a custom washer
that
A A would hold the radius of that transition.
A A After making the attached sketch, I had a better thought to
make the
A A washer thicker with a stepped bore and use a recessed allen
head Joe
A A -----Original Message-----
A A From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@
server.detomasolist.com] On
A A Behalf Of B Hower via DeTomaso
A A Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:47 AM
A A To: Mike Drew
A A Cc: Detomaso Email List
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
A A Thanks for the input Mike,
A A I will have to do an upgrade I guess. But for now I happen to
have an
A A extra that came along with the one I broke. Some nice guy sent
me
A A several if you remember. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no
tomorrow
A A -- for there may not be ! )
A A From: Mike Drew <[2][5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
A A To: B Hower <[3][6]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
A A Cc: Detomaso Email List <[4][7]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
A A Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:29 AM
A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
A A Bud,
A A This is a common occurrence. The inner front sway bar brackets
are
A A loaded more heavily than the others, and eventually one side
breaks.
A A This then negates the function of the swaybar.
A A The stock clamp is simply underdesigned for its role. All the
vendors
A A sell high bling machined billet aluminum sway bar brackets;
although
A A their intent is primarily cosmetic function, they are actually
rather
A A necessary precisely where you can't see them.....
A A Mike
A A Sent from my iPad
A A > On Aug 18, 2017, at 07:01, B Hower via DeTomaso
A A <[5][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A >
A A > Lolita, Lolita, how you keep me busy ! !
A A > Anyone have information on why this might occur? She broke a
(
A A >driver's
A A > side ) chrome plated one, which I replaced with a painted
version.
A A >That
A A > one is now broken.
A A > Lolita broke another item 30:
A A > [1][6][9]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
A A > Thanks for help in advance,
A A > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there
may not
A A >be
A A > ! )
A A >
A A > References
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webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
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   Dunno.  I know that all the vendors now make their own shiny aluminum
   version of Hall's plastic ones like I have.
   Cheers- J Deryke
   -----Original Message-----
   From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com>
   Cc: detomaso <detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   Sent: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 7:39 am
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
   Thanks, Jack, for bring up the sphereballs. I'm surprised it didn't
   come up earlier.A
   Have they gone out of style or something?
   Jeff
   On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
   <[1][1]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   A A I've seen a couple of rear bar straps broken. This is the small
   strap
   A A thats welded to the lower rear a-arm. It cracks at one bolthole
   or
   A A weld, possibly due to running poly on the ends- even with only
   stock
   A A bars. If done, poly ends bind up as some compliance is needed
   on the
   A A bar ends. Either use rubber on the ends or best is a
   Sphere-ball on the
   A A end and poly in the middle for the pivot points. My 2 cents- J
   Deryke
   A A -----Original Message-----
   A A From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[2][2]byrdjf at embarqmail.com>
   A A To: detomaso <[3][3]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com>
   A A Sent: Sat, Aug 19, 2017 10:23 am
   A A Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
   A A Oops...
   A A You didn't mention where the failure occurred. Just looking, I
   would
   A A say the weak spot is the transition from the bushing wrap and
   the flats
   A A for bolting to frame.
   A A I would think this could be improved just using a custom washer
   that
   A A would hold the radius of that transition.
   A A After making the attached sketch, I had a better thought to
   make the
   A A washer thicker with a stepped bore and use a recessed allen
   head Joe
   A A -----Original Message-----
   A A From: DeTomaso [[1][4]mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@
   server.detomasolist.com] On
   A A Behalf Of B Hower via DeTomaso
   A A Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:47 AM
   A A To: Mike Drew
   A A Cc: Detomaso Email List
   A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
   A A Thanks for the input Mike,
   A A I will have to do an upgrade I guess. But for now I happen to
   have an
   A A extra that came along with the one I broke. Some nice guy sent
   me
   A A several if you remember. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no
   tomorrow
   A A -- for there may not be ! )
   A A From: Mike Drew <[2][5][5]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
   A A To: B Hower <[3][6][6]b.hower3400 at yahoo.com>
   A A Cc: Detomaso Email List <[4][7][7]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
   A A Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:29 AM
   A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Front Sway Bar Bracket broken
   A A Bud,
   A A This is a common occurrence. The inner front sway bar brackets
   are
   A A loaded more heavily than the others, and eventually one side
   breaks.
   A A This then negates the function of the swaybar.
   A A The stock clamp is simply underdesigned for its role. All the
   vendors
   A A sell high bling machined billet aluminum sway bar brackets;
   although
   A A their intent is primarily cosmetic function, they are actually
   rather
   A A necessary precisely where you can't see them.....
   A A Mike
   A A Sent from my iPad
   A A > On Aug 18, 2017, at 07:01, B Hower via DeTomaso
   A A <[5][8][8]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
   A A >
   A A > Lolita, Lolita, how you keep me busy ! !
   A A > Anyone have information on why this might occur? She broke a
   (
   A A >driver's
   A A > side ) chrome plated one, which I replaced with a painted
   version.
   A A >That
   A A > one is now broken.
   A A > Lolita broke another item 30:
   A A > [1][6][9][9]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
   webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
   A A > Thanks for help in advance,
   A A > Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there
   may not
   A A >be
   A A > ! )
   A A >
   A A > References
   A A >
   A A > 1. [7][10][10]http://www.panterasbywilkinson.com/
   webpages/catalog/ill5c.html
   A A > _______________________________________________
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