[DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973

Steve Lisa stevelisa at patentit.com
Mon Apr 17 18:20:30 EDT 2017 

I am working on getting some photo's - believe it or not we were busy
enough that we didn't take any of our own!!! But, among the constant parade
of people gawking, there were a few photographers that stopped by and said
they snapped photo's during practice and qualifying.  I am waiting on
getting some emails.

Again, I am new to this process, but I have a dropbox folder that I am
keeping of the build, beginning after Asa Jay dropped 5533 off in Portland
last year.  I am not anxious to make it uber-public, but I would happily
share it with the forum.  Is that allowed?

Regards,

Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
Direct: 312-320-5888

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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Larry - Ohio Time <Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
wrote:

> Steve the only things you did wrong was not to post sooner and not to post
> photos of your race. :-)
>
> Welcome
>
>
> Larry - Cleveland
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve Lisa
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:59 PM
> To: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
>
> This is my first post, so I hope I get it right.  Let me know if I broke
> etiquette.
>
> So, we confirmed this weekend running in the Oregon SCCA Vintage group at
> PIR, that the original Pantera brakes are indeed lacking.  Aside from brake
> issues, Asa Jay's old car ran well.
>
> The issue is that I am required to run the stock front and rear calipers if
> I want the car to be "dated" under the FIA Group 3 rules as of "1973."  As
> best I can tell (and maybe I am wrong), the "big" calipers were not
> approved in Group 3 until 1974.  However, it also appears, as best I can
> tell, that the 1973 FIA Group 3 rules allowed vented front and rear rotors
> in place of the original non-vented rotors.  Unfortunately, slotted rotors
> are not allowed.
>
> I happily just bought two sets of Mike Drew's recently sourced
> vented/slotted rotors, which I will run on the front for now.  Except for
> snooty events, there will be no issues doing so.  But, I have a few
> questions for the experts here about some longer term concerns:
>
>    1. I eventually need to find vented but non-slotted front and rear
>    rotors for the Pantera, as close as possible to what was run in the FIA
>    Group 3 in 1973.  Any ideas on where to find vented front and rear
> rotors
>    that are equivalent to the 1973 FIA Group s rotors?
>    2. I would like something improved in place of the stock rear rotors
>    while I am sourcing the proper vented rotors circa 1973.  Any ideas?
>    3. What are the best race front and rear pads to run in the original
>    calipers, and where do we get them?  I am guessing Porterfield?
>
> Also, I want to again thank all those that tried to help us out last
> weekend when the Booster failed.
>
> Regards,
>
> S
> ​teve Lisa​
>
> SN 5533
>
> Steve Lisa
> SN 5533
>
>
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   I am working on getting some photo's - believe it or not we were busy
   enough that we didn't take any of our own!!! But, among the constant
   parade of people gawking, there were a few photographers that stopped
   by and said they snapped photo's during practice and qualifying.A  I am
   waiting on getting some emails. A A
   Again, I am new to this process, but I have a dropbox folder that I am
   keeping of the build, beginning after Asa Jay dropped 5533 off in
   Portland last year.A  I am not anxious to make it uber-public, but I
   would happily share it with the forum.A  Is that allowed?

   Regards,A
   Steven G. Lisa, Esq.
   Email: SteveLisa at PatentIt.com
   Direct: 312-320-5888
   [1][SGL-Email-Logo.jpg]

   Please note our new Scottsdale address.A  Our phone and fax numbers
   remain the same.

   Scottsdale OfficeA |A P:A 480.535.6656A  |A A F:A 480.535.6628A
   |A A A:A 7689 East Paradise Lane, Suite 2, Scottsdale, AZ 85260

   Chicago OfficeA |A P: 312.752.4357A  |A  F: 312.896.5633A  |A  A: 55 E.
   Monroe Street, Suite 3800, Chicago, IL 60603
   [2]www.PatentIt.com
   This email is confidential and privileged, and intended only for the
   recipient above. If you received this email in error, please destroy
   all copies of it and indicate such by return email to me. Thank you.
   On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Larry - Ohio Time
   <[3]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> wrote:

     Steve the only things you did wrong was not to post sooner and not
     to post photos of your race. :-)
     Welcome
     Larry - Cleveland
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf Of Steve Lisa
     Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:59 PM
     To: [5]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     Subject: [DeTomaso] Some FIA Group 3 brake questions - circa 1973
     This is my first post, so I hope I get it right.A  Let me know if I
     broke
     etiquette.
     So, we confirmed this weekend running in the Oregon SCCA Vintage
     group at
     PIR, that the original Pantera brakes are indeed lacking.A  Aside
     from brake
     issues, Asa Jay's old car ran well.
     The issue is that I am required to run the stock front and rear
     calipers if
     I want the car to be "dated" under the FIA Group 3 rules as of
     "1973."A  As
     best I can tell (and maybe I am wrong), the "big" calipers were not
     approved in Group 3 until 1974.A  However, it also appears, as best
     I can
     tell, that the 1973 FIA Group 3 rules allowed vented front and rear
     rotors
     in place of the original non-vented rotors.A  Unfortunately, slotted
     rotors
     are not allowed.
     I happily just bought two sets of Mike Drew's recently sourced
     vented/slotted rotors, which I will run on the front for now.A
     Except for
     snooty events, there will be no issues doing so.A  But, I have a few
     questions for the experts here about some longer term concerns:
     A  A 1. I eventually need to find vented but non-slotted front and
     rear
     A  A rotors for the Pantera, as close as possible to what was run in
     the FIA
     A  A Group 3 in 1973.A  Any ideas on where to find vented front and
     rear rotors
     A  A that are equivalent to the 1973 FIA Group s rotors?
     A  A 2. I would like something improved in place of the stock rear
     rotors
     A  A while I am sourcing the proper vented rotors circa 1973.A  Any
     ideas?
     A  A 3. What are the best race front and rear pads to run in the
     original

   A  A calipers, and where do we get them?A  I am guessing Porterfield?
   Also, I want to again thank all those that tried to help us out last
   weekend when the Booster failed.
   Regards,
   S
   ateve Lisaa
   SN 5533
   Steve Lisa
   SN 5533

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