[DeTomaso] No racing again at the 2017 POCA Fun Rally?
Rich Hoppe
richbhoppe at gmail.com
Sun Nov 20 11:27:49 EST 2016
I would also be interested in a track event.
I realize it will not happen in 2017.
I am not complaining but I want to respond to the statement that track
events should not be paid by POCA.
I disagree with that.
It is clearly a Pantera car function for people that want to drive with
other pantera cars at speed on the track.
I realize not everyone is interested in driving or watching the track
events.
But for argument sake we could also use anything to separate the
differences of owners.
I like drinking beer but a person could say why do we spend money on open
bars when not everyone uses the free stuff.
We could go on and on about how this function is only for a few or that is
only for a few etc.
I get annoyed that the club had over $100k in the acct but did not have
money for a $5k co sponsor track function.
It is small thinking.
Rich Hoppe
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> The racing event was also important for a number of members who went
> and watched the racing and enjoyed walking the pit area. The Lone Star
> FunA
> Rally was a good example of coordinating the fun rally dates with a
> track event run by a third party with less onerous requirements than
> getting an SCCA license.
> Jeff
> 6559
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Ed Mendez <[1]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>
> You can race, but you'll have to get with the SCCA in order to join
> their event that same weekend. SCCA race licensing and compliance.
> Its financially infeasible and not prudent for the majority of
> membership to subsidize a track event benefiting a very small
> portion of the membership. Track costs and insurance makes it cost
> prohibitive. Individual racers can get with the SCCA and race that
> weekend.
> This will be a great event not to be missed.
> Ed
> Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>
> > On Nov 19, 2016, at 14:49, Dan Courtney <[2]dan at excaliburre.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >A A Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but thatas
> primarily
> >A A because of the ability to race on a world class track.
> >A A Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once again ignoring
> and
> >A A alienating the racers in the Club.
> >A A Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas the point in
> having a
> >A A Pantera track car if you canat compete against other Panteras?
> >A A Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not worth trailering a
> race
> >A A car for a 1,000 mile trip.
> >A A I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but now itas looking
> like
> >A A the Club doesnat care about itas racing contingency, or about the
> >A A Pantera racing tradition.
> >A A As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and The Winged
> Warrior,
> >A A out.
> >A A Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone cares, but I
> strongly
> >A A feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day should be a top
> >A A priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
> >
> >A A Dan Courtney
>
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I would also be interested in a track event.
I realize it will not happen in 2017.
I am not complaining but I want to respond to the statement that track
events should not be paid by POCA.
I disagree with that.
It is clearly a Pantera car function for people that want to drive with
other pantera cars at speed on the track.
I realize not everyone is interested in driving or watching the track
events.
But for argument sake we could also use anything to separate the
differences of owners.
I like drinking beer but a person could say why do we spend money on
open bars when not everyone uses the free stuff.
We could go on and on about how this function is only for a few or that
is only for a few etc.
I get annoyed that the club had over $100k in the acct but did not have
money for a $5k co sponsor track function.
It is small thinking.
Rich Hoppe
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Jeff Detrich <[1]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
wrote:
A A The racing event was also important for a number of members who
went
A A and watched the racing and enjoyed walking the pit area. The
Lone Star
A A FunA
A A Rally was a good example of coordinating the fun rally dates
with a
A A track event run by a third party with less onerous requirements
than
A A getting an SCCA license.
A A Jeff
A A 6559
A A On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Ed Mendez
<[1][2]edducati at mac.com> wrote:
A A A You can race, but you'll have to get with the SCCA in order
to join
A A A their event that same weekend. SCCA race licensing and
compliance.
A A A Its financially infeasible and not prudent for the majority
of
A A A membership to subsidize a track event benefiting a very
small
A A A portion of the membership. Track costs and insurance makes
it cost
A A A prohibitive. Individual racers can get with the SCCA and
race that
A A A weekend.
A A A This will be a great event not to be missed.
A A A Ed
A A A Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
A A > On Nov 19, 2016, at 14:49, Dan Courtney
<[2][3]dan at excaliburre.com>
A A wrote:
A A >
A A >AA A Ed, Monterey is a great place for a car event, but
thatas
A A primarily
A A >AA A because of the ability to race on a world class track.
A A >AA A Iam really, really disappointed that POCA is once again
ignoring
A A and
A A >AA A alienating the racers in the Club.
A A >AA A Two years in a row without a track event? Whatas the
point in
A A having a
A A >AA A Pantera track car if you canat compete against other
Panteras?
A A >AA A Parade laps are nice for daily drivers but not worth
trailering a
A A race
A A >AA A car for a 1,000 mile trip.
A A >AA A I thought last year was a one time foul-up, but now itas
looking
A A like
A A >AA A the Club doesnat care about itas racing contingency, or
about the
A A >AA A Pantera racing tradition.
A A >AA A As of this moment Iad say count me, The Beast and The
Winged
A A Warrior,
A A >AA A out.
A A >AA A Maybe Iall get over this by Spring, if anyone cares, but
I
A A strongly
A A >AA A feel that the ability to host a Pantera track day should
be a top
A A >AA A priority in selecting a venue for any Fun Rally.
A A >
A A >AA A Dan Courtney
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