[DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC

Ed Mendez edducati at mac.com
Tue May 24 11:27:35 EDT 2016


What does this have to do with Panteras or DeTomaso? 

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> On 24/05/2016, at 04:35, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well put.
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> Will
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> On 5/24/16 12:14 AM, "Scott Mead Photography"
> <scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
> 
>> I shudder to think of the number of people who have been scarred, or left
>> the club over the years from slung arrows or miss-information, ether over
>> forums or from the rumor mill. When I read/hear of such things, it
>> strikes a familial chord: My father, Don, joined POCA back in ¹75, and
>> was shortly thereafter ³drafted² (as a lot of us were for Board positions
>> back in the day) to be the club¹s Membership Chairman. As a software
>> designer, he wrote and administered POCA¹s first membership software, as
>> well as provided all the mailing labels, reports and printouts to the
>> Board (keep in mind, this was in the days of mainframes, punch cards and
>> massive line printers). After several years, he stepped aside as
>> Membership Chairman, but continued to provide POCA with a free
>> terminal/modem, data processing, reports, labels etc. Even as he migrated
>> from mainframes to minis and micro-computers, he shouldered the cost of
>> converting and housing POCA¹s data.
>> 
>> He would probably still be donating his time and supplies to the Club,
>> had it not been for a group of people, and one particular board member,
>> referencing my father, who wrote ³Never again shall POCA be held to
>> ransom by a third-party vendor² among other unfortunate writings. What
>> was said cut my father to the core. After years of dedication,
>> volunteering his time and supplies ­ again at absolutely no charge -- to
>> an organization he adored, he quietly turned all the data over to club
>> (even converting the data to their then-new system), let his POCA
>> membership expire and sold his car for far below market value.
>> 
>> I only recount this event, as it serves as a good reminder that before we
>> click on the ³send² key, it would behoove us to read what we wrote, and
>> ask ourselves ³would I like to be on the receiving end of this message?²
>> If not, then think twice before clicking the mouse button.
>> 
>> Mahalo,
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf Of scott black via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM
>> To: Asa Jay Laughton; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
>> 
>> Yes, it was disappointing email response. I appreciated the kind words
>> from those who know me. And no, we have yet to represent (or even pitch)
>> any oil change business. Though, we would happily accept the work, LOL. I
>> hope that cooler heads prevail in the POCA leadership than occurred in
>> this unfortunate attack. Scott Black Former POCA Board Member TimePiece
>> Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration www.tprm-usa.com
>> 
>>    On Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:37 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
>> <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> As I recall, Scott was the PR chair for POCA for many years and did a
>> wonderful job.  I think it was (like many of us) more work and less play
>> in his own life that caused him to step back.  But I'm sure he can defend
>> himself on this one too. ;)
>> 
>> Asa  Jay
>> 
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired &  Shelley Marie Spokane,
>> WA
>> ******************************
>> http://w7tsc.org
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/21/2016 5:40 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
>>> "PS: I know Scott Black and he is a prince."
>>> 
>>> A good guitarist or dead? ;-)
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr.
>>> Short's temperament.  A few folks on the forum did not take kindly to
>>> the negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to line his
>>> own packets.
>>> Ken
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> From: Michael Shortt<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>> To: Art Stephens<artstephens at charter.net>
>>> Cc: DeTomaso A<detomaso at realbig.com>; scott
>>> black<timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>> 
>>> I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of
>>> Detomaso List postings I can't find another post by you. You may very
>>> well have the best of intentions.
>>> 
>>> However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news ( that
>>> was on Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading me to
>>> question your motives, seeing that your business targets the automotive
>>> marketplace does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like creating a
>>> problem that you can offer to help fix for a fee.
>>> 
>>> There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy Lube
>>> franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as being such
>>> is nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You above
>>> all others should know that to be true.
>>> 
>>> Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind, esp.
>>> one that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass and
>>> watches TV instead of watching their car probably deserves whatever they
>>> get. There is no excuse for the crooks, they should have been arrested,
>>> that is nothing more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be
>>> watching and would ALWAYS request your parts. I personally ask for the
>>> new oil filter and date it myself with a sharpie "for my own records".
>>> Fluids changes can be checks by examining the dipstick for the color of
>>> the replacement fluids and lastly if they don't meet your expectations,
>>> refuse to pay until proof has been furnished, the last thing they want
>>> is a car blocking the bay or the police to show up if they are indeed
>>> crooks, too much attention and the last thing a crook wants is attention.
>>> 
>>> Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to take
>>> and if you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space for a
>>> backyard buddy so that I could easily do those routine things myself,
>>> then it is your responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody else
>>> ever will.
>>> 
>>> Michael in Savannah
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/24/07, Art Stephens<artstephens at charter.net>  wrote:
>>>>   Thank you Scott.  I don't do business with them and it looks like
>>>> I  never will!
>>>> 
>>>> Art
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "scott black"<timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "DeTomaso A"<detomaso at realbig.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business
>>>>> with
>>>> any
>>>>> Jiffy's in your town?
>>>> http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200
>>>> k
>>>> .asx
>>>>> Scott Black
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> TimePiece Public Relations
>>>>> Dallas - Houston - New York
>>>>> www.timepiecepr.com
>>>>> 
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