[DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC

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Tue May 24 15:30:34 EDT 2016


_What does this have to do with Panteras or DeTomaso? _
Not much.  That's what "NPC" is for.  "Non-Pantera Cheese".  (Surely
you know this, Ed!) But I found all that kinda interesting.   Which is
another thing I like about our little email forum--  people like and
respect each others' thoughts enough to engage in off-topic stuff. It
shows we are more than just a car club comprised of a bunch of
one-dimensional lug nuts.   Thank God.  I would be outta here by now
from the boredom.
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On May 24, 2016 at 8:27 AM, "Ed Mendez"  wrote:What does this have to
do with Panteras or DeTomaso? 

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus

> On 24/05/2016, at 04:35, Will Kooiman  wrote:
> 
> Well put.
> 
> --
> Will
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/24/16 12:14 AM, "Scott Mead Photography"
>  wrote:
> 
>> I shudder to think of the number of people who have been scarred,
or left
>> the club over the years from slung arrows or miss-information,
ether over
>> forums or from the rumor mill. When I read/hear of such things, it
>> strikes a familial chord: My father, Don, joined POCA back in ¹75,
and
>> was shortly thereafter ³drafted² (as a lot of us were for Board
positions
>> back in the day) to be the club¹s Membership Chairman. As a
software
>> designer, he wrote and administered POCA¹s first membership
software, as
>> well as provided all the mailing labels, reports and printouts to
the
>> Board (keep in mind, this was in the days of mainframes, punch
cards and
>> massive line printers). After several years, he stepped aside as
>> Membership Chairman, but continued to provide POCA with a free
>> terminal/modem, data processing, reports, labels etc. Even as he
migrated
>> from mainframes to minis and micro-computers, he shouldered the
cost of
>> converting and housing POCA¹s data.
>> 
>> He would probably still be donating his time and supplies to the
Club,
>> had it not been for a group of people, and one particular board
member,
>> referencing my father, who wrote ³Never again shall POCA be held
to
>> ransom by a third-party vendor² among other unfortunate writings.
What
>> was said cut my father to the core. After years of dedication,
>> volunteering his time and supplies ­ again at absolutely no charge
-- to
>> an organization he adored, he quietly turned all the data over to
club
>> (even converting the data to their then-new system), let his POCA
>> membership expire and sold his car for far below market value.
>> 
>> I only recount this event, as it serves as a good reminder that
before we
>> click on the ³send² key, it would behoove us to read what we
wrote, and
>> ask ourselves ³would I like to be on the receiving end of this
message?²
>> If not, then think twice before clicking the mouse button.
>> 
>> Mahalo,
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf Of scott black via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM
>> To: Asa Jay Laughton; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
>> 
>> Yes, it was disappointing email response. I appreciated the kind
words
>> from those who know me. And no, we have yet to represent (or even
pitch)
>> any oil change business. Though, we would happily accept the work,
LOL. I
>> hope that cooler heads prevail in the POCA leadership than occurred
in
>> this unfortunate attack. Scott Black Former POCA Board Member
TimePiece
>> Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
www.tprm-usa.com
>> 
>>    On Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:37 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> As I recall, Scott was the PR chair for POCA for many years and did
a
>> wonderful job.  I think it was (like many of us) more work and less
play
>> in his own life that caused him to step back.  But I'm sure he can
defend
>> himself on this one too. ;)
>> 
>> Asa  Jay
>> 
>> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired &  Shelley Marie
Spokane,
>> WA
>> ******************************
>> http://w7tsc.org
>> http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/21/2016 5:40 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
>>> "PS: I know Scott Black and he is a prince."
>>> 
>>> A good guitarist or dead? ;-)
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
On
>>> Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:56 PM
>>> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr.
>>> Short's temperament.  A few folks on the forum did not take kindly
to
>>> the negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to
line his
>>> own packets.
>>> Ken
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> From: Michael Shortt
>>> To: Art Stephens
>>> Cc: DeTomaso A; scott
>>> black
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>> 
>>> I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of
>>> Detomaso List postings I can't find another post by you. You may
very
>>> well have the best of intentions.
>>> 
>>> However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news (
that
>>> was on Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading
me to
>>> question your motives, seeing that your business targets the
automotive
>>> marketplace does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like
creating a
>>> problem that you can offer to help fix for a fee.
>>> 
>>> There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy
Lube
>>> franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as
being such
>>> is nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You
above
>>> all others should know that to be true.
>>> 
>>> Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind,
esp.
>>> one that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass
and
>>> watches TV instead of watching their car probably deserves
whatever they
>>> get. There is no excuse for the crooks, they should have been
arrested,
>>> that is nothing more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be
>>> watching and would ALWAYS request your parts. I personally ask for
the
>>> new oil filter and date it myself with a sharpie "for my own
records".
>>> Fluids changes can be checks by examining the dipstick for the
color of
>>> the replacement fluids and lastly if they don't meet your
expectations,
>>> refuse to pay until proof has been furnished, the last thing they
want
>>> is a car blocking the bay or the police to show up if they are
indeed
>>> crooks, too much attention and the last thing a crook wants is
attention.
>>> 
>>> Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to
take
>>> and if you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space
for a
>>> backyard buddy so that I could easily do those routine things
myself,
>>> then it is your responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody
else
>>> ever will.
>>> 
>>> Michael in Savannah
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/24/07, Art Stephens  wrote:
>>>>   Thank you Scott.  I don't do business with them and it looks
like
>>>> I  never will!
>>>> 
>>>> Art
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "scott black"
>>>> To: "DeTomaso A"
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business
>>>>> with
>>>> any
>>>>> Jiffy's in your town?
>>>>
http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200
>>>> k
>>>> .asx
>>>>> Scott Black
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> TimePiece Public Relations
>>>>> Dallas - Houston - New York
>>>>> www.timepiecepr.com
>>>>> 
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   What does this have to do with Panteras or DeTomaso?

   Not much.  That's what "NPC" is for.  "Non-Pantera Cheese".  (Surely
   you know this, Ed!)



   But I found all that kinda interesting.

   Which is another thing I like about our little email forum--  people
   like and respect each others' thoughts enough to engage in off-topic
   stuff.

   It shows we are more than just a car club comprised of a bunch of
   one-dimensional lug nuts.

   Thank God.  I would be outta here by now from the boredom.
   Sent using Hushmail
   On May 24, 2016 at 8:27 AM, "Ed Mendez" <edducati at mac.com> wrote:

     What does this have to do with Panteras or DeTomaso?
     Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
     > On 24/05/2016, at 04:35, Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     wrote:
     >
     > Well put.
     >
     > --
     > Will
     >
     >
     >
     >
     >
     > On 5/24/16 12:14 AM, "Scott Mead Photography"
     > <scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:
     >
     >> I shudder to think of the number of people who have been scarred,
     or left
     >> the club over the years from slung arrows or miss-information,
     ether over
     >> forums or from the rumor mill. When I read/hear of such things,
     it
     >> strikes a familial chord: My father, Don, joined POCA back in
     A^175, and
     >> was shortly thereafter A^3draftedA^2 (as a lot of us were for
     Board positions
     >> back in the day) to be the clubA^1s Membership Chairman. As a
     software
     >> designer, he wrote and administered POCAA^1s first membership
     software, as
     >> well as provided all the mailing labels, reports and printouts to
     the
     >> Board (keep in mind, this was in the days of mainframes, punch
     cards and
     >> massive line printers). After several years, he stepped aside as
     >> Membership Chairman, but continued to provide POCA with a free
     >> terminal/modem, data processing, reports, labels etc. Even as he
     migrated
     >> from mainframes to minis and micro-computers, he shouldered the
     cost of
     >> converting and housing POCAA^1s data.
     >>
     >> He would probably still be donating his time and supplies to the
     Club,
     >> had it not been for a group of people, and one particular board
     member,
     >> referencing my father, who wrote A^3Never again shall POCA be
     held to
     >> ransom by a third-party vendorA^2 among other unfortunate
     writings. What
     >> was said cut my father to the core. After years of dedication,
     >> volunteering his time and supplies A again at absolutely no
     charge -- to
     >> an organization he adored, he quietly turned all the data over to
     club
     >> (even converting the data to their then-new system), let his POCA
     >> membership expire and sold his car for far below market value.
     >>
     >> I only recount this event, as it serves as a good reminder that
     before we
     >> click on the A^3sendA^2 key, it would behoove us to read what we
     wrote, and
     >> ask ourselves A^3would I like to be on the receiving end of this
     message?A^2
     >> If not, then think twice before clicking the mouse button.
     >>
     >> Mahalo,
     >>
     >> Scott
     >>
     >> -----Original Message-----
     >> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On
     >> Behalf Of scott black via DeTomaso
     >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM
     >> To: Asa Jay Laughton; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
     >> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
     >>
     >> Yes, it was disappointing email response. I appreciated the kind
     words
     >> from those who know me. And no, we have yet to represent (or even
     pitch)
     >> any oil change business. Though, we would happily accept the
     work, LOL. I
     >> hope that cooler heads prevail in the POCA leadership than
     occurred in
     >> this unfortunate attack. Scott Black Former POCA Board Member
     TimePiece
     >> Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration
     [1]www.tprm-usa.com
     >>
     >> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:37 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
     >> <asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
     >>
     >>
     >> As I recall, Scott was the PR chair for POCA for many years and
     did a
     >> wonderful job. I think it was (like many of us) more work and
     less play
     >> in his own life that caused him to step back. But I'm sure he can
     defend
     >> himself on this one too. ;)
     >>
     >> Asa Jay
     >>
     >> Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie
     Spokane,
     >> WA
     >> ******************************
     >> [2]http://w7tsc.org
     >> [3]http://www.teampanteraracing.com
     >>
     >>
     >>> On 5/21/2016 5:40 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
     >>> "PS: I know Scott Black and he is a prince."
     >>>
     >>> A good guitarist or dead? ;-)
     >>>
     >>> -----Original Message-----
     >>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
     On
     >>> Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     >>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:56 PM
     >>> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
     >>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr.
     >>> Short's temperament. A few folks on the forum did not take
     kindly to
     >>> the negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to
     line his
     >>> own packets.
     >>> Ken
     >>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
     >>> From: Michael Shortt<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     >>> To: Art Stephens<artstephens at charter.net>
     >>> Cc: DeTomaso A<detomaso at realbig.com>; scott
     >>> black<timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
     >>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM
     >>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
     >>>
     >>> I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months
     of
     >>> Detomaso List postings I can't find another post by you. You may
     very
     >>> well have the best of intentions.
     >>>
     >>> However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news (
     that
     >>> was on Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible,
     leading me to
     >>> question your motives, seeing that your business targets the
     automotive
     >>> marketplace does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like
     creating a
     >>> problem that you can offer to help fix for a fee.
     >>>
     >>> There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy
     Lube
     >>> franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as
     being such
     >>> is nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You
     above
     >>> all others should know that to be true.
     >>>
     >>> Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any
     kind, esp.
     >>> one that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass
     and
     >>> watches TV instead of watching their car probably deserves
     whatever they
     >>> get. There is no excuse for the crooks, they should have been
     arrested,
     >>> that is nothing more than stealing, but a smart consumer would
     be
     >>> watching and would ALWAYS request your parts. I personally ask
     for the
     >>> new oil filter and date it myself with a sharpie "for my own
     records".
     >>> Fluids changes can be checks by examining the dipstick for the
     color of
     >>> the replacement fluids and lastly if they don't meet your
     expectations,
     >>> refuse to pay until proof has been furnished, the last thing
     they want
     >>> is a car blocking the bay or the police to show up if they are
     indeed
     >>> crooks, too much attention and the last thing a crook wants is
     attention.
     >>>
     >>> Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to
     take
     >>> and if you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the
     space for a
     >>> backyard buddy so that I could easily do those routine things
     myself,
     >>> then it is your responsibility to look out for number one.
     Nobody else
     >>> ever will.
     >>>
     >>> Michael in Savannah
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>> On 8/24/07, Art Stephens<artstephens at charter.net> wrote:
     >>>> Thank you Scott. I don't do business with them and it looks
     like
     >>>> I never will!
     >>>>
     >>>> Art
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>> ----- Original Message -----
     >>>> From: "scott black"<timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
     >>>> To: "DeTomaso A"<detomaso at realbig.com>
     >>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
     >>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> 4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do
     business
     >>>>> with
     >>>> any
     >>>>> Jiffy's in your town?
     >>>>
     [4]http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183
     .200
     >>>> k
     >>>> .asx
     >>>>> Scott Black
     >>>>>
     >>>>>
     >>>>> TimePiece Public Relations
     >>>>> Dallas - Houston - New York
     >>>>> [5]www.timepiecepr.com
     >>>>>
     >>>>> ---------------------------------
     >>>>> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks
     on
     >>>>> Yahoo!
     >>>>> TV.
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   2. http://w7tsc.org/
   3. http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
   4. http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200
   5. http://www.timepiecepr.com/
   6. http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/
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  13. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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