[DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC

Tue May 24 07:35:59 EDT 2016

Well put.

--
Will

On 5/24/16 12:14 AM, "Scott Mead Photography"
<scott at scottmeadphotography.com> wrote:

>I shudder to think of the number of people who have been scarred, or left
>the club over the years from slung arrows or miss-information, ether over
>forums or from the rumor mill. When I read/hear of such things, it
>strikes a familial chord: My father, Don, joined POCA back in ¹75, and
>was shortly thereafter ³drafted² (as a lot of us were for Board positions
>back in the day) to be the club¹s Membership Chairman. As a software
>designer, he wrote and administered POCA¹s first membership software, as
>well as provided all the mailing labels, reports and printouts to the
>Board (keep in mind, this was in the days of mainframes, punch cards and
>massive line printers). After several years, he stepped aside as
>Membership Chairman, but continued to provide POCA with a free
>terminal/modem, data processing, reports, labels etc. Even as he migrated
>from mainframes to minis and micro-computers, he shouldered the cost of
>converting and housing POCA¹s data.
>
>He would probably still be donating his time and supplies to the Club,
>had it not been for a group of people, and one particular board member,
>referencing my father, who wrote ³Never again shall POCA be held to
>ransom by a third-party vendor² among other unfortunate writings. What
>was said cut my father to the core. After years of dedication,
>volunteering his time and supplies  again at absolutely no charge -- to
>an organization he adored, he quietly turned all the data over to club
>(even converting the data to their then-new system), let his POCA
>membership expire and sold his car for far below market value.
>
>I only recount this event, as it serves as a good reminder that before we
>click on the ³send² key, it would behoove us to read what we wrote, and
>ask ourselves ³would I like to be on the receiving end of this message?²
>If not, then think twice before clicking the mouse button.
>
>Mahalo,
>
>Scott
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>Behalf Of scott black via DeTomaso
>Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:52 PM
>To: Asa Jay Laughton; detomaso at server.detomasolist.com
>Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
>
>Yes, it was disappointing email response. I appreciated the kind words
>from those who know me. And no, we have yet to represent (or even pitch)
>any oil change business. Though, we would happily accept the work, LOL. I
>hope that cooler heads prevail in the POCA leadership than occurred in
>this unfortunate attack. Scott Black Former POCA Board Member TimePiece
>Public Relations & Marketing Marketing Acceleration www.tprm-usa.com
>
>     On Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:37 PM, Asa Jay Laughton
><asajay at asajay.com> wrote:
> 
>
> As I recall, Scott was the PR chair for POCA for many years and did a
>wonderful job.  I think it was (like many of us) more work and less play
>in his own life that caused him to step back.  But I'm sure he can defend
>himself on this one too. ;)
>
>Asa  Jay
>
>Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired &  Shelley Marie Spokane,
>WA
>******************************
>http://w7tsc.org
>http://www.teampanteraracing.com
>
>
>On 5/21/2016 5:40 PM, Julian Kift wrote:
>> "PS: I know Scott Black and he is a prince."
>>
>> A good guitarist or dead? ;-)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
>> Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:56 PM
>> To: detomaso at detomasolist.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fw: Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>
>>
>>
>>      I suppose this post from 2007 might give you an idea of Mr.
>>Short's temperament.  A few folks on the forum did not take kindly to
>>the negative comments suggesting that Scott Black was trying to line his
>>own packets.
>> Ken
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>  From: Michael Shortt<michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>>  To: Art Stephens<artstephens at charter.net>
>> Cc: DeTomaso A<detomaso at realbig.com>; scott
>>black<timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>  Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:46 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>
>> I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of
>>Detomaso List postings I can't find another post by you. You may very
>>well have the best of intentions.
>>
>> However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news ( that
>>was on Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading me to
>>question your motives, seeing that your business targets the automotive
>>marketplace does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like creating a
>>problem that you can offer to help fix for a fee.
>>
>> There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy Lube
>>franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as being such
>>is nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You above
>>all others should know that to be true.
>>
>> Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind, esp.
>>one that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass and
>>watches TV instead of watching their car probably deserves whatever they
>>get. There is no excuse for the crooks, they should have been arrested,
>>that is nothing more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be
>>watching and would ALWAYS request your parts. I personally ask for the
>>new oil filter and date it myself with a sharpie "for my own records".
>>Fluids changes can be checks by examining the dipstick for the color of
>>the replacement fluids and lastly if they don't meet your expectations,
>>refuse to pay until proof has been furnished, the last thing they want
>>is a car blocking the bay or the police to show up if they are indeed
>>crooks, too much attention and the last thing a crook wants is attention.
>>
>> Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to take
>>and if you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space for a
>>backyard buddy so that I could easily do those routine things myself,
>>then it is your responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody else
>>ever will.
>>
>> Michael in Savannah
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/07, Art Stephens<artstephens at charter.net>  wrote:
>>>    Thank you Scott.  I don't do business with them and it looks like
>>>I  never will!
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "scott black"<timepiecepr2 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "DeTomaso A"<detomaso at realbig.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business
>>>>with
>>> any
>>>> Jiffy's in your town?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200
>>> k
>>> .asx
>>>> Scott Black
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TimePiece Public Relations
>>>> Dallas - Houston - New York
>>>> www.timepiecepr.com
>>>>
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