[DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Will Kooiman
will.kooiman at gmail.com
Sat Jul 23 13:26:38 EDT 2016
It isn¹t about controlling the club.
It takes a lot of guts to step forward to be president (or any board
position). It is often a thankless job, and you take a lot of crap for it
- even when you are right.
MS just wants to improve the club. I¹m impressed with his energy and most
of his ideas. I disagree with some, but that¹s another matter.
The problem is he pissed off a lot of people with his approach, and now
it¹s a back and forth verbal battle until someone has enough and leaves.
Unfortunately, there are <many> against him, and they¹ll never all shut up
and leave. So, the ³fix" has to come from MS - somehow.
On 7/23/16, 9:54 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com on behalf of
detomaso at server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
> You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a
> car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is
> ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap
> like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but
> it makes no sense for a car club.
> Ken
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>;
> 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms at live.com>
> Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> Dear Ken,
> The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus
> operandi.
> Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
> Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
> To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
> Cc: [2]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those
> surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an
> excuse to do things informed members would never approve?
> Ken
> From: Ed Mendez <[3]edducati at mac.com>
> To: Mike Reilly <[4]reillyms at live.com>
> Cc: "[5]detomaso at detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
> You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the
> board.
> Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails
> that he has a list of.
> > On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[7]reillyms at live.com> wrote:
> >
> > Check your junk file. Mine was there.
> >
> >
> > Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> >
> >
> > From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
> > To: [3][8]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> >
> >
> > I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th
> > reply.
> > 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information
> > and
> > postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees
> >and
> > future publication mailings.
> > The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email
> > address
> > to see whom to send above to.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DeTomaso
> [[4]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
> >On
> > Behalf
> > Of Will Kooiman
> > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
> > To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [10]julian_kift at hotmail.com;
> [11]bill at incendium.com
> > Cc: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
> [13]detomaso at detomasolist.com;
> > [14]mbglobalsc at aol.com; [15]gpd4 at juno.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> > Verbatim from the survey:
> > 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
> >want
> > you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR
> > 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight,
> >let
> > the
> > contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
> > This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you
> fully
> > support us, or you suck.
> > How about this?
> > 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
> > unhappy
> > with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the
> >club
> > better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
> >been
> > damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
> treating
> > people
> > with respect, they should leave.
> > --
> > Will
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