[DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Ken Green
kenn_green at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 23 09:54:40 EDT 2016
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club.
Ken
From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms at live.com>
Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken,
The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve?
Ken
From: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
To: Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com>
Cc: "detomaso at detomasolist.com" <detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board.
Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of.
> On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms at live.com> wrote:
>
> Check your junk file. Mine was there.
>
>
> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
> To: [3]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
>
> I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th
> reply.
> 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information
> and
> postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees
>and
> future publication mailings.
> The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email
> address
> to see whom to send above to.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>On
> Behalf
> Of Will Kooiman
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
> To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift at hotmail.com; bill at incendium.com
> Cc: detomaso at server.detomasolist.com; detomaso at detomasolist.com;
> mbglobalsc at aol.com; gpd4 at juno.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> Verbatim from the survey:
> 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
>want
> you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR
> 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight,
>let
> the
> contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
> This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully
> support us, or you suck.
> How about this?
> 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
> unhappy
> with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the
>club
> better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
>been
> damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating
> people
> with respect, they should leave.
> --
> Will
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You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a
car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is
ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap
like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but
it makes no sense for a car club.
Ken
__________________________________________________________________
From: Charles Engles <cengles at cox.net>
To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green at yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati at mac.com>;
'Mike Reilly' <reillyms at live.com>
Cc: detomaso at detomasolist.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken,
The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus
operandi.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
Cc: [2]detomaso at detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those
surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an
excuse to do things informed members would never approve?
Ken
From: Ed Mendez <[3]edducati at mac.com>
To: Mike Reilly <[4]reillyms at live.com>
Cc: "[5]detomaso at detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso at detomasolist.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the
board.
Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails
that he has a list of.
> On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[7]reillyms at live.com> wrote:
>
> Check your junk file. Mine was there.
>
>
> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
> To: [3][8]detomaso at detomasolist.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
>
>
> I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th
> reply.
> 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information
> and
> postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees
>and
> future publication mailings.
> The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email
> address
> to see whom to send above to.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeTomaso
[[4]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces at server.detomasolist.com]
>On
> Behalf
> Of Will Kooiman
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
> To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [10]julian_kift at hotmail.com;
[11]bill at incendium.com
> Cc: [12]detomaso at server.detomasolist.com;
[13]detomaso at detomasolist.com;
> [14]mbglobalsc at aol.com; [15]gpd4 at juno.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
> Verbatim from the survey:
> 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
>want
> you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR
> 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight,
>let
> the
> contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
> This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you
fully
> support us, or you suck.
> How about this?
> 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
> unhappy
> with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the
>club
> better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
>been
> damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
treating
> people
> with respect, they should leave.
> --
> Will
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