[DeTomaso] Campagnolo Wheels

[Larry Stock]

I am taking in a set of 8¹s and 10¹s X15² Campy¹s with new tires next week
on a sale and trade I am doing. Since you guys are talking about these, I
am going to have a set available in the next week or so.
E-mail me for more info and details.
Larrys at PanteraParts.com (1-800-DeTomaso) 800-338-6627


On 1/13/16, 12:19 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso"
<detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

>   In a message dated 1/10/16 21 39 38, davel at emspace.com writes:
>
>     My 17" Hall wheels are a lot heavier than the mags.
>     I think that's fine for street, but aren't you concerned about the
>     unsprung weight for track use?
>     dave
>
>   >>>Interesting.  This was apparently a reply to an original post by
>   Michael Shortt, but that post never came through to me nor did it wind
>   up in my spam folder?
>   I'm noting some irregularities with the forum these days....anyway,
>   thankfully Dave included Michael's original post, so see replies below:
>
>     On 1/08/16 9:17 PM, Michael Shortt wrote:
>     >     Greetings,
>     >
>     >     After gathering all my wheels in one place and a brief
>     inventory today,
>     >     I have 21 Campy wheels,
>
>   >>>Uh...that's a lot. :>)
>
>     >     5 Single Slots and a mixture of the 4 Double Slots and Zero
>     Triple
>     >     Slots ( No 10") Plus 2 sets of 17" Boyd Coddington Wheels made
>     for Hall
>     >     Pantera.
>
>   >>>Uh, I don't think Coddington every made wheels for Hall?  He did
>   make them for several other vendors, in several different styles, some
>   markedly better than others.  Can you share some images perhaps to help
>   in identification?
>   Hall did have somebody cast up ten-spoke Si-looking wheels that were
>   welded together, and perhaps Coddington was the source for those?
>
>     >>     And the 17" 10 spokes on the car now with 335/35 and 245/40.
>
>   >>>What kind of wheels are those?  10 spokes is a pretty vague
>   descriiption--although I admit I'm pretty certain how many spokes they
>   have at least. :>)
>
>     >
>     >     I am keeping the 10 spokes with PZeros for Street use,
>     >     And one set of the 17" Hall Wheels with 315/235 Kumhos for
>     Rally and
>     >     Track use.
>
>   >>>Wait--are you talking about Coddington Campagnolo clones, or Hall
>   wheels which are three-piece, bolt-together affairs, with a fake center
>   spinner?  Those are as different as chalk and cheese (with the latter
>   being the only genuinely suspect/dangerous wheels I've ever
>   encountered).
>
>     >     I will be keeping the Single Slots for Concours with skinny
>     Blackwalls
>     >     and a set of Double Slots with Vintage Arrivas for Photos,
>     With a spare
>     >     Front and a Spare Rear in case of a boo boo.
>
>   >>>Sounds good!
>
>     >
>     >>     That leaves 2 full sets of double slot wheels to dispose of.
>     Sell or
>     >     Trade. Photos Available.
>
>   >>>Somebody just asked for a set--Guy Dellavecchia?  What kind are
>   they?  Guy might want to trade his '71 two-slot wheels for some L-model
>   wheels?
>
>     >     I'd love a Triple Slot set. Anybody have some?
>
>   >>>I have only ever seen two of them (separately) in my life.  These
>   were an experimental wheel used on the first pushmobile prototype.  I
>   have no idea how many were put into production but I've never seen any
>   other car wearing them, so I would have to imagine the number is very
>   small indeed.  Even 1006, the earliest known Pantera extant, had single
>   slot wheels.
>   So don't hold your breath waiting for a full set of three-slot wheels
>   to appear. :>)
>
>     >I will sort them this week by design, Thanks Mike Drew for the
>     Campy
>     >     Wheel education.
>
>   >>>It's my pleasure, but at this point I'm far more concerned about
>   your aftermarket wheels.  Simply put, I would never wish three-piece
>   Hall wheels on my worst enemy, and especially not for track use.  We
>   collectively know about multiple failures, which always led to rapid
>   deflation and a potential accident.  Jack has often told of the car
>   that was zorching down Mt. Charleston in Las Vegas at triple digit
>   speeds one year when his Hall wheel dismantled himself; I believe it
>   thrust the car into the scenery, but can't remember that aspect of the
>   story for sure.  Jack?
>   Larry Stock had a car on the grass at Concorso that he was trying to
>   sell; a rear wheel simply blew apart while the car was parked (!) and
>   he had to tow it back to Nevada as it couldn't be fixed--it had cracked
>   halfway around.  The other three wheels had similar cracks when they
>   were taken apart and inspected.
>   And Mad Dog's fire was indirectly caused by the failure of his Hall
>   wheel; when the left rear wheel failed, the car fell down onto the
>   freeway in Los Angeles.  What wasn't seen was that during the collapse,
>   the brake line was damaged.  MD swapped his stock wheels w/race tires
>   on and ran the Silver State a day or two later, but when he stepped on
>   the brakes at the finish line, the line ruptured, fluid sprayed onto
>   the exhaust and the rest was history.
>   And on and on and on...I'm sure there are many others.
>   Those wheels were a very well-intentioned design but they were woefully
>   under-engineered, and today should be related either to a display case,
>   or a recycling bin IMHO....
>   So tell me exactly what kind of wheels you're talking about here, as
>   the Coddington wheels (which I have aesthetic problems with,
>   admittedly) are nothing like these Hall wheels at all.
>
>     >>     Just let a local guy soda blast two of them down to the green
>     primer,
>     >     I'll probably paint them Argent Silver and Clear them just to
>     see the
>     >     final results.
>     >     Photo attached.
>     >
>
>   >>>Since I didn't get your original e-mail, I didn't get the photo
>   either....
>   Cheers!
>   Mike
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