[DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook

Bill Moore bill at incendium.com
Mon Feb 1 13:08:56 EST 2016


    
Julian,Your dog will never be worth a million, but soon your car will be.



Cheers,
Bill MooreIncendium SupplyCalgary

-------- Original message --------
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com> 
Date: 2016-02-01  9:52 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> 
Cc: detomaso at poca.com, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>, San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook 

There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of Facebook a) be scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?

I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get 3 notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then someone comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's like living inside an Alzheimer's dream!

And there we go with statistics again; that assumption correlation = causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of Panteras on FB doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog would be worth millions if that's the case.

In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through other FB posts and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a caption on a photo and feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it without any due diligence, just because it's on FB it must be true right!

And now there's the targeted advertising, search for something on any site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm already fed up with ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.

Julian
________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
To: Charles McCall
Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook

I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault. :-) I'm the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been told.

Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot of hot rod and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of posts daily but they go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done across several Pantera pages only go on your newsfeed and not on your own page. There are settings in FB to allow or disallow posts. You can limit the number. You can also subscribe or unsubscribe to which ever pages you want to.

I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with Pantera stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and recognition to our cars and has increased value.

It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together. Heck I didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of Junika Okada and the awesome work he does over there.

The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't already and to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB page, this has and will grow membership. That's the bottom line - grow and get people interested. All the pages are there already (for the chapters)

So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups and pages at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll try not to cross post so much. ;-)

Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all that love this car.

We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time... @pocausa

Ed

Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus

> On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ed,
> Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative for communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or coordination on FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that have a fair amount of activity. If you have a message that you want to make sure that everyone gets, then you need to cross-post on a half-dozen pages. People who subscribe to those pages get the same message a half-dozen times, which gets annoying. It happens now, and it will only get worse if people keep generating new FB Pantera pages.
>
> It would be as if there were 6 E-mail fórums. Most people would belong to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to them all. I don't see the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso world into ever-smaller grounds, but I do see disadvantages.
>
> What do you think?
>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
>>    Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook liaison for every chapter
>>    of POCA.
>>
>>    Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook account if you don't
>>    already have one, because your missing out on some really good Pantera
>>    stuff...
>>
>>    I have made all these pages so far:
>>
>>    POCA Main FB page
>>
>>    [1]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>>
>>    SDP FB Page
>>
>>    [2]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>>
>>    Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
>>
>>    [3]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
>>    6?ref=hl
>>
>>    AZ Panteras
>>
>>    [4]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>>
>>    Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
>>
>>    [5]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>>
>>    POCA Main Group Page
>>
>>    [6]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>>
>>    POCA Fun Rally Page
>>
>>    [7]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>>
>>    and here is my personal page:
>>
>>    [8]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
>>
>>    I've also made a Facebook page for each and every chapter.
>>
>>    Other pages:
>>
>>    Foothill Panteras - Secret group
>>
>>    [9]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>>
>>    Panteras Northwest
>>
>>    [10]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>>
>>    NY Panteras
>>
>>    [11]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>>
>>    Jersey Panteras
>>
>>    [12]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>>
>>    DeTomaso Pantera USA
>>
>>    [13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>>
>>    DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
>>
>>    [14]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>>
>>    Strada Pantera
>>
>>    [15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>>
>>    DeTomaso Friends
>>
>>    [16]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>>
>>    DeTomaso Registry
>>
>>    [17]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>>
>>    DeTomaso Club of France
>>
>>    [18]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>>
>>    DeTomaso Owners of Australia
>>
>>    [19]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>>
>>    Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see what our Japanese
>>    counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
>>
>>    [20]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>>
>>    And many many more.
>>
>>    A lot of these popped up since I started ours, some before. There are
>>    over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp, etc related sites now.
>>    Many people are now using Facebook to ask questions instead of the
>>    forums and websites. TRUE.
>>
>>    Like this one:
>>
>>    Clevelands Forever - [21]351c.net - anything you ever wanted to know
>>    and didn't know about the 351C!
>>
>>    [22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>>
>>    Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't have access to all of
>>    this great stuff!!
>>
>>    Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
>>
>>    This is the future of our great club!
>>
>>    In the meantime please enjoy this video of the POCA Fun Rally in San
>>    Diego.
>>
>>    Enjoy!
>>
>>    [23]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>>
>>    Ed Mendez
>>
>>    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
>>    2. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
>>    3. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276?ref=hl
>>    4. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
>>    5. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
>>    6. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
>>    7. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
>>    8. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
>>    9. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
>>   10. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
>>   11. panterashttps://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
>>   12. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
>>   13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
>>   14. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
>>   15. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
>>   16. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
>>   17. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
>>   18. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
>>   19. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
>>   20. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
>>   21. http://351c.net/
>>   22. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
>>   23. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
>>
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   Julian,

   Your dog will never be worth a million, but soon your car will be.

   Cheers,
   Bill Moore
   Incendium Supply
   Calgary

   -------- Original message --------
   From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Date: 2016-02-01 9:52 AM (GMT-07:00)
   To: Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com>, Charles McCall
   <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA at yahoogroups.com>,
   San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras at googlegroups.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
   There are two scenarios as I see it for the future of Facebook a) be
   scared, be very scared or b) anyone remember MySpace?
   I put a post on the email forum, then 10 minutes later I get 3
   notifications from Facebook for that same information. Then someone
   comments on it and it appears on FB all over again! It's like living
   inside an Alzheimer's dream!
   And there we go with statistics again; that assumption correlation =
   causation crap, just because someone posts a few photos of Panteras on
   FB doesn't cause the price to increase; holy shit my dog would be worth
   millions if that's the case.
   In between all these Pantera notifications I dig through other FB posts
   and unravel a few untruths where someone's put a caption on a photo and
   feels the need to 'share' the shit out of it without any due diligence,
   just because it's on FB it must be true right!
   And now there's the targeted advertising, search for something on any
   site and there it is on FB, well I can tell you I'm already fed up with
   ad's for dildo's and blow up dolls.
   Julian
   ________________________________________
   From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Ed Mendez
   <edducati at mac.com>
   Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:01 AM
   To: Charles McCall
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Space City Panteras; San Diego Panteras
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA on Facebook
   I understand about the multiple posts, that would be my fault. :-) I'm
   the guilty party. I'm a Facebook over achiever I've been told.
   Myself, I Like a few 100 pages, not all Pantera related, a lot of hot
   rod and chopper pages and other cool stuff. I get 1000s of posts daily
   but they go to my newsfeed. The posts that are done across several
   Pantera pages only go on your newsfeed and not on your own page. There
   are settings in FB to allow or disallow posts. You can limit the
   number. You can also subscribe or unsubscribe to which ever pages you
   want to.
   I feel multiple pages has been a good idea; to saturate FB with Pantera
   stuff, this has in turn brought more publicity and recognition to our
   cars and has increased value.
   It's also brought a worldwide group of us enthusiasts together. Heck I
   didn't know there was a Pantera Club of Japan or the likes of Junika
   Okada and the awesome work he does over there.
   The point of my email was to get folks on FB if they aren't already and
   to ask each chapter to get active and promote their own FB page, this
   has and will grow membership. That's the bottom line - grow and get
   people interested. All the pages are there already (for the chapters)
   So yea I sometimes post the same message to many of the groups and
   pages at the same time. So everyone does get it. All good, I'll try not
   to cross post so much. ;-)
   Lack of unity is Facebook, but Facebook is a tool to unite all that
   love this car.
   We even have a Twitter account I just don't have the time... @pocausa
   Ed
   Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
   > On 1/02/2016, at 22:56, Charles McCall <charlesmccall at gmail.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > Ed,
   > Is this a good idea? One thing that I think is negative for
   communication is that there is a certain lack of unity or coordination
   on FB. There are a dozen DeTomaso pages that have a fair amount of
   activity. If you have a message that you want to make sure that
   everyone gets, then you need to cross-post on a half-dozen pages.
   People who subscribe to those pages get the same message a half-dozen
   times, which gets annoying. It happens now, and it will only get worse
   if people keep generating new FB Pantera pages.
   >
   > It would be as if there were 6 E-mail forums. Most people would
   belong to several, but to reach everyone you need to post to them all.
   I don't see the advantage in splintering the DeTomaso world into
   ever-smaller grounds, but I do see disadvantages.
   >
   > What do you think?
   >
   >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Ed Mendez <edducati at mac.com> wrote:
   >>    Just an email reminder. Still need a Facebook liaison for every
   chapter
   >>    of POCA.
   >>
   >>    Encouraging you all to please get a Facebook account if you don't
   >>    already have one, because your missing out on some really good
   Pantera
   >>    stuff...
   >>
   >>    I have made all these pages so far:
   >>
   >>    POCA Main FB page
   >>
   >>    [1]https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
   >>
   >>    SDP FB Page
   >>
   >>    [2]https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
   >>
   >>    Full Throttle Panteras - made this for Don Byars
   >>
   >>
   [3]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/57170650626227
   >>    6?ref=hl
   >>
   >>    AZ Panteras
   >>
   >>    [4]https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
   >>
   >>    Pantera Owners Club of New Zealand
   >>
   >>    [5]https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
   >>
   >>    POCA Main Group Page
   >>
   >>    [6]https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
   >>
   >>    POCA Fun Rally Page
   >>
   >>    [7]https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
   >>
   >>    and here is my personal page:
   >>
   >>    [8]https://www.facebook.com/edducati
   >>
   >>    I've also made a Facebook page for each and every chapter.
   >>
   >>    Other pages:
   >>
   >>    Foothill Panteras - Secret group
   >>
   >>    [9]https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
   >>
   >>    Panteras Northwest
   >>
   >>    [10]https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
   >>
   >>    NY Panteras
   >>
   >>    [11]https://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
   >>
   >>    Jersey Panteras
   >>
   >>    [12]https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
   >>
   >>    DeTomaso Pantera USA
   >>
   >>    [13]https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
   >>
   >>    DeTomaso Pantera Summer Summit
   >>
   >>    [14]https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
   >>
   >>    Strada Pantera
   >>
   >>    [15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
   >>
   >>    DeTomaso Friends
   >>
   >>    [16]https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
   >>
   >>    DeTomaso Registry
   >>
   >>    [17]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
   >>
   >>    DeTomaso Club of France
   >>
   >>    [18]https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
   >>
   >>    DeTomaso Owners of Australia
   >>
   >>    [19]https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
   >>
   >>    Juni Okada of Team Pantera Japan - you have to see what our
   Japanese
   >>    counterparts are doing with their Panteras!!!
   >>
   >>    [20]https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
   >>
   >>    And many many more.
   >>
   >>    A lot of these popped up since I started ours, some before. There
   are
   >>    over 50 DeTomaso, Pantera, Mangusta, Longchamp, etc related sites
   now.
   >>    Many people are now using Facebook to ask questions instead of
   the
   >>    forums and websites. TRUE.
   >>
   >>    Like this one:
   >>
   >>    Clevelands Forever - [21]351c.net - anything you ever wanted to
   know
   >>    and didn't know about the 351C!
   >>
   >>    [22]https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
   >>
   >>    Of course, if you are not on Facebook, you don't have access to
   all of
   >>    this great stuff!!
   >>
   >>    Scared of Facebook? No reason to be.
   >>
   >>    This is the future of our great club!
   >>
   >>    In the meantime please enjoy this video of the POCA Fun Rally in
   San
   >>    Diego.
   >>
   >>    Enjoy!
   >>
   >>    [23]http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
   >>
   >>    Ed Mendez
   >>
   >>    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
   >>
   >> References
   >>
   >>    1. https://www.facebook.com/PanteraOwnersClubOfAmerica?ref=hl
   >>    2. https://www.facebook.com/sandiegopanteras?ref=hl
   >>    3.
   https://www.facebook.com/pages/Full-Throttle-Panteras/571706506262276?r
   ef=hl
   >>    4. https://www.facebook.com/AZPOCA?ref=hl
   >>    5. https://www.facebook.com/POCANZ?ref=hl
   >>    6. https://www.facebook.com/groups/PanteraOwnersClubofAmerica/
   >>    7. https://www.facebook.com/groups/POCAFunRally/
   >>    8. https://www.facebook.com/edducati
   >>    9. https://www.facebook.com/groups/346579745456553/
   >>   10. https://www.facebook.com/PanterasNorthwest
   >>   11. panterashttps://www.facebook.com/ny.pantera?fref=ts
   >>   12. https://www.facebook.com/jerseypanteras
   >>   13. https://www.facebook.com/groups/305681189562337/
   >>   14. https://www.facebook.com/groups/380369945370607/
   >>   15. https://www.facebook.com/groups/361191177228694/
   >>   16. https://www.facebook.com/groups/112749215455769/
   >>   17. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DeTomaso-Registry/43222512926
   >>   18. https://www.facebook.com/pages/DETOMASO-FRANCE/110152742239
   >>   19. https://www.facebook.com/australianpanteras
   >>   20. https://www.facebook.com/TeamPanteraOfJapan
   >>   21. http://351c.net/
   >>   22. https://www.facebook.com/groups/263768747684/
   >>   23. http://youtu.be/8u1AT6X74fw
   >>
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