[DeTomaso] Future of the email list

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Wed Apr 20 13:05:15 EDT 2016


THat is exactly what it will be, there will be over 40 channels

and the system has an opt in daily email notification for a summary of new
activity in the last 24 hours.

Michael



On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

>    All,
>    Keep in mind the reasons people love email.  People love email because
>    it comes to THEM.  It takes little to no
>    effort.   People sit on their emails systems continuously, if not on
>    their desktop, then on their mobile devices.
>    With a forum, people have to go to it.  They have to actually open a
>    browser, go to the website, login, find the
>    forum, yadda yadda yadda.  It takes effort.
>    At JPL, I've been trying to wean missions OFF of emails for years.
>    During 2008 Phoenix landing I had ~40,000
>    emails just form that one mission.  But the end of that year I could
>    delete about 15,000 and had to archive the
>    rest (CYA).
>    Today (on MSL) we use "Slack."   [1]https://slack.com/    But mostly
>    for team collaboration.  But, maybe it
>    could be viewed as a good alternative.  It sends out emails, but uses
>    "Channels" for topics of discussions.  Channels
>    can be both private (user or team) or public.
>    Check it out.  Worth a look.
>    Terry
>
>    "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
>
>     stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
>
>    Terry W. Himes
>
>    JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>
>    InSight Sequence Team Lead
>
>    Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
>
>    Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
>    Cell:     (818) 653-8213
>
>    Fax:     (818) 393-3147
>
>    [2]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
>
>    From: DeTomaso <[3]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of Kurt Byrnes
>    <[4]kdb at kbyrnes.com>
>    Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:59 AM
>    To: Jeff Detrich <[5]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
>    Cc: "[6]detomaso at poca.com" <[7]detomaso at poca.com>
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Future of the email list
>
>    Jeff,
>    I've talked with Michael and we plan on transferring the historical
>    data.  No logistics on how that will happen have been worked out to
>    date
>    but I'm confident we'll make it happen.
>    I would like to restate that although I'm willing to keep the list
>    going, we, as a group, should really give the new forum a chance.
>    Kurt
>    On 4/20/2016 11:30 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:
>
>    Kurt,
>
>    If you do agree to take it over - and I hope you don't have to because
>
>    POCA sees the light and keeps it for itself - it is very important
>
>    that it comes with all the historical archives of past postings. There
>
>    is too much value in those old posts and it would make the email list
>
>    much less desirable. Michael has said that POCA will be saving those
>
>    for use on the new website but I sure hope he intends on also passing
>
>    them along to the new operator of the email list.
>
>    Jeff
>
>    On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Byrnes <[8]kdb at kbyrnes.com
>
>    <[9]mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com>> wrote:
>
>         Although I rarely post, I've been reading this list for many
>
>         years. I find the format convenient and easy to manage.  Although
>
>         there are limitations with attachments and such, I'd hate to see
>
>         it disappear.  I plan on renewing my POCA membership and reading
>
>         the new forums and strongly urge all to do so as well.
>
>         However, I'd love to give back to the community so I've offered to
>
>         keep it going if there's enough interest.
>
>         So, is there interest?  If so, we'll need a new domain name to
>
>         host it.   Suggestions?
>
>         Kurt
>
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>    5. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
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   THat is exactly what it will be, there will be over 40 channels
   and the system has an opt in daily email notification for a summary of
   new activity in the last 24 hours.
   Michael

   On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Himes, Terry (397C)
   <[1]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

     A  A All,
     A  A Keep in mind the reasons people love email.A  People love email
     because
     A  A it comes to THEM.A  It takes little to no
     A  A effort.A  A People sit on their emails systems continuously, if
     not on
     A  A their desktop, then on their mobile devices.
     A  A With a forum, people have to go to it.A  They have to actually
     open a
     A  A browser, go to the website, login, find the
     A  A forum, yadda yadda yadda.A  It takes effort.
     A  A At JPL, I've been trying to wean missions OFF of emails for
     years.
     A  A During 2008 Phoenix landing I had ~40,000
     A  A emails just form that one mission.A  But the end of that year I
     could
     A  A delete about 15,000 and had to archive the
     A  A rest (CYA).
     A  A Today (on MSL) we use "Slack."A  A [1][2]https://slack.com/A
     A  But mostly
     A  A for team collaboration.A  But, maybe it
     A  A could be viewed as a good alternative.A  It sends out emails,
     but uses
     A  A "Channels" for topics of discussions.A  Channels
     A  A can be both private (user or team) or public.
     A  A Check it out.A  Worth a look.
     A  A Terry
     A  A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
     A  A  stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
     A  A Terry W. Himes
     A  A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
     A  A InSight Sequence Team Lead
     A  A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
     A  A Phone: [3](818) 393-6261
     A  A Cell:A  A  A [4](818) 653-8213
     A  A Fax:A  A  A [5](818) 393-3147
     A  A [2][6]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
     A  A From: DeTomaso <[3][7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
     Kurt Byrnes
     A  A <[4][8]kdb at kbyrnes.com>
     A  A Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:59 AM
     A  A To: Jeff Detrich <[5][9]jjdetrich at gmail.com>
     A  A Cc: "[6][10]detomaso at poca.com" <[7][11]detomaso at poca.com>
     A  A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Future of the email list
     A  A Jeff,
     A  A I've talked with Michael and we plan on transferring the
     historical
     A  A data.A  No logistics on how that will happen have been worked
     out to
     A  A date
     A  A but I'm confident we'll make it happen.
     A  A I would like to restate that although I'm willing to keep the
     list
     A  A going, we, as a group, should really give the new forum a
     chance.
     A  A Kurt
     A  A On 4/20/2016 11:30 AM, Jeff Detrich wrote:
     A  A Kurt,
     A  A If you do agree to take it over - and I hope you don't have to
     because
     A  A POCA sees the light and keeps it for itself - it is very
     important
     A  A that it comes with all the historical archives of past
     postings. There
     A  A is too much value in those old posts and it would make the
     email list
     A  A much less desirable. Michael has said that POCA will be saving
     those
     A  A for use on the new website but I sure hope he intends on also
     passing
     A  A them along to the new operator of the email list.
     A  A Jeff
     A  A On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Kurt Byrnes
     <[8][12]kdb at kbyrnes.com
     A  A <[9]mailto:[13]kdb at kbyrnes.com>> wrote:
     A  A  A  A  Although I rarely post, I've been reading this list for
     many
     A  A  A  A  years. I find the format convenient and easy to
     manage.A  Although
     A  A  A  A  there are limitations with attachments and such, I'd
     hate to see
     A  A  A  A  it disappear.A  I plan on renewing my POCA membership
     and reading
     A  A  A  A  the new forums and strongly urge all to do so as well.
     A  A  A  A  However, I'd love to give back to the community so I've
     offered to
     A  A  A  A  keep it going if there's enough interest.
     A  A  A  A  So, is there interest?A  If so, we'll need a new domain
     name to
     A  A  A  A  host it.A  A Suggestions?
     A  A  A  A  Kurt
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   3. tel:%28818%29%20393-6261
   4. tel:%28818%29%20653-8213
   5. tel:%28818%29%20393-3147
   6. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
   7. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
   8. mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com
   9. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
  10. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  12. mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com
  13. mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com
  14. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  15. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
  16. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
  17. https://slack.com/
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  19. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
  20. mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com
  21. mailto:jjdetrich at gmail.com
  22. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  23. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
  24. mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com
  25. mailto:kdb at kbyrnes.com
  26. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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