[DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT

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Thank you for the good input, Michael
Cristiano

      Fra: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
 Til: thpnma02869 at yahoo.com 
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 Sendt: 6:29 søndag den 3. april 2016
 Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT
   
IMHO, and proven by auctions over the last few years, buyers and collectors both want a Pantera with the original 351 Cleveland , next in value would be one with a replacement Cleveland, Third might be a Clevor, Four the Windsor and Fifth, anything else.
You can build a Cleveland unstressed and still get 330 hp, which is plenty to push a 3100 car around.
If you want to protect your investment, stay with a Cleveland.Michael ShorttOn Apr 3, 2016 12:19 AM, "Cristiano Rossi via DeTomaso" <detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

   Sorry for this late comment to the thread but I have been on holidays.
   Does a 351w engine also reduce the value? It is after all still a 351
   in cast iron with the right sound and looks.
   I am considering to switch to a 351 HO SVO if they are still available
   as new.
   Cristiano Rossi
   thpnma 02869
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   Sendt: 5:46 fredag den 25. marts 2016
   Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT
     Collectors do not want alternate engines.
     Those are the folks driving the price increases.
     50K is dirt cheap for a semi ratty unmolested Pantera, this one
   wasn't
     ratty, but it was far from original...No Sale.
     Michael Shortt
     On Mar 25, 2016 12:31 AM, "Will Kooiman"
   <[1][1]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     wrote:
       $73K in receipts to a no-sale at $50K.
       I donA^1t see $73K in work done, but I see at least $20K remaining
       to make
       it really nice.
       On 3/24/16, 7:32 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
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   4. http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-4/
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   Thank you for the good input, Michael
   Cristiano
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   Fra: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
   Til: thpnma02869 at yahoo.com
   Cc: detomaso at poca.com
   Sendt: 6:29 sA,ndag den 3. april 2016
   Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT
   IMHO, and proven by auctions over the last few years, buyers and
   collectors both want a Pantera with the original 351 Cleveland , next
   in value would be one with a replacement Cleveland, Third might be a
   Clevor, Four the Windsor and Fifth, anything else.
   You can build a Cleveland unstressed and still get 330 hp, which is
   plenty to push a 3100 car around.
   If you want to protect your investment, stay with a Cleveland.
   Michael Shortt
   On Apr 3, 2016 12:19 AM, "Cristiano Rossi via DeTomaso"
   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

        Sorry for this late comment to the thread but I have been on
     holidays.
        Does a 351w engine also reduce the value? It is after all still a
     351
        in cast iron with the right sound and looks.
        I am considering to switch to a 351 HO SVO if they are still
     available
        as new.
        Cristiano Rossi
        thpnma 02869

     __________________________________________________________________
        Fra: Michael Shortt <[2]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
        Til: Will Kooiman <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
        Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com; Mike Thomas <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
        Sendt: 5:46 fredag den 25. marts 2016
        Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT
          Collectors do not want alternate engines.
          Those are the folks driving the price increases.
          50K is dirt cheap for a semi ratty unmolested Pantera, this one
        wasn't
          ratty, but it was far from original...No Sale.
          Michael Shortt
          On Mar 25, 2016 12:31 AM, "Will Kooiman"
        <[1][1][6]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
          wrote:
            $73K in receipts to a no-sale at $50K.
            I donA^1t see $73K in work done, but I see at least $20K
     remaining
            to make
            it really nice.
            On 3/24/16, 7:32 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
            <[2][2][7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
            [3][3][8]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
            >A
            A

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     /
            >
            >
            >A  A Mike
            >
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