[DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT

Michael Shortt michaelsavga at gmail.com
Sun Apr 3 00:29:55 EDT 2016


IMHO, and proven by auctions over the last few years, buyers and collectors
both want a Pantera with the original 351 Cleveland , next in value would
be one with a replacement Cleveland, Third might be a Clevor, Four the
Windsor and Fifth, anything else.
You can build a Cleveland unstressed and still get 330 hp, which is plenty
to push a 3100 car around.
If you want to protect your investment, stay with a Cleveland.

Michael Shortt
On Apr 3, 2016 12:19 AM, "Cristiano Rossi via DeTomaso" <detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:

>    Sorry for this late comment to the thread but I have been on holidays.
>    Does a 351w engine also reduce the value? It is after all still a 351
>    in cast iron with the right sound and looks.
>    I am considering to switch to a 351 HO SVO if they are still available
>    as new.
>    Cristiano Rossi
>    thpnma 02869
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>    Fra: Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
>    Til: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>    Cc: detomaso at poca.com; Mike Thomas <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>    Sendt: 5:46 fredag den 25. marts 2016
>    Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT
>      Collectors do not want alternate engines.
>      Those are the folks driving the price increases.
>      50K is dirt cheap for a semi ratty unmolested Pantera, this one
>    wasn't
>      ratty, but it was far from original...No Sale.
>      Michael Shortt
>      On Mar 25, 2016 12:31 AM, "Will Kooiman"
>    <[1][1]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>      wrote:
>        $73K in receipts to a no-sale at $50K.
>        I donA^1t see $73K in work done, but I see at least $20K remaining
>        to make
>        it really nice.
>        On 3/24/16, 7:32 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
>        <[2][2]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>        [3][3]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
>        >A
>        A
>    [1][4][4]http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-4/
>        >
>        >
>        >A  A Mike
>        >
>        >References
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>    4. http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-4/
>    5. http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-4/
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   IMHO, and proven by auctions over the last few years, buyers and
   collectors both want a Pantera with the original 351 Cleveland , next
   in value would be one with a replacement Cleveland, Third might be a
   Clevor, Four the Windsor and Fifth, anything else.
   You can build a Cleveland unstressed and still get 330 hp, which is
   plenty to push a 3100 car around.
   If you want to protect your investment, stay with a Cleveland.

   Michael Shortt

   On Apr 3, 2016 12:19 AM, "Cristiano Rossi via DeTomaso"
   <[1]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:

     A  A Sorry for this late comment to the thread but I have been on
     holidays.
     A  A Does a 351w engine also reduce the value? It is after all still
     a 351
     A  A in cast iron with the right sound and looks.
     A  A I am considering to switch to a 351 HO SVO if they are still
     available
     A  A as new.
     A  A Cristiano Rossi
     A  A thpnma 02869
     A  A
     A __________________________________________________________________
     A  A Fra: Michael Shortt <[2]michaelsavga at gmail.com>
     A  A Til: Will Kooiman <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     A  A Cc: [4]detomaso at poca.com; Mike Thomas
     <[5]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
     A  A Sendt: 5:46 fredag den 25. marts 2016
     A  A Emne: Re: [DeTomaso] 5.4 conversion on BaT
     A  A  A Collectors do not want alternate engines.
     A  A  A Those are the folks driving the price increases.
     A  A  A 50K is dirt cheap for a semi ratty unmolested Pantera, this
     one
     A  A wasn't
     A  A  A ratty, but it was far from original...No Sale.
     A  A  A Michael Shortt
     A  A  A On Mar 25, 2016 12:31 AM, "Will Kooiman"
     A  A <[1][1][6]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
     A  A  A wrote:
     A  A  A  A $73K in receipts to a no-sale at $50K.
     A  A  A  A I donA^1t see $73K in work done, but I see at least $20K
     remaining
     A  A  A  A to make
     A  A  A  A it really nice.
     A  A  A  A On 3/24/16, 7:32 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Mike Thomas"
     A  A  A  A <[2][2][7]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
     A  A  A  A [3][3][8]mbefthomas at comcast.net> wrote:
     A  A  A  A >A
     A  A  A  A A
     A
     A [1][4][4][9]http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera
     -4/
     A  A  A  A >
     A  A  A  A >
     A  A  A  A >AA  A Mike
     A  A  A  A >
     A  A  A  A >References
     A  A  A  A >
     A  A  A  A >AA  A 1.
     A  A  A
     A [5][5][10]http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-detomaso-pantera-4
     /
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