[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Sep 14 15:21:11 EDT 2015
;-) Yea. I hear you. But this is NOT a discussion forum. In fact, we don't want "options" just the Facts
about Panteras. For example, when a discussion comes to it's natural end, and the topic has been discussed,
then that would be a good FACT to log into the Pantera Wikipedia. The last discussion on THERMOSTATS
is a good example. The results of that discussion could be entered into Wikipedia.
Personally, what I do now is, read all those emails (quickly), delete the options and fluff, then squirrel away the
ones that contain facts.
I just recently had to replace my headlight gear. After 41 years, it finally went kaput. Probably the only thing, except
the radiator, I haven't replaced. But that little adventure would have been perfect to document on the wiki. Again,
tribal knowledge which frankly I learned from people here and Don Byars. Not a hard job, if you've done it before!
Feel free to disagree. I'm just spit-ballin here.
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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com>>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:12 AM
To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>, Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>>
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that and no one uses it......
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
From: rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>
To: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
CC: MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>; kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>; jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>; mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>; DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
Terry,
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior, exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far) and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed. I certainly would have been able to make better decisions along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
> Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge. I was
> thinking, since our Pantera's are going
> to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's. The
> MediaWiki it's is built on is free. I set one
> up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
> about spaceflight. Hmmmm? Internally we
> don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated. But on the
> Internet it would have to be monitored. I think
> I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7. (I might not
> remember correctly, but a lot) It wouldn't
> be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> *"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
>
> * exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>
> * to contact us!"*
>
>
> *Terry W. Himes *
>
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>
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>
> *Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
>
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>
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>
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> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>> on behalf of POCA <
> detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> Reply-To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com>>
> Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>, "jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>" <jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>,
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> >
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
> windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
> probably replicate that though?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>> wrote:
>
> That was my confusion last night with the replies.
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [1]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>
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> [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
> glass with an adhesive between them?A
> That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
> filled gap between theA panes.
> Ken
> A
> __________________________________________________________________
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> [8]ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [9]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>; [10]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it isn't
> double
> A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
> A need double pane safety glass."
> A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
> A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why I
> had to
> A buy new glass in the first place.
> A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
> Woodlands
> A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
> A From: <[1][11]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>
> A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
> A To: <[2][12]mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>, Will Kooiman
> A <[3][13]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>, <[4][14]ehpantera at yahoo.com<mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com>>,
> A <[5][15]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>, <[6][16]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>>
> A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
> problems.
> A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
> A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
> A big deal.
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
> A -----Original Message-----
> A From: Mike Thomas <[7][17]mbefthomas at comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net>>
> A To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18]will.kooiman at gmail.com<mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com>>; 'mark skwarek'
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> A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
> A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com>>] On Behalf Of
> Will Kooiman
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> I
> had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine was
> cracked, so
> they could use it as a template.
> It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
> correctly.
> On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
> DeTomaso"
> <[18][28]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
> [19][29]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
> wrote:
>
> A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
>
> separate
>
> A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
> Mark
>
> A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
> <[20][30]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>> wrote:
>
> A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
>
> Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
>
> A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
>
> sound deadening; I
>
> A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
>
> trouble except during
>
> A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
>
> place & contacts
>
> A the
> A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
>
> Weber velocity stacks
>
> A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
>
> The window is sort
>
> A of
> A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
>
> fires, the glass invariably
>
> A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
>
> not degrade the "safety"
>
> A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
>
> so the rear legs of
>
> A the
> A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
>
> rear fenders. One year at
>
> A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
>
> like this, and the
>
> A SCTA
> A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
>
> window and substitute a
>
> A thin
> A A galvanized steel sheet!
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A A From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
>
> To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32]DeTomaso at poca.com<mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com>>
>
> A A Sent: Thu, Sep
>
> 10, 2015 12:20 pm
>
> A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A Is there anything
>
> special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
>
> A A me
> A think that I
>
> would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
>
> A A just for
> A a
>
> Pantera.
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;-) Yea. I hear you. But this is NOT a discussion forum. In fact,
we don't want "options" just the Facts
about Panteras. For example, when a discussion comes to it's natural
end, and the topic has been discussed,
then that would be a good FACT to log into the Pantera Wikipedia. The
last discussion on THERMOSTATS
is a good example. The results of that discussion could be entered
into Wikipedia.
Personally, what I do now is, read all those emails (quickly), delete
the options and fluff, then squirrel away the
ones that contain facts.
I just recently had to replace my headlight gear. After 41 years, it
finally went kaput. Probably the only thing, except
the radiator, I haven't replaced. But that little adventure would have
been perfect to document on the wiki. Again,
tribal knowledge which frankly I learned from people here and Don
Byars. Not a hard job, if you've done it before!
Feel free to disagree. I'm just spit-ballin here.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:12 AM
To: Rob Dumoulin <[3]rob at dumoulins.net>, Terry Himes
<[4]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "[5]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[6]mikeldrew at aol.com>, Ken Green
<[7]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, Jack Deryke <[8]jderyke at aol.com>,
"[9]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[10]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA
<[11]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a
discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that
and no one uses it......
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
From: [12]rob at dumoulins.net
To: [13]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
CC: [14]MikeLDrew at aol.com; [15]kenn_green at yahoo.com;
[16]jderyke at aol.com; [17]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [18]DeTomaso at poca.com
Terry,
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior, exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far) and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed. I certainly would have been able to make better decisions along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[19]rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
[20]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
[21]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge. I was
> thinking, since our Pantera's are going
> to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's. The
> MediaWiki it's is built on is free. I set one
> up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
> about spaceflight. Hmmmm? Internally we
> don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated. But on the
> Internet it would have to be monitored. I think
> I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7. (I might not
> remember correctly, but a lot) It wouldn't
> be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> *"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
>
> * exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>
> * to contact us!"*
>
>
> *Terry W. Himes *
>
> *JPL** Jet Propulsion Laboratory*
>
> *InSight Sequence Team Lead*
>
> *Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell: (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax: (818) 393-3147
>
> [22]*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <[23]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>*
>
> Regional indicator for USA
>
> From: DeTomaso <[24]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA <
> [25]detomaso at poca.com>
> Reply-To: Mike Drew <[26]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
> To: Rob Dumoulin <[27]rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: Ken Green <[28]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[29]jderyke at aol.com" <[30]jderyke at a
ol.com>,
> "[31]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[32]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA <[33]detomaso@
poca.com
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
> windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
> probably replicate that though?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <[34]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
> That was my confusion last night with the replies.
> Rob DuMoulin
> 904.476.8744
> [1][35]rob at dumoulins.net
> [2]www.kbsi.co
> [3][36]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4][37]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
> glass with an adhesive between them?A
> That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
> filled gap between theA panes.
> Ken
> A
> __________________________________________________________________
> From: Will Kooiman <[5][38]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> To: [6][39]jderyke at aol.com; [7][40]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
> [8][41]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9][42]rob at dumoulins.net; [10][43]DeTomaso at poca
.com
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it isn't
> double
> A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
> A need double pane safety glass."
> A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
> A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why I
> had to
> A buy new glass in the first place.
> A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
> Woodlands
> A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
> A From: <[1][11][44]jderyke at aol.com>
> A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
> A To: <[2][12][45]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
> A <[3][13][46]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4][14][47]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
> A <[5][15][48]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16][49]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
> problems.
> A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
> A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
> A big deal.
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
> A -----Original Message-----
> A From: Mike Thomas <[7][17][50]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> A To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18][51]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
> A <[9][19][52]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][20][53]jderyke at aol.com>;
rob
> A <[11][21][54]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12][22][55]DeTomaso at poca.com
>
> A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
> A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: DeTomaso [[13][56]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <[23][57]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf Of
> Will Kooiman
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
> To: mark skwarek
> <[14][24][58]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25][59]jderyke at aol.com;
> [16][26][60]rob at dumoulins.net;
> [17][27][61]DeTomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> I
> had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine was
> cracked, so
> they could use it as a template.
> It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
> correctly.
> On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
> DeTomaso"
> <[18][28][62]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
> [19][29][63]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>
> A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
>
> separate
>
> A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
> Mark
>
> A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
> <[20][30][64]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
>
> Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
>
> A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
>
> sound deadening; I
>
> A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
>
> trouble except during
>
> A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
>
> place & contacts
>
> A the
> A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
>
> Weber velocity stacks
>
> A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
>
> The window is sort
>
> A of
> A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
>
> fires, the glass invariably
>
> A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
>
> not degrade the "safety"
>
> A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
>
> so the rear legs of
>
> A the
> A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
>
> rear fenders. One year at
>
> A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
>
> like this, and the
>
> A SCTA
> A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
>
> window and substitute a
>
> A thin
> A A galvanized steel sheet!
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A A From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31][65]rob at dumoulins.net>
>
> To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32][66]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>
> A A Sent: Thu, Sep
>
> 10, 2015 12:20 pm
>
> A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A Is there anything
>
> special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
>
> A A me
> A think that I
>
> would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
>
> A A just for
> A a
>
> Pantera.
>
> A A RobA
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> A 1. [91]mailto:[51]jderyke at aol.com <[51][92]jderyke at aol.com>
> A 2. [93]mailto:[52]mbefthomas at comcast.net <[52][94]mbefthomas at comcast.net
>
> A 3. [95]mailto:[53]will.kooiman at gmail.com <[53][96]will.kooiman at gmail.com
>
> A 4. [97]mailto:[54]ehpantera at yahoo.com <[54][98]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> A 5. [99]mailto:[55]rob at dumoulins.net <[55][100]rob at dumoulins.net>
> A 6. [101]mailto:[56]DeTomaso at poca.com <[56][102]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 7. [103]mailto:[57]mbefthomas at comcast.net <[57][104]mbefthomas at comcast.n
et>
> A 8. [105]mailto:[58]will.kooiman at gmail.com <[58][106]will.kooiman at gmail.c
om>
> A 9. [107]mailto:[59]ehpantera at yahoo.com <[59][108]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> A 10. [109]mailto:[60]jderyke at aol.com <[60][110]jderyke at aol.com>
> A 11. [111]mailto:[61]rob at dumoulins.net <[61][112]rob at dumoulins.net>
> A 12. [113]mailto:[62]DeTomaso at poca.com <[62][114]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 13. [115]mailto:[63]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <[63][116]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>?
> A 14. [117]mailto:[64]ehpantera at yahoo.com <[64][118]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> A 15. [119]mailto:[65]jderyke at aol.com <[65][120]jderyke at aol.com>
> A 16. [121]mailto:[66]rob at dumoulins.net <[66][122]rob at dumoulins.net>
> A 17. [123]mailto:[67]DeTomaso at poca.com <[67][124]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 18. [125]mailto:[68]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <[68][126]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> A 19. [127]mailto:[69]detomaso at poca.com <[69][128]detomaso at poca.com>
> A 20. [129]mailto:[70]detomaso at poca.com <[70][130]detomaso at poca.com>
> A 21. [131]mailto:[71]rob at dumoulins.net <[71][132]rob at dumoulins.net>
> A 22. [133]mailto:[72]DeTomaso at poca.com <[72][134]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 23. [135]mailto:[73]DeTomaso at poca.com <[73][136]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 24. [74][137]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 25. [138]mailto:[5][75]DeTomaso at poca.com <[5][75][139]DeTomaso at poca.com>
?
> A 26. [76][140]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 27. [141]mailto:[77]DeTomaso at poca.com <[77][142]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 28. [78][143]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 29. [144]mailto:[79]rob at dumoulins.net <[79][145]rob at dumoulins.net>?
> A 30. [146]mailto:[80]DeTomaso at poca.com <[80][147]DeTomaso at poca.com>?
> A 31. [148]mailto:[81]DeTomaso at poca.com <[81][149]DeTomaso at poca.com>?
> A 32. [82][150]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 33. [151]mailto:[83]DeTomaso at poca.com <[83][152]DeTomaso at poca.com>?
> A 34. [84][153]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 35. [154]mailto:[85]DeTomaso at poca.com <[85][155]DeTomaso at poca.com>?
> A 36. [86][156]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 37. [157]mailto:[87]DeTomaso at poca.com <[87][158]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 38. [88][159]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> A 39. [160]mailto:[89]DeTomaso at poca.com <[89][161]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> A 40. [90][162]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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> References
> 1. [165]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[166]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 2. [167]http://www.kbsi.co/
> 3. [168]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
> 4. [169]mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com <[170]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
> 5. [171]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[172]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> 6. [173]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[174]jderyke at aol.com>
> 7. [175]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[176]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> 8. [177]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[178]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 9. [179]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[180]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 10. [181]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[182]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 11. [183]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[184]jderyke at aol.com>
> 12. [185]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[186]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> 13. [187]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[188]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> 14. [189]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[190]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 15. [191]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[192]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 16. [193]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[194]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 17. [195]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[196]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> 18. [197]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[198]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> 19. [199]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[200]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 20. [201]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[202]jderyke at aol.com>
> 21. [203]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[204]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 22. [205]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[206]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 23. [207]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <[208]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> 24. [209]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[210]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 25. [211]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[212]jderyke at aol.com>
> 26. [213]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[214]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 27. [215]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[216]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 28. [217]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <[218]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> 29. [219]mailto:detomaso at poca.com <[220]detomaso at poca.com>
> 30. [221]mailto:detomaso at poca.com <[222]detomaso at poca.com>
> 31. [223]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[224]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 32. [225]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[226]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 33. [227]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[228]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 34. [229]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 35. [230]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[231]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 36. [232]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 37. [233]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[234]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 38. [235]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 39. [236]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[237]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 40. [238]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[239]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 41. [240]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[241]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 42. [242]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 43. [243]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[244]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 44. [245]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 45. [246]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[247]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 46. [248]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 47. [249]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[250]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 48. [251]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 49. [252]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[253]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 50. [254]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 51. [255]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[256]jderyke at aol.com>
> 52. [257]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[258]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> 53. [259]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[260]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> 54. [261]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[262]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 55. [263]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[264]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 56. [265]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[266]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 57. [267]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[268]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> 58. [269]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[270]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> 59. [271]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[272]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 60. [273]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[274]jderyke at aol.com>
> 61. [275]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[276]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 62. [277]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[278]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 63. [279]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <[280]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> 64. [281]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[282]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
> 65. [283]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[284]jderyke at aol.com>
> 66. [285]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[286]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 67. [287]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[288]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 68. [289]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com <[290]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>
> 69. [291]mailto:detomaso at poca.com <[292]detomaso at poca.com>
> 70. [293]mailto:detomaso at poca.com <[294]detomaso at poca.com>
> 71. [295]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[296]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 72. [297]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[298]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 73. [299]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[300]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 74. [301]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 75. [302]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[303]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 76. [304]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 77. [305]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[306]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 78. [307]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 79. [308]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[309]rob at dumoulins.net>
> 80. [310]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[311]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 81. [312]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[313]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 82. [314]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 83. [315]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[316]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 84. [317]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 85. [318]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[319]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 86. [320]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 87. [321]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[322]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 88. [323]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 89. [324]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[325]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 90. [326]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
> 91. [327]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[328]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> 92. [329]http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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References
1. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
2. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
3. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
4. mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
5. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
6. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
7. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
8. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
9. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
10. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
11. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
12. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
13. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
14. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
15. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
16. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
17. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
18. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
19. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
20. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
21. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
22. mailto:*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
23. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
24. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
25. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
26. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
27. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
28. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
29. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
30. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
31. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
32. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
33. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
34. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
35. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
36. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
37. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
38. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
39. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
40. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
41. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
42. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
43. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
44. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
45. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
46. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
47. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
48. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
49. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
50. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
51. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
52. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
53. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
54. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
55. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
56. mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
57. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
58. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
59. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
60. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
61. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
62. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
63. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
64. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
65. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
66. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
67. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
68. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
69. mailto:[5][35]DeTomaso at poca.com
70. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
71. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
72. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
73. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
74. mailto:[39]rob at dumoulins.net
75. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
76. mailto:[40]DeTomaso at poca.com
77. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
78. mailto:[41]DeTomaso at poca.com
79. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
80. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
81. mailto:[43]DeTomaso at poca.com
82. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
83. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
84. mailto:[45]DeTomaso at poca.com
85. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
86. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
87. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
88. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/deto
89. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
90. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
91. mailto:[51]jderyke at aol.com
92. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
93. mailto:[52]mbefthomas at comcast.net
94. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
95. mailto:[53]will.kooiman at gmail.com
96. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
97. mailto:[54]ehpantera at yahoo.com
98. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
99. mailto:[55]rob at dumoulins.net
100. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
101. mailto:[56]DeTomaso at poca.com
102. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
103. mailto:[57]mbefthomas at comcast.net
104. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
105. mailto:[58]will.kooiman at gmail.com
106. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
107. mailto:[59]ehpantera at yahoo.com
108. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
109. mailto:[60]jderyke at aol.com
110. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
111. mailto:[61]rob at dumoulins.net
112. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
113. mailto:[62]DeTomaso at poca.com
114. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
115. mailto:[63]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
116. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
117. mailto:[64]ehpantera at yahoo.com
118. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
119. mailto:[65]jderyke at aol.com
120. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
121. mailto:[66]rob at dumoulins.net
122. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
123. mailto:[67]DeTomaso at poca.com
124. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
125. mailto:[68]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
126. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
127. mailto:[69]detomaso at poca.com
128. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
129. mailto:[70]detomaso at poca.com
130. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
131. mailto:[71]rob at dumoulins.net
132. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
133. mailto:[72]DeTomaso at poca.com
134. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
135. mailto:[73]DeTomaso at poca.com
136. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
137. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
138. mailto:[5][75]DeTomaso at poca.com
139. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
140. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
141. mailto:[77]DeTomaso at poca.com
142. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
143. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
144. mailto:[79]rob at dumoulins.net
145. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
146. mailto:[80]DeTomaso at poca.com
147. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
148. mailto:[81]DeTomaso at poca.com
149. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
150. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
151. mailto:[83]DeTomaso at poca.com
152. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
153. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
154. mailto:[85]DeTomaso at poca.com
155. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
156. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
157. mailto:[87]DeTomaso at poca.com
158. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
159. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
160. mailto:[89]DeTomaso at poca.com
161. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
162. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
163. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
164. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
165. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
166. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
167. http://www.kbsi.co/
168. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
169. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
170. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
171. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
172. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
173. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
174. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
175. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
176. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
177. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
178. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
179. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
180. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
181. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
182. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
183. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
184. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
185. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
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