[DeTomaso] Rear Glass

Julian Kift julian_kift at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 14 17:31:32 EDT 2015


That Sir is exactly what I do, then when I have time (not very frequently these days) I pull all the stored emails into a Word document by topic.
 
But you do realize by doing all that online that eventually the discussion board will just dwindle down to politics and BS ;)
 
Julian
 
From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; rob at dumoulins.net
CC: mikeldrew at aol.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; jderyke at aol.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:21:11 +0000







;-)   Yea.  I hear you.  But this is NOT a discussion forum.  In fact, we don't want "options"  just the Facts
about Panteras.  For example, when a discussion comes to it's natural end, and the topic has been discussed,
then that would be a good FACT to log into the Pantera Wikipedia.  The last discussion on THERMOSTATS 
is a good example.  The results of that discussion could be entered into Wikipedia.



Personally, what I do now is, read all those emails (quickly), delete the options and fluff, then squirrel away the 
ones that contain facts. 



I just recently had to replace my headlight gear.  After 41 years, it finally went kaput.  Probably the only thing, except
the radiator, I haven't replaced.  But that little adventure would have been perfect to document on the wiki. Again,
tribal knowledge which frankly I learned from people here and Don Byars.  Not a hard job, if you've done it before!



Feel free to disagree.  I'm just spit-ballin here.













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From: Julian Kift <julian_kift at hotmail.com>

Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:12 AM

To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>, Terry Himes <Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>

Cc: "MikeLDrew at aol.com" <mikeldrew at aol.com>, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, Jack Deryke <jderyke at aol.com>,
 "mbefthomas at comcast.net" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA <detomaso at poca.com>

Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass







Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that and no one uses it......

 

Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400

From: rob at dumoulins.net

To: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov

Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass

CC: MikeLDrew at aol.com; 
kenn_green at yahoo.com; jderyke at aol.com; 
mbefthomas at comcast.net; DeTomaso at poca.com



Terry,
 
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
 
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior, exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
 
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far) and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed.  I certainly would have been able to make better decisions along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
 
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
 
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
 
> Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge.  I was
> thinking, since our Pantera's are going
> to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's.  The
> MediaWiki it's is built on is free.   I set one
> up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
> about spaceflight.   Hmmmm?   Internally we
> don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated.   But on the
> Internet it would have to be monitored.  I think
> I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7.  (I might not
> remember correctly, but a lot)   It wouldn't
> be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> *"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
>
> *  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>
> *  to contact us!"*
>
>
> *Terry W. Himes *
>
> *JPL** Jet Propulsion Laboratory*
>
> *InSight Sequence Team Lead*
>
> *Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> 
>
> From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA <
> detomaso at poca.com>
> Reply-To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "jderyke at aol.com" <jderyke at aol.com>,
> "mbefthomas at comcast.net" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA <detomaso at poca.com
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
> windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
> probably replicate that though?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
>    That was my confusion last night with the replies.
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    904.476.8744
>    [1]rob at dumoulins.net
>    [2]www.kbsi.co
>    [3]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    wrote:
>    I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
>    glass with an adhesive between them?A
>    That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
>    filled gap between theA panes.
>    Ken
>    A
>      __________________________________________________________________
>    From: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>    To: [6]jderyke at aol.com; [7]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
>    [8]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9]rob at dumoulins.net; [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    A  My glass had the same thickness as the original.A  Maybe it isn't
>    double
>    A  pane.A  I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
>    A  need double pane safety glass."
>    A  The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
>    A  perfect.A  I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A  That's why I
>    had to
>    A  buy new glass in the first place.
>    A  Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A  The shop is
>    Woodlands
>    A  Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
>    A  From: <[1][11]jderyke at aol.com>
>    A  Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
>    A  To: <[2][12]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
>    A  <[3][13]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4][14]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
>    A  <[5][15]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>    A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    A  Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
>    problems.
>    A  And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
>    A  cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
>    A  big deal.
>    Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
>    A  -----Original Message-----
>    A  From: Mike Thomas <[7][17]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>    A  To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
>    A  <[9][19]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][20]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
>    A  <[11][21]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12][22]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>    A  Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
>    A  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
>    -----Original
>    Message-----
>    From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf Of
>    Will Kooiman
>    Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
>    To: mark skwarek
>    <[14][24]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25]jderyke at aol.com;
>    [16][26]rob at dumoulins.net;
>    [17][27]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    I
>    had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A  Mine was
>    cracked, so
>    they could use it as a template.
>    It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
>    correctly.
>    On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
>    DeTomaso"
>    <[18][28]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>    [19][29]detomaso at poca.com>
>    wrote:
>
> A  Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
>
>    separate
>
> A  the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
>    Mark
>
> A  On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
>    <[20][30]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A  A  FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
>
>    Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
>
> A  A  WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
>
>    sound deadening; I
>
> A  A  have one.A  Normally the rear window never gives
>
>    trouble except during
>
> A  A  an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
>
>    place & contacts
>
> A  the
> A  A  window during the pull.A  One owner found that
>
>    Weber velocity stacks
>
> A  A  also can break the glass during engine removals.
>
>    The window is sort
>
> A  of
> A  A  part of the rear firewall, but in engine
>
>    fires, the glass invariably
>
> A  A  shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
>
>    not degrade the "safety"
>
> A  A  aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
>
>    so the rear legs of
>
> A  the
> A  A  factory roll cage can extend though to the
>
>    rear fenders. One year at
>
> A  A  Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
>
>    like this, and the
>
> A  SCTA
> A  A  Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
>
>    window and substitute a
>
> A  thin
> A  A  galvanized steel sheet!
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>
> A  A  From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31]rob at dumoulins.net>
>
>    To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>
> A  A  Sent: Thu, Sep
>
>    10, 2015 12:20 pm
>
> A  A  Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A  Is there anything
>
>    special about the rear glass?AA  It being flat makes
>
> A  A  me
> A  think that I
>
>    would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
>
> A  A  just for
> A  a
>
>    Pantera.
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   That Sir is exactly what I do, then when I have time (not very
   frequently these days) I pull all the stored emails into a Word
   document by topic.

   But you do realize by doing all that online that eventually the
   discussion board will just dwindle down to politics and BS ;)

   Julian
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   To: julian_kift at hotmail.com; rob at dumoulins.net
   CC: mikeldrew at aol.com; kenn_green at yahoo.com; jderyke at aol.com;
   mbefthomas at comcast.net; detomaso at poca.com
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:21:11 +0000
   ;-)   Yea.  I hear you.  But this is NOT a discussion forum.  In fact,
   we don't want "options"  just the Facts
   about Panteras.  For example, when a discussion comes to it's natural
   end, and the topic has been discussed,
   then that would be a good FACT to log into the Pantera Wikipedia.  The
   last discussion on THERMOSTATS
   is a good example.  The results of that discussion could be entered
   into Wikipedia.
   Personally, what I do now is, read all those emails (quickly), delete
   the options and fluff, then squirrel away the
   ones that contain facts.
   I just recently had to replace my headlight gear.  After 41 years, it
   finally went kaput.  Probably the only thing, except
   the radiator, I haven't replaced.  But that little adventure would have
   been perfect to document on the wiki. Again,
   tribal knowledge which frankly I learned from people here and Don
   Byars.  Not a hard job, if you've done it before!
   Feel free to disagree.  I'm just spit-ballin here.

   "Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life

     exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried

     to contact us!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   InSight Sequence Team Lead

   Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261[1] Call: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213[2] Call: (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147[3] Call: (818) 393-3147

   [4]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov

   Regional indicator for USA
   From: Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift at hotmail.com>
   Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:12 AM
   To: Rob Dumoulin <[6]rob at dumoulins.net>, Terry Himes
   <[7]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
   Cc: "[8]MikeLDrew at aol.com" <[9]mikeldrew at aol.com>, Ken Green
   <[10]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, Jack Deryke <[11]jderyke at aol.com>,
   "[12]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[13]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA
   <[14]detomaso at poca.com>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a
   discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that
   and no one uses it......

   Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
   From: [15]rob at dumoulins.net
   To: [16]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
   CC: [17]MikeLDrew at aol.com; [18]kenn_green at yahoo.com;
   [19]jderyke at aol.com; [20]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [21]DeTomaso at poca.com
Terry,

I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?

Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior, exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).

I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far) and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed.  I certainly would have been able to make better decisions along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..

Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[22]rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
[23]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
[24]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge.  I was
> thinking, since our Pantera's are going
> to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's.  The
> MediaWiki it's is built on is free.   I set one
> up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
> about spaceflight.   Hmmmm?   Internally we
> don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated.   But on the
> Internet it would have to be monitored.  I think
> I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7.  (I might not
> remember correctly, but a lot)   It wouldn't
> be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> *"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
>
> *  exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
>
> *  to contact us!"*
>
>
> *Terry W. Himes *
>
> *JPL** Jet Propulsion Laboratory*
>
> *InSight Sequence Team Lead*
>
> *Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
>
> Phone: (818) 393-6261
>
> Cell:     (818) 653-8213
>
> Fax:     (818) 393-3147
>
> [25]*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <[26]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>*
>
>  Regional indicator for USA
>
> From: DeTomaso <[27]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA <
> [28]detomaso at poca.com>
> Reply-To: Mike Drew <[29]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
> Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
> To: Rob Dumoulin <[30]rob at dumoulins.net>
> Cc: Ken Green <[31]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[32]jderyke at aol.com" <[33]jderyke at a
ol.com>,
> "[34]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[35]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA <[36]detomaso@
poca.com
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
> windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
> probably replicate that though?
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <[37]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
>
>    That was my confusion last night with the replies.
>    Rob DuMoulin
>    904.476.8744
>    [1][38]rob at dumoulins.net
>    [2]www.kbsi.co
>    [3][39]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
>    On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4][40]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
>    wrote:
>    I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
>    glass with an adhesive between them?A
>    That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
>    filled gap between theA panes.
>    Ken
>    A
>      __________________________________________________________________
>    From: Will Kooiman <[5][41]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
>    To: [6][42]jderyke at aol.com; [7][43]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
>    [8][44]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9][45]rob at dumoulins.net; [10][46]DeTomaso at poca
.com
>    Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    A  My glass had the same thickness as the original.A  Maybe it isn't
>    double
>    A  pane.A  I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
>    A  need double pane safety glass."
>    A  The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
>    A  perfect.A  I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A  That's why I
>    had to
>    A  buy new glass in the first place.
>    A  Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A  The shop is
>    Woodlands
>    A  Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
>    A  From: <[1][11][47]jderyke at aol.com>
>    A  Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
>    A  To: <[2][12][48]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
>    A  <[3][13][49]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4][14][50]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
>    A  <[5][15][51]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16][52]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>    A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    A  Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
>    problems.
>    A  And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
>    A  cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
>    A  big deal.
>    Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
>    A  -----Original Message-----
>    A  From: Mike Thomas <[7][17][53]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
>    A  To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18][54]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
>    A  <[9][19][55]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][20][56]jderyke at aol.com>;
 rob
>    A  <[11][21][57]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12][22][58]DeTomaso at poca.com
>
>    A  Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
>    A  Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
>    -----Original
>    Message-----
>    From: DeTomaso [[13][59]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
> <[23][60]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf Of
>    Will Kooiman
>    Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
>    To: mark skwarek
>    <[14][24][61]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25][62]jderyke at aol.com;
>    [16][26][63]rob at dumoulins.net;
>    [17][27][64]DeTomaso at poca.com
>    Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>    I
>    had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A  Mine was
>    cracked, so
>    they could use it as a template.
>    It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
>    correctly.
>    On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
>    DeTomaso"
>    <[18][28][65]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
>    [19][29][66]detomaso at poca.com>
>    wrote:
>
> A  Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
>
>    separate
>
> A  the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
>    Mark
>
> A  On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
>    <[20][30][67]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>
> A  A  FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
>
>    Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
>
> A  A  WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
>
>    sound deadening; I
>
> A  A  have one.A  Normally the rear window never gives
>
>    trouble except during
>
> A  A  an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
>
>    place & contacts
>
> A  the
> A  A  window during the pull.A  One owner found that
>
>    Weber velocity stacks
>
> A  A  also can break the glass during engine removals.
>
>    The window is sort
>
> A  of
> A  A  part of the rear firewall, but in engine
>
>    fires, the glass invariably
>
> A  A  shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
>
>    not degrade the "safety"
>
> A  A  aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
>
>    so the rear legs of
>
> A  the
> A  A  factory roll cage can extend though to the
>
>    rear fenders. One year at
>
> A  A  Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
>
>    like this, and the
>
> A  SCTA
> A  A  Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
>
>    window and substitute a
>
> A  thin
> A  A  galvanized steel sheet!
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>
> A  A  From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31][68]rob at dumoulins.net>
>
>    To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32][69]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>
> A  A  Sent: Thu, Sep
>
>    10, 2015 12:20 pm
>
> A  A  Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> A  Is there anything
>
>    special about the rear glass?AA  It being flat makes
>
> A  A  me
> A  think that I
>
>    would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
>
> A  A  just for
> A  a
>
>    Pantera.
>
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 131. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
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 135. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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 170. http://www.kbsi.co/
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