[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Himes, Terry (397C)
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Sep 14 15:24:42 EDT 2015
Well, I certainly don't want to duplicate any other knowledge base. For sure.
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Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:25 AM
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Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I think Terry is looking for the Wikipedia to share our vast knowledge of the history of DeTomaso / Pantera with the general public and us too. I feel it is important to record this information before it is lost. We have many people who have been to the plants, talked to everyone, photos, ect. What did we loose when Gary Hall passed on???
We have many resources (www.panteraplace.com) for more of the nutz and boltz stuff.
Larry (loves history) - Cleveland
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that and no one uses it......
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
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To: terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
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Terry,
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior, exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far) and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed. I certainly would have been able to make better decisions along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
Rob DuMoulin
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On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge. I was
thinking, since our Pantera's are going
to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for Pantera's. The
MediaWiki it's is built on is free. I set one
up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
about spaceflight. Hmmmm? Internally we
don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated. But on the
Internet it would have to be monitored. I think
I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7. (I might not
remember correctly, but a lot) It wouldn't
be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
Thoughts?
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
probably replicate that though?
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>> wrote:
That was my confusion last night with the replies.
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com>>
wrote:
I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
glass with an adhesive between them?A
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
filled gap between theA panes.
Ken
A
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it isn't
double
A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
A need double pane safety glass."
A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why I
had to
A buy new glass in the first place.
A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
Woodlands
A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
A From: <[1][11]jderyke at aol.com<mailto:jderyke at aol.com>>
A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
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A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
problems.
A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
A big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][28]detomaso-bounces at poca.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of
[19][29]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>>
wrote:
A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
Mark
A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
<[20][30]detomaso at poca.com<mailto:detomaso at poca.com>> wrote:
A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
A the
A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
A of
A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
A the
A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
A SCTA
A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
A thin
A A galvanized steel sheet!
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A A From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31]rob at dumoulins.net<mailto:rob at dumoulins.net>>
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A A Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Is there anything
special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
A A me
A think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
A A just for
A a
Pantera.
A A RobA
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Well, I certainly don't want to duplicate any other knowledge base.
For sure.
"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life
exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried
to contact us!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
InSight Sequence Team Lead
Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[1]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
From: Larry - Ohio Time <[2]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com> on behalf of Larry
- Ohio Time <[3]Larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:25 AM
To: 'Julian Kift' <[4]julian_kift at hotmail.com>, 'Rob Dumoulin'
<[5]rob at dumoulins.net>, Terry Himes <[6]Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "[7]'MikeLDrew at aol.com'" <[8]mikeldrew at aol.com>, 'Ken Green'
<[9]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, 'Jack Deryke' <[10]jderyke at aol.com>,
"[11]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[12]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA
<[13]detomaso at poca.com>
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I think Terry is looking for the Wikipedia to share our vast knowledge
of the history of DeTomaso / Pantera with the general public and us
too. I feel it is important to record this information before it is
lost. We have many people who have been to the plants, talked to
everyone, photos, ect. What did we loose when Gary Hall passed on???
We have many resources (www.panteraplace.com) for more of the nutz and
boltz stuff.
Larry (loves history) - Cleveland
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[14]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Julian Kift
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Rob Dumoulin; Himes, Terry 397C
Cc: [15]MikeLDrew at aol.com; Ken Green; Jack Deryke;
[16]mbefthomas at comcast.net; De Tomaso List
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Good idea, what you suggest is like a Pantera Owners website with a
discussion forum where all that can be located, oh wait we have that
and no one uses it......
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:48:52 -0400
From: [17]rob at dumoulins.net
To: [18]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
CC: [19]MikeLDrew at aol.com; [20]kenn_green at yahoo.com;
[21]jderyke at aol.com; [22]mbefthomas at comcast.net; [23]DeTomaso at poca.com
Terry,
I agree that a wiki approach for the Pantera would be great. Are you
suggesting adding topics to the global wikipedia are creating a private
wiki site?
Imagine if each of us could put in particular mods with part numbers
and a
brief description of function/fit and the site was organized by system
(cooling, suspension, glass, transmission, brakes, A/C, interior,
exterior,
electrical, etc.) and part (brake rotor, caliper, brake lines, master
cylinder, brake fluid).
I often wondered what all my options are for rebuilding a certain
component
of my car (and I am close to having addressed every one of them so far)
and
probably could have saved some time and money if such a knowledge base
existed. I certainly would have been able to make better decisions
along
the way, at least when I did not pose a question to the group here..
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[24]rob at dumoulins.net
www.kbsi.co
[25]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Himes, Terry (397C) <
[26]terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
Ya kow.. you guys are a encyclopedia of Pantera tribal knowledge. I
was
thinking, since our Pantera's are going
to be around for a long time we should start WikiPedia for
Pantera's. The
MediaWiki it's is built on is free. I set one
up for JPL and we use it to capture the same kind of tribal knowledge
about spaceflight. Hmmmm? Internally we
don't need it monitored and everyone is authenticated. But on the
Internet it would have to be monitored. I think
I head that Wikipedia gets 7000 updates every hour, 24/7. (I might not
remember correctly, but a lot) It wouldn't
be open to the public, but probably should use the POCA login. ?
Thoughts?
*"Sometimes I think the surest signs that intelligent life *
* exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried*
* to contact us!"*
*Terry W. Himes *
*JPL** Jet Propulsion Laboratory*
*InSight Sequence Team Lead*
*Rosetta/MEX Sequence Team Lead*
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[27]*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov <[28]thimes at jpl.nasa.gov>*
From: DeTomaso <[29]detomaso-bounces at poca.com> on behalf of POCA <
[30]detomaso at poca.com>
Reply-To: Mike Drew <[31]MikeLDrew at aol.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:26 AM
To: Rob Dumoulin <[32]rob at dumoulins.net>
Cc: Ken Green <[33]kenn_green at yahoo.com>, "[34]jderyke at aol.com"
<[35]jderyke at aol.com>,
"[36]mbefthomas at comcast.net" <[37]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, POCA
<[38]detomaso at poca.com
>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I'm glad jack reminded us. It's Ron Wade who sells double rear
windows--presumably two pieces of safety glass. Your glass shop can
probably replicate that though?
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2015, at 9:39, Rob Dumoulin <[39]rob at dumoulins.net> wrote:
That was my confusion last night with the replies.
Rob DuMoulin
904.476.8744
[1][40]rob at dumoulins.net
[2]www.kbsi.co
[3][41]http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green
<[4][42]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of
safety
glass with an adhesive between them?A
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a
gas
filled gap between theA panes.
Ken
A
_________________________________________________________________
_
From: Will Kooiman <[5][43]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: [6][44]jderyke at aol.com; [7][45]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
[8][46]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9][47]rob at dumoulins.net;
[10][48]DeTomaso at poca.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it
isn't
double
A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh,
you
A need double pane safety glass."
A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why
I
had to
A buy new glass in the first place.
A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
Woodlands
A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
A From: <[1][11][49]jderyke at aol.com>
A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
A To: <[2][12][50]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
A <[3][13][51]will.kooiman at gmail.com>,
<[4][14][52]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
A <[5][15][53]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16][54]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
problems.
A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into
the
A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so
its no
A big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
A -----Original Message-----
A From: Mike Thomas <[7][17][55]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
A To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18][56]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark
skwarek'
A <[9][19][57]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke
<[10][20][58]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
A <[11][21][59]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso
<[12][22][60]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
-----Original
Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[13][61]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
<[23][62]detomaso-bounces at poca.com>] On Behalf Of
Will Kooiman
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: mark skwarek
<[14][24][63]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25][64]jderyke at aol.com;
[16][26][65]rob at dumoulins.net;
[17][27][66]DeTomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][28][67]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
[19][29][68]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
Mark
A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
<[20][30][69]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
A the
A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
A of
A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
A the
A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
A SCTA
A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
A thin
A A galvanized steel sheet!
-----Original Message-----
A A From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31][70]rob at dumoulins.net>
To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32][71]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A A Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Is there anything
special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
A A me
A think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
A A just for
A a
Pantera.
A A RobA
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2. [172]http://www.kbsi.co/
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6. [178]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[179]jderyke at aol.com>
7. [180]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[181]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
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9. [184]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[185]rob at dumoulins.net>
10. [186]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[187]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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15. [196]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[197]rob at dumoulins.net>
16. [198]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[199]DeTomaso at poca.com>
17. [200]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[201]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
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24. [214]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[215]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
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27. [220]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[221]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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40. [243]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[244]DeTomaso at poca.com>
41. [245]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[246]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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52. [262]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[263]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
53. [264]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[265]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
54. [266]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[267]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
55. [268]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[269]rob at dumoulins.net>
56. [270]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[271]DeTomaso at poca.com>
57. [272]mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net <[273]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
58. [274]mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com <[275]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
59. [276]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[277]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
60. [278]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[279]jderyke at aol.com>
61. [280]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[281]rob at dumoulins.net>
62. [282]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[283]DeTomaso at poca.com>
63. [284]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
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64. [286]mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com <[287]ehpantera at yahoo.com>
65. [288]mailto:jderyke at aol.com <[289]jderyke at aol.com>
66. [290]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[291]rob at dumoulins.net>
67. [292]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[293]DeTomaso at poca.com>
68. [294]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
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71. [300]mailto:rob at dumoulins.net <[301]rob at dumoulins.net>
72. [302]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[303]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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80. [315]mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com <[316]DeTomaso at poca.com>
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2. mailto:Larry at ohiotimecorp.com
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4. mailto:julian_kift at hotmail.com
5. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
6. mailto:Terry.Himes at jpl.nasa.gov
7. mailto:'MikeLDrew at aol.com
8. mailto:mikeldrew at aol.com
9. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
10. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
11. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
12. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
13. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
14. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
15. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
16. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
17. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
18. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
19. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
20. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
21. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
22. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
23. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
24. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
25. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
26. mailto:terry.himes at jpl.nasa.gov
27. mailto:*thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
28. mailto:thimes at jpl.nasa.gov
29. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
30. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
31. mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com
32. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
33. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
34. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
35. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
36. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
37. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
38. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
39. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
40. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
41. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
42. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
43. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
44. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
45. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
46. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
47. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
48. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
49. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
50. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
51. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
52. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
53. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
54. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
55. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
56. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
57. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
58. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
59. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
60. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
61. mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
62. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
63. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
64. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
65. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
66. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
67. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
68. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
69. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
70. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
71. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
72. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
73. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
74. mailto:[5][35]DeTomaso at poca.com
75. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
76. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
77. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
78. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
79. mailto:[39]rob at dumoulins.net
80. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
81. mailto:[40]DeTomaso at poca.com
82. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
83. mailto:[41]DeTomaso at poca.com
84. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
85. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
86. mailto:[43]DeTomaso at poca.com
87. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
88. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
89. mailto:[45]DeTomaso at poca.com
90. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
91. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
92. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
93. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/deto
94. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
95. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
96. mailto:[51]jderyke at aol.com
97. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
98. mailto:[52]mbefthomas at comcast.net
99. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
100. mailto:[53]will.kooiman at gmail.com
101. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
102. mailto:[54]ehpantera at yahoo.com
103. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
104. mailto:[55]rob at dumoulins.net
105. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
106. mailto:[56]DeTomaso at poca.com
107. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
108. mailto:[57]mbefthomas at comcast.net
109. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
110. mailto:[58]will.kooiman at gmail.com
111. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
112. mailto:[59]ehpantera at yahoo.com
113. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
114. mailto:[60]jderyke at aol.com
115. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
116. mailto:[61]rob at dumoulins.net
117. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
118. mailto:[62]DeTomaso at poca.com
119. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
120. mailto:[63]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
121. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
122. mailto:[64]ehpantera at yahoo.com
123. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
124. mailto:[65]jderyke at aol.com
125. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
126. mailto:[66]rob at dumoulins.net
127. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
128. mailto:[67]DeTomaso at poca.com
129. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
130. mailto:[68]detomaso-bounces at poca.com
131. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
132. mailto:[69]detomaso at poca.com
133. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
134. mailto:[70]detomaso at poca.com
135. mailto:detomaso at poca.com
136. mailto:[71]rob at dumoulins.net
137. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
138. mailto:[72]DeTomaso at poca.com
139. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
140. mailto:[73]DeTomaso at poca.com
141. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
142. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
143. mailto:[5][75]DeTomaso at poca.com
144. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
145. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
146. mailto:[77]DeTomaso at poca.com
147. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
148. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
149. mailto:[79]rob at dumoulins.net
150. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
151. mailto:[80]DeTomaso at poca.com
152. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
153. mailto:[81]DeTomaso at poca.com
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155. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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158. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
159. mailto:[85]DeTomaso at poca.com
160. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
161. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
162. mailto:[87]DeTomaso at poca.com
163. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
164. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
165. mailto:[89]DeTomaso at poca.com
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167. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
168. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
169. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
170. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
171. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
172. http://www.kbsi.co/
173. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rob-dumoulin/0/1b6/58
174. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
175. mailto:kenn_green at yahoo.com
176. mailto:will.kooiman at gmail.com
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180. mailto:mbefthomas at comcast.net
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182. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
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184. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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208. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
209. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
210. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
211. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
212. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
213. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
214. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
215. mailto:ehpantera at yahoo.com
216. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
217. mailto:jderyke at aol.com
218. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
219. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
220. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
221. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
222. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
223. mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com
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228. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
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233. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
234. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
235. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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237. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
238. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
239. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
240. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
241. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
242. mailto:rob at dumoulins.net
243. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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245. mailto:DeTomaso at poca.com
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247. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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253. http://poca.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso_poca.com
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