[DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Rob Dumoulin
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Fri Sep 11 12:39:18 EDT 2015
That was my confusion last night with the replies.
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I thought standard automotive window glass was two layers of safety glass
> with an adhesive between them?
>
> That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
> filled gap between the panes.
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Will Kooiman <will.kooiman at gmail.com>
> *To:* jderyke at aol.com; mbefthomas at comcast.net; ehpantera at yahoo.com;
> rob at dumoulins.net; DeTomaso at poca.com
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> My glass had the same thickness as the original. Maybe it isn't double
> pane. I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
> need double pane safety glass."
>
> The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
> perfect. I broke it while I was reinstalling it. That's why I had to
> buy new glass in the first place.
>
> Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used. The shop is Woodlands
> Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
>
> From: <[1]jderyke at aol.com>
> Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
> To: <[2]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
> <[3]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
> <[5]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no problems.
> And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
> cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
> big deal.
>
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Thomas <[7]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
> <[9]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
> <[11]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
>
> -----Original
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> From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
> Will Kooiman
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
> To: mark skwarek
> <[14]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15]jderyke at aol.com;
> [16]rob at dumoulins.net;
> [17]DeTomaso at poca.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>
> I
> had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop. Mine was
> cracked, so
> they could use it as a template.
>
> It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
> correctly.
>
> On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
> DeTomaso"
> <[18]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of [19]detomaso at poca.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
> separate
> > the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
> >
> Mark
> > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
> >
> <[20]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
> > FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
> Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
> > WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
> sound deadening; I
> > have one. Normally the rear window never gives
> trouble except during
> > an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
> place & contacts
> > the
> > window during the pull. One owner found that
> Weber velocity stacks
> > also can break the glass during engine removals.
> The window is sort
> > of
> > part of the rear firewall, but in engine
> fires, the glass invariably
> > shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
> not degrade the "safety"
> > aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
> so the rear legs of
> > the
> > factory roll cage can extend though to the
> rear fenders. One year at
> > Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
> like this, and the
> > SCTA
> > Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
> window and substitute a
> > thin
> > galvanized steel sheet!
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21]rob at dumoulins.net>
> >
> To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22]DeTomaso at poca.com>
> > Sent: Thu, Sep
> 10, 2015 12:20 pm
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
> > Is there anything
> special about the rear glass?A It being flat makes
> > me
> > think that I
> would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
> > just for
> > a
> Pantera.
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That was my confusion last night with the replies.
Rob DuMoulin
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Ken Green <[4]kenn_green at yahoo.com>
wrote:
I thought standard automotive window glass wasA two layers of safety
glass with an adhesive between them?A
That is not the same as double pane residential glass that have a gas
filled gap between theA panes.
Ken
A
__________________________________________________________________
From: Will Kooiman <[5]will.kooiman at gmail.com>
To: [6]jderyke at aol.com; [7]mbefthomas at comcast.net;
[8]ehpantera at yahoo.com; [9]rob at dumoulins.net; [10]DeTomaso at poca.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A My glass had the same thickness as the original.A Maybe it isn't
double
A pane.A I told the glass shop what I needed, and they said, "Oh, you
A need double pane safety glass."
A The bummer was that I polished the original glass, and it looked
A perfect.A I broke it while I was reinstalling it.A That's why I
had to
A buy new glass in the first place.
A Kirby - I may have used the same guy you used.A The shop is
Woodlands
A Car Care, on Budde Rd, just south of Sawdust.
A From: <[1][11]jderyke at aol.com>
A Date: Friday, September 11, 2015 at 2:56 AM
A To: <[2][12]mbefthomas at comcast.net>, Will Kooiman
A <[3][13]will.kooiman at gmail.com>, <[4][14]ehpantera at yahoo.com>,
A <[5][15]rob at dumoulins.net>, <[6][16]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
A Short answer: yes. I used my OEM 1972 rubber gasket with no
problems.
A And you get to choose whether the secondary pane protrudes into the
A cockpit or into the engine bay. The distance is about 1/4" so its no
A big deal.
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
A -----Original Message-----
A From: Mike Thomas <[7][17]mbefthomas at comcast.net>
A To: 'Will Kooiman' <[8][18]will.kooiman at gmail.com>; 'mark skwarek'
A <[9][19]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; jderyke <[10][20]jderyke at aol.com>; rob
A <[11][21]rob at dumoulins.net>; DeTomaso <[12][22]DeTomaso at poca.com>
A Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm
A Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
Does the double pane fit in the original rubber?
-----Original
Message-----
From: DeTomaso [[13]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces at poca.com] On Behalf Of
Will Kooiman
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 3:59 PM
To: mark skwarek
<[14][24]ehpantera at yahoo.com>; [15][25]jderyke at aol.com;
[16][26]rob at dumoulins.net;
[17][27]DeTomaso at poca.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
I
had double pane safety glass made at a local glass shop.A Mine was
cracked, so
they could use it as a template.
It was cheap too - under $100, if I recall
correctly.
On 9/10/15, 5:39 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of mark skwarek via
DeTomaso"
<[18][28]detomaso-bounces at poca.com on behalf of
[19][29]detomaso at poca.com>
wrote:
>A Some racing organizations require a non-combustible material
separate
>A the engine compartment from the passenger compartment.
>
Mark
>A On Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:00 PM, Jack DeRyke via DeTomaso
>
<[20][30]detomaso at poca.com> wrote:
>A A FWIW, Larry Stock of PPC-Reno sells an exact
Lexan repro. Ron Wade in
>A A WA made a few double-pane rear windows for extra
sound deadening; I
>A A have one.A Normally the rear window never gives
trouble except during
>A A an engine pull when the distributor cap is left in
place & contacts
>A the
>A A window during the pull.A One owner found that
Weber velocity stacks
>A A also can break the glass during engine removals.
The window is sort
>A of
>A A part of the rear firewall, but in engine
fires, the glass invariably
>A A shatters early, so using Lexan likely does
not degrade the "safety"
>A A aspect much. Most 'GR-4s' use plexiglas windows
so the rear legs of
>A the
>A A factory roll cage can extend though to the
rear fenders. One year at
>A A Bonneville, a Swedish Pantera showed up to run
like this, and the
>A SCTA
>A A Tech Inspectors made them remove the Lexan
window and substitute a
>A thin
>A A galvanized steel sheet!
>
-----Original Message-----
>A A From: Rob Dumoulin <[1][21][31]rob at dumoulins.net>
>
To: Pantera - DeTomaso Mail List <[2][22][32]DeTomaso at poca.com>
>A A Sent: Thu, Sep
10, 2015 12:20 pm
>A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear Glass
>A Is there anything
special about the rear glass?AA It being flat makes
>A A me
>A think that I
would not have to go through a vendor and get one made
>A A just for
>A a
Pantera.
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